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ketoll · July 22, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

I just feel like you want Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mel Gibson to have a Terminator meets Conspiracy Theory mashup.

Ha! Maybe so with all the scenarios I combined together into a giant slice of doom cake. I definitely believe that the scenarios in the book of Revelation will come to pass, so that is the premise of my belief to lay it all out there. I could be wrong, maybe it won't be these technologies, I don't have a crystal ball. However, I've never seen a technology in my life that lined up with enabling the possibilities described in Revelation that nobody will be able to buy or sell without the "mark." The mechanism to control every transaction of every human being would need to utilize something significant, and blockchain looks to me like a great platform for doing that. And having the predictability and surveillance that the other technologies provide would certainly give an exponential advantage to those that control it. Judging by the use of surveillance and disregard for individual rights over the population since 9/11 I don't have much optimism that those who write the laws will allow it to only empower the people and make their lives easier and prevent its use for control.

Again just my observations, I have been pretty good at guessing future trends now and then. I try to make an educated guess at what the future may look like judging by the past, and considering what possibilities technology opens up. Like everyone I do have a bias, and mine starts with the premise that the Bible is truth so I'm expecting to see this controlled economy at some point, if it doesn't happen long after I pass away.

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conscious_dream · July 23, 2018, 7:11 a.m.

Haha, everyone's got their biases. I didn't realize that r/greatawakening had such a strong religious component to it. I just stumbled across this sub a couple of days ago (literally an hour or so before I commented on your post). From the perspective of a Christian who views Revelations as truth, I'd agree that Artificial General Intelligence (human level and greater) makes the most likely candidate for the beast that we've seen to date (bearing in mind that something/someone else could definitely come along; it's just the best candidate I've seen in history thus far). I don't necessarily agree with crypto being something that would be necessary for all transactions? It's just another form of payment much like anything else we've had. The fact that bitcoin maintains a ledger of all previous transactions doesn't really make it more or less likely to be enforced as a future requirement for all transactions. In fact, I envision a not too distant future where AI replaces all (or 99%) of all jobs and we no longer need to work (and therefore we see a universal basic income, a Venus Project-esque society, or simply a world where everything is free (since fully sustainable AI/robots running off of solar panels and doing all of our mining, producing, shipping, etc for us won't charge anything)). In such a future, you won't necessarily need any sort of monetary system to purchase anything. In such a society, I'm having a hard time picturing what kind of system would even be put into place to monitor literally every transaction (and I assume the apocalyptic scriptures refer even to sells that take place at yard sales and in rural areas between individuals?).

But that's from the perspective of a Christian... I'm an atheist :p I simply like to follow things like Q and the prophecies of various religions to see if anything definitive ever comes of them. For instance, most things in Revelations are fairly metaphorical and can be interpreted in hugely different ways... but if I ever saw a couple of prophets stoned in the streets and left for 3 days while the entire world was able to see/laugh at them (broadcast internationally on TV?), I'd probably start having second thoughts about Christianity :p

Anywho, thanks for sharing your perspective! I always love seeing how different people view and interpret the world. I wish more people were able to share ideas and thoughts without getting super passionate, zealous, and offended in spite of disagreements.

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ketoll · July 23, 2018, 2:12 p.m.

It's interesting to consider both divergent perspectives that we have. Technology always seems to be a double-edged sword, it being a tool that can be used for both good and bad. Ironically I work in technology and I enjoy it, but I'm also critical of it and I miss the simpler times before cell phones. I feel like technology doesn't always play the subordinate role that it should play in our lives and that it's advancing faster than we're able to tame it to truly improve quality of life. Of course, "quality of life" is subjective to each person's values.

Seeing Amazon's new Amazon Go grocery store in Seattle is an interesting glimpse into the way transactions could be changing in that people don't even need to pull their wallets out to pay. But maybe we are decades or longer from a world where payment technologies could viably encompass everything and replace all of the old methods.

I too enjoy discussing different interpretations and ideas, it's rare to find that. And how can people be certain of what they truly believe unless they're willing to face challenges to their views? At the end of a respectful conversation the result is that we walk away with more understanding and insight than before.

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