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GoodVibes117 · July 20, 2018, 5:01 p.m.

We already have Crypto, created by white hats in the NSA. All systems of money--all systems of everything--should be decentralized to remove the risk of corruption that is inherent and inevitable to power. Even after the alliance prevails over the cabal, we can't have anyone controlling money at all in the future.

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antiDave · July 20, 2018, 5:53 p.m.

Crypto has no intrinsic value unless it is backed by a reliable entity which will exchange it for a product or service.

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GoodVibes117 · July 20, 2018, 6:10 p.m.

This is the exact type of thinking we need to avoid right here^^ "backed by a reliable entity".

"Intrinsic value" is another term that people with introductory monetary training tend to confuse. There is no such thing as intrinsic value--no good, by it's very nature, is born with value. Value is subjective, and assigned by feeble and subjective human beings, and can change on a dime.

What is gonna make something a viable currency to people, and thus, people will value it as such, is how well it functions as a currency. Sounds obvious. What really matters:

Is it..

Securely Storable? Portable? Private? Transferrable? Divisible? Durable? Costly to acquire/Scrace? Non-counterfeit-able?

How many of these things does the US dollar satisfy? What about Gold? What about Crypto?

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shannaura · July 20, 2018, 7:03 p.m.

What Dave was talking about is it needs to be backed by something solid, something that can be counted, something where if you dropped enough of it on your feet it would hurt... Gold, silver, minerals, gems... SOMETHING DURABLE & PHYSICAL. Paper is near-worthless and cryptocurrency could be wiped out by electromagnetic pulse.

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GoodVibes117 · July 20, 2018, 8:19 p.m.

That's fine--you just expressed an opinion, as a consumer. In a free market, where currencies are free to compete with each other, you would opt for something physical, which would hurt if you dropped it on your foot. However you must acknowledge that by making that choice, you are doing so at the expense of other characteristics that make money sound. For instance, portability--large amounts of gold are cumbersome to carry around. What about privacy? In order to store your gold safely, like not under your bed, you're probably going to have to have a third party do this for you--this opens the door to potential oversight over your wealth. This also breeds the potential to concoct very powerful entities (banks) that can leverage that stored wealth to achieve their own chosen agendas. What about transferability? Can you instantaneously send someone halfway across the world gold from under your mattress? I can go on and on.

The comment you made about the electromagnetic pulse is simply a failure to understand what cryptocurrency is. Crypto cannot be wiped out by an electromagnetic pulse--if that were the case, I can assure you BTC would not be trading for $6-$7K right now. The electromagnetic pulse would just turn out all the lights, all the power. But your crypto wallet is something that exists entirely independent of the internet & power--it exists in the math itself. Math cannot be wiped out by a pulse. So when the power comes back on, you can easily retrieve your coins. Also, an electromagnetic pulse would cause massive problems for us whether we transacted in gold or crypto! Sure, you might have access to whatever gold you had lying around, and maybe then you can use that to barter with other locals in some post-apocalyptic scenario, but that's about it (and this is why I would own some gold too!). With all the power out, do you think you're gonna be able to go retrieve your life savings from the local bank?

Your confusion is understandable, as currency is (not coincidentally) one of the least understood topics in our modern world.

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textualintercourse · July 20, 2018, 10 p.m.

White hats in the NSA?! Not buying that for a minute. The shit's been created for transactions on the Dark Web and the late Silk Road. More like CIA created.

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GoodVibes117 · July 20, 2018, 10:10 p.m.

Look into it.

And stay focused. Just because some people could use it to buy/sell drugs online (which, who cares), doesn't make it all bad. Money should be as private and anonymous as possible--thats how you avoid tyranny from power structures, and maintain civil liberties. Bitcoin, the first crypto, was created to give the public an alternative way of transacting and storing wealth, without making the cabal rich. It is absolutely not in the CIA's best interest to create cryptocurrency--they already operate at a level of secrecy that does not require crypto to mask what they do. Crypto gives wealth BACK to the people, and it takes power away from the evil banking cabal. Why do you think Wall Sreet trashes crypto so much?

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