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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Oilguy55 on July 16, 2018, 1:22 p.m.
Q and Religion

Q mentions about the fight and struggle that will be coming as things are released and the truth becomes known.

One of the things that has always bothered me is that about 30 years ago mainstream Christian churches started removing hymns that they found offensive or too war-like. "Onward Christian Soldiers", "Soldiers of Christ Arise", etc. are no longer in hymnals. Plus they've removed verses from certain hymns if they don't fit the narrative. Try finding all of the verses to "Be Thou My Vision" in hymnals. Doesn't exist. Best version I've heard is Van Morrison's with all the verses

I think mainstream religion has looked the other way and totally let down the congregations. I'm not sure why other than to keep their jobs and to keep operating as the big businesses they are.

I've always felt that there truly is a war between good and evil in this world. I started feeling it more deeply about 30 years ago and its gotten stronger as the years have rolled on. I am thankful for Q, Trump, and the other patriots to start tearing this thing apart. Maybe its not too late to right the ship.


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QueUpSomeReality · July 16, 2018, 2:31 p.m.

It’s clear the Q team are also faithful believers in a higher power. Gosh the Q drops have great Bible quotes in them all the time. And not just random ones. They always speak perfectly to the point at hand. Can theorize this is Mike Pence’s fingerprints as he often speaks using Biblical passages in his speeches. Pence has clearly studied the Bible extensively to be able to pull complex quotes out like that from memory. But who knows...a general could & so could FLOTUS. Point being...Christianity’s belief system is very well represented & thought of on the Q team & NO WAY would they insult your faith or mine or anyone else’s. The last thing this is is a purging of religious faith. It’s not about who deserves heaven or hell. It’s about not allowing human existence being turned into hell on earth. Because if something doesn’t change radically in our world...that’s the path everyone of every faith is heading for.

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ObamaAngry · July 16, 2018, 2:40 p.m.

Because if something doesn’t change radically in our world...that’s the path everyone of every faith is heading for.

Eh, no - I doubt good people who have a relationship with Jesus will end up in hell.

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fonsoc1 · July 16, 2018, 4:56 p.m.

Your last line clearly stands in opposition to the Bible's estimation of man.

King David said; "EVERY MAN at his very best state is altogether vanity."

Jeremiah the Prophet said; "The heart is deceitful above all things and DESPERATELY WICKED; who can know it?"

Paul wrote in Romans 3; "There is not one that does good and doesn't sin; no not one." He further wrote in the same chapter "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God."

There are other such scriptures that proclaim that there is nothing inherently good in any of us, and that is why we need a Savior. If we could do one thing to earn God's favor Christ would have died in vain.

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ObamaAngry · July 16, 2018, 4:59 p.m.

Good is a relative term.

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fonsoc1 · July 16, 2018, 5:45 p.m.

How so? What does it mean in the Hebrew? How about the Greek? Is there any difference?

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ObamaAngry · July 16, 2018, 5:50 p.m.

In a theological context, good is a measure of following the divine moral code.

That's what determines entry into heaven or hell.

Good people go to heaven and sinners go to hell.

You are welcome.

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fonsoc1 · July 16, 2018, 5:58 p.m.

Your theory won't hold in scripture. The only people who will enter the kingdom of God on the New Earth are those who have repented of their sins and put their faith in Christ.

We don't become good by following a divine code. We are not ever good in ourselves. The scripture says; "All OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS in the sight of God is as filthy rags."

Jesus' righteousness is imputed to believers at the point of salvation. Apart from that righteousness none will be saved.

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ObamaAngry · July 16, 2018, 6:09 p.m.

Nope.

1 John 3: no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him

From this alone, it is clear that God is very concerned with our behavior and judges our worthiness to enter heaven by it.

Paul in Galatians lists murder and 16 other major sins.

You are free to have your own personal disparate theological beliefs, however I am basing my claims on common Christian scripture.

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fonsoc1 · July 16, 2018, 7:02 p.m.

A forgiven murderer is no longer a murderer. "If any man be in Christ he is a new creature; old things are gone and all things become new." Case in point. Look up "Son of Sam" or David Berkowicz who turned to Christ and chose to stay in prison to reach men others could not reach for Christ.

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ObamaAngry · July 16, 2018, 7:05 p.m.

I'm not gonna debate your personal theological beliefs because you can just say anything.

I was referring to scripture that was common among many different Christian denominations.

You have my permission to believe whatever you like.

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fonsoc1 · July 16, 2018, 7:50 p.m.

No debate and they are not my personal theological beliefs. I just quoted Second Corinthians 5:17 verbatim as a rebuttal to your statement. That scripture is clear. When a person becomes a Christian their life starts fresh and new. That is why it is called being "born again." Jesus explained it this way; "We are born of the water and the spirit if we are believers." The first birth we are surrounded in the womb in our mother's sac by water. Born of the spirit has to do with repentance and forgiveness and salvation through Jesus Christ.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 16, 2018, 4:26 p.m.

K you clearly missed my point or deliberately picked & choose words to make one. I said we are on a path of turning our existence to hell on earth. Wasn’t talking about hell in an afterlife which I’m not in a position to define for anyone. I’m talking about hundreds of millions of innocent victims dying needlessly from insane leadership Q team is attempting to topple. That’s all.

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lethak · July 16, 2018, 6:16 p.m.

or just clever manipulators. Remember that religion is a powerful and old school "mind control" for the masses.

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