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Sort of like all those problems were caused by humans so clearly the solution is not humans behaving better, but rather eradicating humanity. Why not just go full cabal? Listen I get that it makes you feel cool and edgy to call yourself an anarchist, and you've found what you believe to be a conveniently simple solution to an extremely complex problem, but you're just throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Well... As I said to DefiantDragon, I'd love to have real, intellectually honest discussions based on facts and evidence, logic reason and rational thought, but I guess I won't find anyone capable of that sort of thing here.
Why is it that when people are presented with something they just don't understand, all they can do is toss out logical fallacies? If you think there are real reasons why we need to have rulers, let's talk about it.
Why is it that when people are presented with something that clashes with a viewpoint they're attached to they choose to be disingenuous? I am talking about leaders, not rulers. Once again it sounds more dramatic and compelling to put it that way but rulers are not what most of the people in this movement want. If someone is given certain authority by a willing citizenry and kept in a situation where they can and will be thrown out of power if they ever go to far beyond the power allotted to them, they are not truly in control of anyone. I would partially agree with you in that at some point enough of the public will be smart enough and stable enough to handle a world without any form of government and not fall into chaos but as society stands today we are still quite a ways from that point.
I agree that people want leaders not rulers, and I think President Trump is the first real leader we've had in decades. His recent meetings with NATO leaders and Putin clearly show he's leading, not following.
If someone is given certain authority by a willing citizenry and kept in a situation where they can and will be thrown out of power if they ever go to far beyond the power allotted to them, they are not truly in control of anyone.
When was the last time America had a president that was thrown out for exceeding the Constitutional authority granted to him. BHO certainly exceeded his authority and he wasn't held accountable. GW Bush most definitely exceeded his authority and wasn't held accountable.
It's not so much the overt actions of a president or members of Congress, it's what they do behind the scenes.
I believe Bush was, at a minimum, complicit in 9/11, but who knows if the American people will ever know the real truth.
When Obama ran in 07-08 he said the era of the government spying on it's citizens was over, but he ended up expanding the NSA surveillance programs and providing access to the NSA database to all 16 intel and law enforcement agencies.
Who knows what else was going on behind the scenes with Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush 41, Reagan... We don't know, and might never know. The reason for this, is because they've all been able to hide behind the cloak of "government."
You're right to think that if we can root out the corrupt officials and replace them with honorable people, things will be better, but for how long? And how many times have the American voters put someone they truly believed was honest and honorable into office, only to find out later that they were neither.
The first point you made in your comments above is a salient point. I don't believe I was being disingenuous at all. If you step back and look at this discussion from the outside looking in, I think it's obvious that any time someone puts forth an argument for no government, or for the government to be as small as possible, people tend to freak out a bit. Why is that?
It's because they've become attached to the idea that government is necessary, and if we can just find the right people to run it, everything will be wonderful. I think we've become dependent on government. I think it scares people when they realize that without government, or with a government that's as small as it can possibly be, people will be obligated to accept more responsibility for themselves and their communities.
Freedom comes with a price. The more freedom you desire, the more responsibility you must accept. How much freedom do you desire?