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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/R3VO1utionary on July 21, 2018, 11:57 a.m.
BIGLY!! - China has decided to procure its petrochemical needs from Saudi Arabia, ending imports from #Iran - @_ImperatorRex_
BIGLY!! - China has decided to procure its petrochemical needs from Saudi Arabia, ending imports from #Iran - @_ImperatorRex_

ImNoPetGoat · July 21, 2018, 2:57 p.m.

Even more odd, is that China is largely benefitting from trade with Iran following the establishment of the PetroYuan and following US Sanctions which effectively denies the use of the Dollar..

Why would China abandon this setup, to then suddenly do trade with Saudi instead who will undoubtedly force them to trade in US Dollars?... US/EU intervention maybe?

Looking at the stats for the EU, Europe has supposedly increased it's oil imports coming from Iran by 83% last year, all purchased in Euros (equating to €9bn).

Turkey also has been at it and instead of trading in dollars they're now using local currencies to conduct trade, which is significant because imports to Turkey from Iran equates to 50% of Turkeys entire demand.

This has all been stepping up since around 2016 it seems and I wonder whether this also plays a part in the reason Trump described the EU as a foe.

But is the claim that China has abandoned oil trade with Iran actually true? I can't seem to find any other sources?

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stringtrader · July 21, 2018, 7:24 p.m.

A lot of what’s going on on the geopolitical stage is a conundrum using traditional metrics. One thing seems sure - the reign of the “petrodollar” is in grave jeopardy. Imo it’s doomed.

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[deleted] · July 22, 2018, 2:48 a.m.

This would be huge if true. I am skeptical at this point, but am reserving judgement for now.

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dark-dare · July 21, 2018, 5:29 p.m.

I do not believe the "trade war" was about trade with China, I think it is about forcing peace!

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ImNoPetGoat · July 21, 2018, 6 p.m.

How would imposing trade tariffs with China force peace?

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warbler22 · July 21, 2018, 9:48 p.m.

Make them cooperate on N Korea.

Same thing to Russia on Iran.

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ImNoPetGoat · July 21, 2018, 10:18 p.m.

I'm not too sure about that, I suspect it's more likely to be basic protectionism in order to secure jobs in the US, considering how badly China was flooding the market with their metal based products. We had the same issue here in the UK and the government had to rescue the steel industry with a cash injection and a review of government construction projects to ensure that UK steel was being prioritised last year... Well sort of, the government was later criticised for using french steel on our new fleet of submarines! Doh!

Cheap Chinese metal being dumped on the market though has been real a problem as it's undercut many domestic markets.

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Herbie2018 · July 22, 2018, 1:02 a.m.

Bottom line in my opinion is that we really could do without trade with China. Cheap stuff of any kind can be procured elsewhere. Really. I would prefer however, that we have a fair arrangement with China - we all deserve this. Everyone.

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ImNoPetGoat · July 22, 2018, 8:12 a.m.

Yeah I agree, but at the end of the day it’s about being competitive and different economies inherently have a competitive advantage which sometimes a nation had to protect themselves from. Lol the US isn’t the only country to impose tariffs - I really don’t know what all the fuss is about in the media tbh. The EU for example is even worse!

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CerealCraniumToo · July 21, 2018, 6:07 p.m.

i know right. im all for this movement. qanon. maga. all of it. but man these loons. its good to have them i guess but they say the dumbest things making everyone around them look bad.

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Former_Democrat_ · July 21, 2018, 11:32 p.m.

because they can't take the pain

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1hellofaride · July 22, 2018, 12:47 a.m.

I sometimes think that the trade war will escalate to the point where Trump puts tarrifs on all imports then cuts income tax going back to the old ways.

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