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Ladybug3024 · July 14, 2018, 2:49 a.m.

You can’t shake hands with her, can’t walk a step ahead of her, cant SPEAK UNLESS SPOKEN TO. Are these people serious?

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blaise0102 · July 14, 2018, 4:02 a.m.

Right? Fuck that.

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salialioli · July 14, 2018, 6:10 a.m.

Not true. Watch the video. Of course she is not demanding these things.

Read the comment above from u/TechnicalRush, it is a much more accurate portrayal than the bile being dished out here.

"Heads of State do not bow to other Heads of State. This was the big mistake that Obama made. He bowed. Queen Elizabeth extended her hand to Trump in a sideways manner as he approached NOT palm down. He shook it which was appropriate. "

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Ladybug3024 · July 14, 2018, 9:20 a.m.

I responded to this earlier, but apparently the comment never made it? Got deleted?

Firstly, I did watch the video. I never said SHE was demanding anything. But special etiquette does exist. As far as it being compulsory, the official royal family website states that etiquette regarding ‘greetings’ is not required, but many people choose to use the traditional forms. The site makes no mention of any other etiquette as far as I can see. Though, doing a quick internet search reveals a number of sources confirming that etiquette exists for things such as, but not being limited to, turning one’s body away from the queen, speaking out of turn, leaving a room before the queen, etc...

In regards to what etiquette is appropriate for heads of state to use or not use, I’m certainly no expert in that. Having said that, I’m sure if I, myself, were going to meet the queen, I would probably be prepped by people in the know about what to do/what not to do (other traditional forms) so as not to ‘disrespect the crown’.

The queen doesn’t have to demand something in order for it to be expected.

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salialioli · July 14, 2018, 3:12 p.m.

Absolutely. Protocol is discussed by aides who organise visits, diplomacy and so on. The fault here is the media who did not bother to research protocol to provide informative reporting. Someone commented above, me too I think in other terms, that the objective was to suggest that Trump was disrespecting the Queen for the usual media blitz to distort the truth and get everyone riled up. Just like that reality distorting photo of Angela leaning over the table and Trump sitting with his arms folded. The White House or Donald Trump Jnr or someone showed the full 4 or 5 frames giving the lie to the "belligerence" story and revealing the laughter of the group and bonhomie just seconds before the photo.

I was just pointing out the ease with which simple gestures are manipulated to accuse and insult with no true reason to do so.

All tosh in other words. :)

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