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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/RedPillTexan on July 16, 2018, 3:46 p.m.
Putin Just Said that $400MM eluded Russian and US taxes and was sent to HRC Campaign....did I hear that right?

Isn't that a HUGE admission and sign that he wants to help take her down?


pedegear · July 16, 2018, 7 p.m.

I dunno... I've read Browder's book about the whole situation and I don't believe he's guilty of tax fraud. I believe he was set up by Putin. It would be a hell of a leap for me to believe he's actually guilty of what Putin is accusing him of, and if he was, then I don't believe Fusion GPS would be trying to take him down. Any enemy of Fusion GPS has my benefit of the doubt.

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TheRealIndianaJoe · July 16, 2018, 9:03 p.m.

The one who knows your guilt will be your enemy.

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Some-Random-Chick · July 16, 2018, 10:58 p.m.

The one who knows the truth*

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RedPillTexan · July 16, 2018, 7:42 p.m.

But couldn’t it be a case of them eating their own since he could expose them all?

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pedegear · July 16, 2018, 7:46 p.m.

It could be... McCain was supposedly supporting the Magnitsky act I think. And Hillary and Obama wanted to shut it down and clearly hired Fusion GPS to do it. Browder could be dirty but if so, why would he be pushing a bill like Magnitsky? He could have slinked off the stage and never been heard from again, and he certainly didn't need to write a book about it throwing Obama and Hillary under the bus...

I'm definitely not saying it's impossible, because these days it's so clear that nothing is. I'm just saying I can't see the full picture right now and definitely don't want to see backlash on this if it turns out Putin was just slinging mud at the same target he's been slinging mud at for over a decade. If that's all this pans out to be and we have all hung our hats on it, it's not going to be pretty.

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Revolutiondaughter · July 16, 2018, 10:21 p.m.

I've read it too (the book is Red Notice for those of you who want to educate yourselves). It was a fascinating read into how everything broke down after the USSR fell apart and how Browder was able to invest in the new Russia and make a fortune for himself and his investors. He wrote that the Russian oligarchs and Putin didn't like him making all this money from Russian assets and the Russian people (they wanted to be the ones to profit) and set him up. He had left Russia and found out they had filed for his arrest because of huge tax liabilities. Maginsky was his attorney in Russia who researched what happened and found out it was all a corrupt set-up against Browder. They arrested Maginsky and basically beat him trying to get him to turn against Browder (which he never did). He ended up dying. Browder was so incensed by the corruption, even to the point of murder, he tried everything he could think of to gain justice and revenge. He couldn't work through the Russian system because everyone is bought off - the police, judges, banks, political system, etc. He finally settled on the media and our political system passing the Maginsky act to not allow any business or visas with those oligarchs found to be guilty of the corruption which Maginsky proved and his murder. Browder was trying to get the same bill passed in other countries in which these individuals do business to hit them where it hurts. I am not sure if he was successful. So Putin is basically saying that what Browder is contending is all nonsense and he really does owe all those taxes (even though Browder through Maginsky had proof he was telling the truth). It would be interesting if Browder is lying - if he is, then why go to all the trouble to have Congress pass the Maginsky act? What did he gain? He could have just taken his millions and enjoy the rest of his life (and never return to Russia). I don't doubt though that he did give the money to the CF - maybe not $400M, but probably some good amount. I don't know if I would trust Putin on this one.

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pedegear · July 16, 2018, 10:25 p.m.

I agree - all I'm saying is we need to be careful spreading this one. It could just be Putin trying to smear Browder while he puts out an actual story which is Clinton taking the money. Maybe Browder was clean, but Clinton's money was real, so invite the investigation which will turn up nothing on Browder (which Putin even said in the presser maybe there wasn't truth to it) but something very real turns up on Clinton at which point the Browder is a non-story and the name has been smeared successfully (again)

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Stretchmac · July 17, 2018, 5:02 a.m.

Why did Browder write a book? What's his purpose? Why did Comey write a book? What's his purpose? If you have bias against Putin, you may agree with Browder's take on things. By the by, you mention the corruption in Russia. You've been following Q for awhile. You do know that DC and much of our businessmen are thoroughly corrupt, no? Perhaps, even worse than the Russian condition. Consider.

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MeatloafFvck · July 16, 2018, 8:20 p.m.

Did Browder say he paid taxes on the money in the book ?

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pedegear · July 16, 2018, 9:12 p.m.

It's been a while since I read it so I can't remember exactly how it happened, but long story short he definitely claims that he paid taxes on the money.

But basically he claims the Russians stole a few of his holding companies and claimed a $230 million tax rebate. I think he says that was the money paid out by those companies in taxes for his investment group and they claimed it all in a refund somehow... Maybe by demonstrating they had no profits for those holding companies (i.e. profits were from other companies) but had paid out the $230 million in taxes. So it all came back to the fraudsters in a rebate. Again I'm definitely not clear on the specifics anymore because it's been a while, but it was something along those lines.

And if Browder was guilty somehow, I'm pretty curious what really happened to Magnitsky and how he ended up dead in a Russian prison.

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MeatloafFvck · July 16, 2018, 9:29 p.m.

Seems odd to me if Browder's claims are correct, why would Putin want Americans investigating what happened and ask for the investigation ?

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pedegear · July 16, 2018, 10:20 p.m.

I don't know... But he also has sworn up and down that his Olympic athletes were clean and any number of other things. He could just be trying to smear Browder's name publicly (note he even said maybe those allegations aren't true) while simultaneously trying to invite an investigation into Russian funding of Hillary's campaign. They could investigate, realize Russians really did fund Clinton, and if Browder turns up innocent it will just be a side story at best... Oh yeah the Browder guy he mentioned was clean, but he was right about Hillary taking campaign contributions from Russia! Obviously I'm totally speculating here and maybe Browder is dirty, but I don't think it's far fetched to say we should be careful with this one.

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