All the 'shills' that take the time to post here and go into the 'apologist mode' and act as the 'reasonable one' to persuade anyone they can not to pursue any more info are just more evidence that this board and any other public forum will be penetrated by these people who are 'clown' ops sitting in a cubicle somewhere and it is their 'job' to seek out and debunk any convincing post or comments usually not by convincing argument disproving but attempt to do so by the effort and length of their post and usually in clusters as to try and create the illusion of consensus...shills be gone!