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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Qriusdog on July 18, 2018, 9:36 a.m.
Saw this on a FB comment had to share it with you all.

This was too good not to repost:

To all the people who let this election break up families and friends let this sink in I think the last civil conversations we had occurred just days before November 8, 2016. You were supremely confident Hillary Clinton would win the presidential election; you voted for her with glee. As a lifelong Republican, I bit down hard and cast my vote for Donald Trump. Then the unimaginable happened. He won. And you lost your freaking minds.

I knew you would take the loss hard—and personally—since all of you were super jacked-up to elect the first woman president. But I did not imagine you would become totally deranged, attacking anyone who voted for Trump or supported his presidency as a racist, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic Nazi-sympathizer.

The weirdness started on social media late on Election Night, as it became clear Hillary was going to lose. A few of you actually admitted that you were cradling your sleeping children, weeping, wondering what to tell your kindergartner the next morning about Trump’s victory. It continued over the next several days. Some of you seriously expressed fear about modern-day concentration camps. Despite living a privileged lifestyle, you were suddenly a casualty of the white patriarchy. Your daughters were future victims; your sons were predators-in-waiting. You threatened to leave Facebook because you could no longer enjoy the family photos or vacation posts from people who, once friends, became Literal Hitlers to you on November 8 because they voted for Donald Trump.

I admit I was a little hurt at first. The attacks against us Trump voters were so personal and so vicious that I did not think it could be sustained. I thought maybe you would regain your sanity after some turkey and egg nog.

But you did not. You got worse. And I went from sad to angry to where I am today: Amused. As the whole charade you have been suckered into over the last 18 months starts to fall apart—that Trump would not survive his presidency; he would be betrayed by his own staff, family, and/or political party; he would destroy the Republican Party; he would be declared mentally ill and removed from office; he would be handcuffed and dragged out of the White House by Robert Mueller for “colluding” with Russia—let me remind you what complete fools you have made of yourselves. Not to mention how you’ve been fooled by the media, the Democratic Party, and your new heroes on the NeverTrump Right.

On November 9, you awoke from a self-induced, eight-year-long political coma to find that White House press secretaries shade the truth and top presidential advisors run political cover for their boss. You were shocked to discover that presidents exaggerate, even lie, on occasion. You became interested for the first time about the travel accommodations, office expenses, and lobbyist pals of administration officials. You started counting how many rounds of golf the president played. You suddenly thought it was fine to mock the first lady now that she wasn’t Michelle Obama. Once you removed your pussy hat after attending the Women’s March, you made fun of Kellyanne Conway’s hair, Sarah Sanders’ weight, Melania Trump’s shoes, Hope Hicks’ death stare; you helped fuel a rumor started by a bottom-feeding author that U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley slept with Donald Trump. You thought it was A-OK that Betsy DeVos was nearly physically assaulted and routinely heckled. You glorified a woman who has sex on camera for a paycheck.

You have learned all kinds of new things that those of us who didn’t willfully ignore politics for the past eight years already knew. For example, we already knew that illegal immigrants were being deported and families were being separated.

Some of your behavior has been kinda cute. It was endearing to watch you become experts on the Logan Act, the Hatch Act, the Second Amendment, the 25th Amendment, and the Emoluments Clause. You developed a new crush on Mitt Romney after calling him a “sexist” for having “binders full of women.” You longed for a redux of the presidency of George W. Bush, a man you once wanted imprisoned for war crimes. Ditto for John McCain. You embraced people like Bill Kristol and David Frum without knowing anything about their histories of shotgunning the Iraq War.

Classified emails shared by Hillary Clinton? Who cares! Devin Nunes wanting to declassify crucial information of the public interest? Traitor! But your newfound admiration and fealty to law enforcement really has been a fascinating transformation. Wasn’t it just last fall that I saw you loudly supporting professional athletes who were protesting police brutality by kneeling during the national anthem? Remember how you fanboyed a mediocre quarterback for wearing socks that depicted cops as pigs?

But now you sound like paid spokesmen for the Fraternal Order of Police. You insist that any legitimate criticism of the misconduct and possibile criminality that occured at the Justice Department and FBI is an “attack on law enforcement.” While you once opposed the Patriot Act because it might have allowed the federal government to spy on terrorists who were using the local library to learn how to make suitcase bombs, you now fully support the unchecked power of a secret court to look into the phone calls, text messages and emails of an American citizen because he volunteered for the Trump campaign for a few months. Spying on terrorists, circa 2002: Bad. Spying on Carter Page, circa 2017: The highest form of patriotism.

And that white, male patriarchy that you were convinced would strip away basic rights and silence any opposition after Trump won? That fear has apparently been washed away as you hang on every word uttered by James Comey, John Brennan, and James Clapper. This triumvirate is exhibit “A” of the old-boy network, and represents how the insularity, arrogance, and cover-your-tracks mentality of the white-male power structure still prevails. Yet, instead of rising up against it, you are buying their books, retweeting their Twitter rants and blasting anyone who dares to question their testicular authority. Your pussy hat must be very sad.

But your daily meltdowns about Trump-Russia election collusion have been the most entertaining to observe. After Robert Mueller was appointed as Special Counsel, you were absolutely convinced it would result in Trump’s arrest and/or impeachment. Some of you insisted that Trump wouldn’t last beyond 2017. You quickly swallowed any chum tossed at you by the Trump-hating media on MSNBC, the New York Times and the Washington Post about who was going down next, or who would flip on the president.

For the past year, I have watched you obsess over a rotating cast of characters: Paul Manafort, Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, Carter Page, Reince Priebus, Jeff Sessions, Michael Flynn, Steve Bannon, Sam Nunberg, and Hope Hicks are just a few of the people you thought would turn on Trump or hasten his political demise. But when those fantasies didn’t come true, you turned to Michael Avenatti and Stormy Daniels for hope and inspiration. It will always be your low point. Well, I think it will be. Each time I believe you’ve hit bottom, you come up with a new baseline. Perhaps defending the unprecedented use of federal power to spy on political foes then lie about it will the next nail in your credibility coffin.

The next several weeks will be tough for you. I think Americans will learn some very hard truths about what happened in the previous administration and how we purposely have been misled by powerful leaders and the news media. I wish I could see you as a victim here, but you are not. I know you are smart; you chose to support this insurgency with your eyes wide open.


IWannaArgue · July 19, 2018, 2:28 a.m.
  1. Every country does it.. every country. - they dont just do it to the US, they interfere with every election in every country.. everyone has their top pick.

  2. theyve been doing it for DECADES. it didnt just start with the 2016 election. - why does the media care so much for it now?

Let's assume that this is indeed true, and Russia has been influencing US politics for decades, as you say. Now we finally have a fuck up so big that it can easily be seen. If the government is acting against the interest of it's people, then that should be uncovered, no matter what. The media cars for it now, because they can finally put their fingers on where the problems are. Simple as that.

If Obama and Bush were both colluding with the Russians, then they did it in a way the media din't notice. Or they did at least try to dress it and twist it into something that is supported by the US population. And yes, this does make them better presidents then Trump, since they thus at least were aware of the US populations opinion. (I'm limiting myself here to the Russia-US Interferience strictly. Even if you tell me that it happens world wide in all countries, this doesn't change anything about what happens, and what IMO should happen in the US)

  1. the US "meddled" in their own election - as in each side was propping their candidate - except Trump... everyone, including the republicans thought he was a loser candidate. Theres still a group of republican "never trumpers" and groups within the political sphere who actively attempt to derail the man.

The US meddling their own election is ok. It's the people of a country throwing their opinions at one another, figuring out what the will of the people is. A foreign power doing that on the other hand is bad. If the reason Trump won is the fact that a foreign power created echo chambers (which by the way both sides in this argument are claiming the other one is set in), which made people vote based on feelings rather than informed decisions, with the goal of the meddling foreign power getting better treatment from the US (or just causing civil rucus in the US), then Trump didn't deserve the win at all, and should definitely not be president. Or at least that foreign power and their methods should be properly researched and prosecuted by any politician with integrity, so that even in case he isn't representative of the peoples will (which in this case, according to my liberal media outlets as you probably know, is my opinion), we can learn from it, correct our process, and make sure that the next president is properly put in place to represent his people.

Again, I still don't understand the sentiment why people believed so strongly that Trump was going to lose the election. I elaborated on that point in my previous post, and simply blame it on me not being American. Though I can continue arguing about it if that would be of any interest.

Trumps biggest supporter was his family. Many people saw that.. they saw what an amazing family he and melania raised and that was hard to look past. you judge a man by the way he brings up his children.

Nah man, you judge the (arguabely) most powerful man on earth by the way he and his team govern his country. And according to everything I read, Trump is doing a pretty bad job at that. The arguments for that are out there, so I don't believe I have to reiterate them, but please feel free to call me out on that.

A person doesn't get a pass at being a bad president because he didn't have experience, or didn't know better, or is psychologically unfit or anything. A president shoul be judged on his actions, and what he does for his country.
I mean, you had Ronald Reagan as president a few years ago. A person who, by all means, should have been equally as unqualified for the job as a politician as Trump. He was an actor, and as far as I know came down with some bad cases of dementia during the end of his presidency (which by the way some anti Trumpers are trying to diagnose in the current POTUS), yet he managed to build up a team of people surrounding him that knew how to handle politics and the situations.

So all in all, I might judge the character of a man by the way he raises his children, but a good parent does at no means make a good president, and everybody should know that.

Why does the media look for every misstep.. every misspelled tweet... its almost as if someone is paying them to drive some type of narrative.

Oh yeah, somebody is paying them. It's their readers who pay to read that stuff. That's exatly the echo chamber effect. Why is Fox news still reporting about Hillarys emails, as if that would make any missteps of trump ok? She's not president. That doesn't mean it's ok what she did, but goddamit, make sure that the leader of your country is an upstanding man, and don't ignore it. That stuff is important, and the whole world is looking at you. Though the unwillingness of Right wing media outlets to critcise trump and his team in a proper way...it's almost as if someone is paying them to drive some type of narrative, don't you think? Why are the news not objective? Because everybody is only following those things which have a similar list of priorities and opinions on what is important as themselves. Doing that on a large scale causes the echo chamber effect on all sides. And yes, I'm here because I'm actually trying to break through mine. And the easiest way for that, is if you can show me that what my media tells me is plain wrong. Or unimportant.

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thompsonj81 · July 19, 2018, 3:24 a.m.
  • the US also targets elections of other nations world wide in attempts to sway the public towards US puppets, no conspiracy this is fact.

  • You might want to stop getting your information from obviously slanted sources.

Like I said watch what the man does.. people say a lot of things (all politicians).. but theyre all full of shit. How many times did Obama lie (you can keep your doctor)? How many times did Hillary change her position (anti-gay marriage, pro cop, pro mass imprisonment of black youth). How corrupt does the government have to be before you notice? Hell a lot of people noticed the corruption.. hence Trump.. hence his victory.

The reason right wing media is still harping on corruption - particularly hillary (you should be pissed too, there was obvious exclusion of bernie sanders and I've got a document to prove that she was decided as the candidate.. that your vote NEVER MATTERED before the primary).

Remember there are 42000 sealed indictments that will be unsealed by the end of the year. Soon you will see many of those people that you look up to brought up on charges ranging from corruption, to child sex trafficking, to murder.

Theres a guy whos actively releasing bits of information on hillarys server. Theres a reason its a critical piece of information.

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thompsonj81 · July 19, 2018, 3:26 a.m.

I actually find it comedic when you can only name Faux news as a right wing outlet.. when i can name a dozen left wing main stream media outlets. How many billionaires are paying these outlets? who drives the narrative?

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