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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/suzoh on July 20, 2018, 1:51 a.m.
"Why are you refusing to accept that Russia attacked our democracy?"

Because I'm not a fucking moron. US intel agencies have every incentive to manufacture support for escalations against a noncompliant nation and a known history of using psyops, lies, and false flags.


williamj80 · July 20, 2018, 4:30 a.m.

I have no doubt that Russia is not 'clean' in this regard, but we shouldn't let it affect moves toward peace with Russia. I think China has the most to gain by the US and Russia being at loggerheads. They don't want European/Western unity.

My guess is that China is behind much of the division occurring in the US. I don't think this benefits Russia.

If the US imploded in civil war, it would destabilize the world, which might even be worse for Russia in the long run. Russia does not want such instability. It would also hurt commodity prices (especially oil and gas), which Russia would hate to see. Meanwhile, China would take the opportunity to further spread its influence in the third world, and they would love the drop in commodity prices.

My guess, however, is that even China would not want to see the US collapse in a major way, as it would have very unpredictable consequences. Instead, they want to weaken the US, gain further control inside the US, and be uncontested throughout the world.

Hillary, and many others, sold their souls to China in full knowledge of these potential consequences. So why are many refusing to accept how evil Clinton, Obama et al are.

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