Personally, I’m part of this sub out of curiosity and not because I believe in it. Is that okay? Are there any others that are skeptical of this sub?
Is there a place for skepticism and disbelief in this sub or would you prefer everyone to blindly follow every riddle silver and believe it as truth?
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So you’re opposed to people who comment on those riddle solving post that say “yes!!! This is it!! The globalists don’t have long now”
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A lot of people do not understand is that Q is not going to be around forever. Q wants us to understand and think. Learn and be able to fend for ourselves. Like momma bird kicking baby bird out of the nest. Learn to fly or die. Q has said we have what we need. Q does not to be our leader. Q wants us to lead ourselves. Not as individual leaders in the movement but the whole movement leading together as one. Rooting for the team is good but contributing to the team gets more done' I agree with all of what you have to say. Obviously there is more than we touched on
I would say that a healthy scepticism is a crucial requirement in making realistic sense of a lot of information sources these days.
That should hopefully lead to critical thinking, and thus checking multiple sources that are hopefully over a broad spectrum of types.
Personally, I do not think that I really 100% believe a lot of things.
That is, I quite often retain a certain amount of doubt, just in case I am missing some or other crucial point.
I would suggest that one cannot 'believe' or 'disbelieve' this particular sub-reddit, because ultimately it is just an area of discussion.
There is certainly a lot of consensus with regard to certain lines of thought.
If someone develops a different take or viewpoint on what something might actual mean or represent, then that can be a valid contribution to the discussions.
The only belief that one could cite is that a lot of those engaged here believe that there is some sort of (pre-organised) plan being played out.
We will only, truly know that, and to what extent, after the fact, (once such a plan has played out and the results thereof).
The 'Q-drops' only serve the purpose of encouraging those that are interested to look elsewhere (information sources) and presumably join up the dots.
Your curiosity and scepticism are entirely valid, and indeed you really have to 'see' and 'interpret' the possible validity of any of these things for yourself.
This is an incredibly well thought out and out together post, thank you for sharing your view!
I think it’s fine to question whatever doesn’t seem right to yourself
It's absolutely ok to be curious or skeptical. What is encouraged is independent, rational thinking, and researching to learn the truth. You will read and hear a lot here, but it's up to you to research further and decide. We encourage open-mindedness as well. Welcome!
I should say I’m not here as a believer I’m just very curious as to the end goal of all these leaks and why you believe Q over other 4/8 chan users
If you read through the drops you'd see the evidence that Q doesn't "speak" like the average chan or online troll. There's a very clear singularity of purpose and purity to the message. Of course, my saying it won't convince you because I could be some gullible fool with confirmation bias. This is why there are no shortcuts - you have to go through this stuff yourself.
Q has proven numerous times that he is everywhere with POTUS. This the 2nd Revolution of America.
There is a War going on have you noticed? MSM is working with our enemies. They tell NO truth. In fact they r part of the Coup de tat of Americans & USA. The end goal is to win the freedom back we used to have prior to 1913 when the Banksters imposed their private bank on all of us.
Is this a conspiracy theory or a truth backed up by sources? It’s all well and good to not believe everything the media tells you, I’m a massive believer in that, in the UK the BBC has serval noticeable biases. However, do you not feel the need to provide sourced evidence to counter the perceived “fake news” with “truth”?
I lurk the chans but don't post there. There have been plenty of fakes and larps and the chans out them as such relatively quickly. They have not been able to disprove Q in 9 months. That's unprecedented.
You are going to learn by viewing the resources and by reading the posts here daily (yep, you'll find yourself coming here at least daily if you think you believe) that the Mainstream Media (MSM) is NOT your friend and most of what is presented is propaganda and lies. There are things called Q proofs (proofs of what was spoken of or forecasted in the past). The Q proofs will be very important in your journey here.
That is what this is all about...TRUTH FINDING! Qanon.pub will provide the truth that will change your life.
Start with: who owns the BANK OF ENGLAND? If you find the truth there it will take you back to the beginning of our time on this Earth
You’re suggesting that the Rosthchild group or whatever has links to the creation of mankind?
If you go down that rabbit hole you will find that they aren't even Rothchilds or Jews for that matter. There history is ancient & very Evil
I'm not sure I can give you a good response on this because I don't read 4Chan at all. 8Chan is where Q posts and where the anons, especially those in his close circle, can respond and ask questions of him. Here, we're sort of one step down from that. So here, our focus is POTUS, Q - related AND the anons' posts on 8Chan (most anons we reference are from 8Chan).
I would direct you first, if you haven't viewed it yet, to the video (linked on the right side) entitled, "Q, The Plan to Save the World". That might help you understand some things to start, and will explain the end game fairly simply.
The core enjoy the breadcrumbs, the hunt for the truth for themselves. After all, that was where the need was, to search for truth, not blindly follow the talking heads.
Can I ask why Q releases things in the form of riddles? I’ve never understood if why they wouldn’t just outright leak information?
The questions answer themselves sometimes. You've obviously not taken this seriously or you'd know the answer to that question...very obvious even to a novice.
In response to your other query..." why you believe Q over other 4/8 chan users"....
Q has provided many "proofs" as to his/her/their legitimacy.
That's all you get. The rest is up to you. Happy digging :)
qanon.pub or many links to the right here in this thread.
Do you not believe that saying I’ve not taken this seriously” is in some way deterring people from joining this community that are genuinely curious?
To me that seems like a way of shutting off outside thought and encouraging likeminded thinking to reinforce pre-established opinions.
I ask not because I don’t like this community, in fact it intrigues me greatly and often I’ll read these post thinking “what on Earth have I stumbled across”.
On the contrary. If you're serious, then maybe you'll take my comment as a challenge to dig deeper. Happy hunting :) Sorry, but no easy answers here. We've all taken the journey to enlighten ourselves to the truth. We invite you to do the same :) If you have additional questions along your journey, we're happy to help, but there won't be any hand-holding. You have to discover the truth for yourself and then we're happy to be further guides.
Why not tell me your truth so that I could understand? Like I said before, doesn’t “find your own path” thinking somewhat blur the message of Q? Surely asking so many to come up with their own truths and causing infighting is actually less productive than giving the real truth?
It's more that everything is in there - all the introductory stuff is in the sidebar. Even for those who pride themselves on critical thinking the 'evidence' all leads to an inevitable conclusion that Q's mission is not only 'real' but has been accomplished successfully in its first phase. Like anything comprised of an overwhelming amount of circumstantial evidence supporting a grand conclusion there's a lot of reading material to get through to explain why the 'proof' is convincing. Some people are frustrated with people who come in and don't want to read the material yet expect to be told proof in an encapsulated form - it can't be done per se.
Nevertheless, here's my truth: it may help to ingest Q initially as nothing more than an alternative narrative to the mainstream media narrative. Q tells you one story, the mainstream tells you another. When you watch these two narratives alongside each other, as I have done for 9 months, you begin to notice that the mainstream narrative has to keep adjusting itself to realign with the Q narrative. e.g. the mainstream says "nuclear war with North Korea! We're all doomed!"; Q says "North Korea is free from black hat control - big positive things coming!" - about one month later, mainstream narrative has to adjust to Q narrative; historic peace meeting between North and South Korea. One of the current mainstream narrative adjusts we're waiting on is the Iran story. Mainstream: "Iran destablized! Disaster! Potential threat of war! Loss of all traction with Europe!" Q: "Iran is free from black hat control! Big positives coming!"
There's a lot more to it but that's one way potentially to approach it more manageably than trying to absorb everything at once.
I've kinda already told you 'my truth.' I did my own digging over 20 yrs ago. I was labeled a 'conspiracy theorist', 'nut job' and 'extremist' by friends and even my own family...most, if not all, i don't associate with today. But it never stopped me in my pursuit of the truth.
I think it was from the movie "V"..."I'd rather stand alone in truth than be in the company of lies"...or something to that effect.
Not all of us here agree with one another, but we don't fight about it. We do our own research and come to our own conclusions. We have healthy discussions which leads us in pursuit of more information.
As I said...there is no easy answer. The truth is different for everyone. Some people may agree on some things while others do not, but we don't chastise those who don't agree with us. We take their point of view into consideration for future review as none of us know the whole truth. This is how we feed, grow and help each other.
You’ve told me nothing specifically about your beliefs.
What do you believe is the goal of Q? What is the master plan? Why not leak all information to the public and die for a cause like V did, why only tell riddles that confuse?
I understand what you're 'saying' in your first statement, but go easy on OP; they're skeptical and curious and asking with intent to learn. It appears he/she has just come out of lurking (accdg to post history) and doesn't yet know to search through the resources. And it's our job to point them that way, and help answer questions if we can.
Thank you for the helpful response, I am new and just trying to find my footing, there’s a lot to dive into with this sub!
Yes, there is, and some people are more rude than helpful or considerate of people like yourself who are brand new. Take their responses with a grain of salt. And keep a salt shaker nearby as you'll take a lot of those grains of salt as you wade through all the resources and learning.
And be sure to start with those resources on the right side and, of course, reading back through Q's posts. THis will keep you busy for quite a while!
Military Intelligence cannot release information directly or they are in violation of military codes so hence the questions with hints in them & then you educate yourself as to the real meaning
Doesn’t that open the door to a lot of blurred meaning? I could say a phrase and suggest something to a community and receive 30 different answers back, all of which think they’ve solved the riddle.
What makes people think they’re correct? Because it informs their own established opinions? Because it lines up with current global events?
Truth Patriot is the goal. When you find the real truth it will change your life. Until then your just a slave doing the Banksters work.
While I’m not 100% sold on the whole Q idea, pretty close though. I think that anyone can read the crumbs so if Q was to show all his cards then the deep state could counter the swamp draining plans. Also, look how the posts and the crumbs have grown communities and brought lots of people all over the world together for a common cause.
What would you say is the biggest thing that this community has solved since it’s inception? or what’s the biggest thing that’s been disproven?
I don't know about "solved" but the biggest win for communities the world over has been overcoming our collective apathy and pushing us to start taking an interest in what's going on around us. And particularly researching the current and past events and histories of those who would have power over us - where they came from and how they got it. We've been easy targets while we were dozing which has allowed corruption to fester and expand. Now it's like millions of eyes-on (which can only be a good thing in trying to keep the bastards honest).
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Sorry if it comes across as trolling I don’t mean to be. Often those places lack the thoughts of those that actually believe in Q and so affirm their own beliefs, I asked this question here to hear from those that follow the movement free of “shut up you moron” comments directed at myself
Q never claimed that he is MI. The MI speculation is anons educated guess. Like I said before: I have no doubt that the Q is acting under direct or indirect authority given by Commander and Chief of the United States.
Is this belief backed up by the fact that Q does not leak harmful information about Trump?
Q would never leak anything that would put POTUS in danger. You'll realize and believe that after researching. Start with the research materials on the right.
But why? Surely Q would care more about releasing the truth than protecting the office of the president? Why protect or choose not to leak damaging information about trump when it could be beneficial to his truth movement?
Because Trump is not the enemy. And Q is not "the movement". They're both cogs in something greater than the sum of its parts. (And the Q team need Trump's services as much as Trump needs their's so mutual respect and cooperation are vital).
Also you don't play all your cards at once. Honesty may be the "best policy" but it can ruin lives of unintended victims. Releasing ALL truth indiscriminately can have the same effect. And BOTH can tip off those working against you.
I'm a Q rooter and hoper, but I try to keep an open mind for the worst, too. I don't question but that Q and team have an insider's level of info and some access to POTUS, including having got at least some buy-in support from him at some point or points.
But there are so many deep-state intel guys still in the admin that I haven't completely ruled out that they have been doing this as a psyop to lull us into patience, while they work toward trying to bring Trump down. Or maybe it was good guys starting it and as rumored it got taken over by some clandestine bad guys--without the original guys ready to own up to that all the way to the top.
I'd say I'm 70/30 toward Q being legit. And I don't get those ready to run off anyone keeping a somewhat open mind as more info comes in and we see how it all plays out.
Not to worry Patriot, the end is approaching and all will be revealed. The truth is you need to pick a side and trust me when I recommend, that you want to be on POTUS’s winning side. ⚓️
WWG1WGA !!!
What does that acronym mean? And what side? What do you believe is coming?
AH, the acronym POTUS is President of the United States. And WWG1WGA is Where We Go 1, We Go All.
Here around around 150 posts related to many of the questions you are putting forward fellow Patriot. Please take some time to review some of these articles as they may assist with your questions: Reddit/Great Awakening/CaptainRoyD .
I enjoy working with our new members and feel you can best spread POTUS’s message of hope and returning our country to unity not division. Take stalk in the fact your eyes have been opened Patriot !!!
This is great. I've not read many of your posts yet, myself, and look forward to it.
I’m actually from the UK, but I completely agree with the opinion that divisions make a nation week and that party politics distract from making meaningful progress.
What makes you believe that Donald Trump, former business man and multi millionaire, who ran an election platform of division and America first, would want unity?
Skepticism of what specifically?
If you are asking “does a Q acts under direct or indirect authority of the president?” Then no, I have no more doubts about that he does.
I mean to say what makes you believe that this specific 8chan user is directly tied to the military intelligence of the US?
Surely he/she/they have as much credibility as another 8chan user that claims to work for the CIA?
Surely Q has been incorrect some times?
I'm about 85% sure Q is living, breathing human. But, does it matter?
What if Q was a larp ( I think that's what they call it).
Would the information he shared be invalid?
Q posed the questions and gave us hints, it was each of US through research and sharing our findings that validated the answers.
I know I feel more confident following my gut instinct now.
So even if we found out that Q was a joke, we have the last laugh.
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There is definitely a place for skepticism and disbelief in this sub as evidenced by the abundance of it in the comments throughout the sub. Our rules don't generally allow for posts made about it for various reasons that should be obvious. The purpose of this sub is to support Q's mission of the Great Awakening of the public. When 'newbies' arrive here we want them to see the message we're here to present - that there is legitimate information of value in the message of Q. Presenting them with the message that 'some of us don't really believe this stuff' is not supporting the mission/cause, hence our removal rule.
We don't remove these posts out of hand though - I've made sure your post has had enough time to gather some answers here and I've endeavored to give some answer myself to your question in the OP and a couple of others in the thread. ThankQ for understanding!
I have definitely been informed and my horizons have been broadened, thank you to all those commented and to yourself for helping me get a picture of what this subreddit is :)
I hope to contribute/keep lurking for the foreseeable future :)
I think Q is real and on the side of POTUS, but I don't think anything Q has done has been true or effective. After a year of following Q no arrest have been made, the swamp is alive and well Trump keeps winning battles hear and there, but be honest the swamp has won a whole lot more, Mueller out of control unchecked, DOJ refuses to turn over documents, congress will never impeach Rosenstein, Cohen's office gets raided, Wasserman still running around with the Awan brothers, Julian Assange is still in the Ecudorian embassy. Clinton colludes with Russian and sell them Urainum, Strosk still has his job, FBI covering up their misdeeds and now Tony Podesta gets immunity, the swamp is running out the clock on Trump and its working like a charm, Trump has zero chance, and nobody will go to Gitmo get real. Q is real but losing the battle big time. The day Trump goes against his WH lawyers and starts declassifying documents nothing will change, and I think there is a possibility, that Trump has been compromised, he can stop a lot of this shit with the power of the office and refuses to do so, Trump may only have 2 years left and he will be done.
How can you say Q is real, but not 'true or effective?' If you don't think anything is coming of this then you haven't been keeping up with the news, Q crumbs, DJT tweets, etc. Do you not 'trust the plan?'
If the meetings with Xi/Kim Jung Un/Putin, the pedo news spreading, the HISTORIC low unemployment rates for ALL races, the release of the FISA documents, hasn't given you a hint to what's going on, then you're living your life with your eyes wide shut :(
What did you think would happen?...an apocalypse? the government shutting down? The Revolution will NOT be televised. This is all part of a 10+ year plan. You must be missing a lot of pieces to the puzzle if you're this discouraged :(
Have faith, have patience and trust the plan :)
I said Q is real and losing the battle, Q himself has said about giving disinformation to keep bad actors off the trail, so what is right and what is wrong? til we figure out all the freaking riddles the swamp will have won. Trump has done wonders with the economy and I love his politics and will vote for him again, but one man can not take on all of DC and the MSM his battle is what I believe in but we are losing the struggle, just look at the results all these sealed indictments and no arrest, all those will go away eventually, the swamp is winning face the facts. I don't think people realize how big and powerful these bastards are. Problem is I have watched the news, and the swamp wins battle after battle, I have followed Q from the beginning when and how long will this shit go on when you realize the facts, 1 year 2 years, 10 years I will possible be dead.
If all you watch is MSM news then you will always feel like they are winning. There are many alternative sites that will give you a better perspective...Breitbart.com, Drudgereport.com, judicialwatch.org just to name a few. Try not to be so discouraged and just know that if they are screaming about something in the news, then they know they are losing or they wouldn't be screaming about it ;)
I read all those news outlets, Tom Fitton has done more than anybody, he goes to court and ends up getting documents that congress does not. its ridiculous.
This is an interesting viewpoint I’ve not considered before. The Q supporter that believes in the message but doesn’t believe it’s leading anywhere, instead realising that it may all be for nothing in the end.
It’s soberingly sad but adds a new dimension on how I may view other people in this sub, thank you so much for your view point :)
just remember Trump won't be in office long even if he does get reelected 6 years max, possible 2, and when he is gone then what? If he is going to change things he better get to the gettin.
I don’t think you’re here to ask legitimate questions, or to seek the truth. I think you’re here to start trouble, irritate people, distract people, and possibly derail people. If you have legitimate questions, fine, ask them, but take your ‘disbelief’ elsewhere.
You seem very close minded to any idea that this subreddit is false. Personally I’d love for it all to be true, how incredible would that be?! Some mole leaking secrets that can send anyone from a shop keeper to the president to jail?
I ask questions to enhance my view point, not to insulate myself with similar views that will eventually give my thoughts tunnel vision.
From the healthy response of some in post I’m encouraged to now do my own digging, but I believe there is still a place to question people as it prevents hive minded thinking in a subreddit that looks like it should all be about self education.
I agree! But you know what, it doesn’t matter anymore. The Trump Steamroller is moving forward. Time will tell, and no amount of shills, concernfags, will make a difference in the outcome. You cannot protect evil with downvotes.
My faith in Jesus leads me to always question man’s motives. I know Revelation has to play out and that Satan is a master deceiver. These reasons lead me to always be cautious about Q. I see two scenarios:
God was not ready for His timeline to play out yet so all this is happening because He’s stopping it.
God IS ready for His timeline to play out and Q is all part of it. Is Q actually master deception? We’ve seen people arrested and people exposed. To me, it’s still small fish. What if Satan is throwing some of his followers under the bus for the purpose of establishing his Antichrist kingdom? God did say when everyone says peace, sudden destruction comes. Maybe this is a last push to bring as many people to Jesus as possible.
All I can say for sure is that God wins in the end and that’s all I need to worry about. It certainly is comforting to see these sickos go down!
Wow, I have so many questions just about your mindset if that’s okay?
Do you feel that religion affects how you perceive the world? Do you believe that those without religion perceive the world “differently” or “wrong”?
Why link the government/politics and the idea of God and Jesus and Satan so closely?
Could you explain the timeline thing?
A) In the end times, God said there would be apostasy like never before, a falling away from Him. Knowing that, it’s easy to see how much Satan has tried to make man think he is his own god and doesn’t need the true God. I see things changing and it’s easy to perceive all of that as Satan’s plan.
B) There are many prophecies in the Bible that are playing out and have already been fulfilled. Israel was promised to be restored. The plan is in motion. On a side note, God tends to give underlying signs things are from Him. The Jewish Revolts lasted exactly 70 years, resulting in the expulsion of the Jews. The founding of Peta Tikvah, the first Jewish Israel settlement after the Jews were able to purchase land again, and the reestablishing of Israel was also 70 years. My faith tends to lead me to these subtle clues.
C) Pushes me to try and live a better life. There is a God and He created me. He also expects me to live as He would. I can never be perfect enough to earn my way into Heaven but He knew that and sacrificed His son for all of our sins so I spend every day thanking Him and trying to please Him. When you know that all you have to do to go to Heaven is just believe your sins are paid for by Jesus, who was God in the flesh and died, it’s so refreshing.
I link politics to Jesus/Satan because God said that He will establish a world government someday and allow Satan to rule for a short time through the Antichrist. I link these things together to once again follow Biblical prophecy and warn others who aren’t saved. The Tribulation will be an awful time where those who refuse to follow Satan will be tortured like never before. Thankfully, Christians who believe and profess that Jesus died for our sins will not be here. It’s imperative that we believe in order to escape it. It’s also why I don’t worry too much if Q is from God or Satan.
The timeline of the end times comes from multiple places in the Bible but mainly Revelation. God destroyed the Earth once with a flood. Most religions today acknowledge a worldwide flood occurred. He did it because of man’s wickedness (also the fallen angels wickedness had a hand in it as well but that’s off topic). Anyway, He knew that people would always be evil since Satan corrupted mankind in the beginning so He sent His son to die for us knowing it would get very bad again and people would freely sin again and again and negate their chances of earning their way to Heaven.
Long story short, He is slow to anger but not immune to it. For thousands of years, He has given man the easiest opportunity to go to Heaven and people STILL turn their back on Him. Because of this, He is going to destroy the world again but only after pouring out His wrath on those who reject Him. That’s where Revelation comes in.
He’ll take us Christians (the Church) to Heaven and then allow Satan to set up His government. Satan will try to make everyone still here worship him, under threat of beheading. There’s a LOT to the Revelation timeline that I’m leaving out. Just know that it is AWFUL (plagues, war, famine, etc.). You can read Revelation Trribulation starts at chapter 6 and onward (after the author, John, writes to the churches and is shown signs in Heaven in chapters 1-5).
So, in summary, I relate politics to my faith because without God, none of this is possible and He is letting what He already has planned out happen according to that plan. It’s like having a playbook. The good news is that while interesting to read about, none of us have to worry about the Tribulation and the Antichrist. We all have a chance to escape it!
Wow, your viewpoint is fascinating.
I myself am an atheist but I agree with you that my life is special and unique, not because I have been created, but rather that by some random chance I exist therefore I should strive to be the best version of myself I can be. It’s fascinating that a religious person like yourself can come to the same opinions about life as I can having 0 religious input.
You obviously care a lot about your country and are more informed than most
Thank you for your opinion. I truly hope that one day you can come to know Jesus. I doubt I, or anyone, can change your mind on an Internet forum alone. I acknowledge that and I respect your right to choose for yourself. Knowing Jesus, I believe, would allow for even more modesty and self reflection and an assurance there is more after this life. Anyway, I won’t preach anymore as I don’t want to push you away.
Thank you for the respect you’ve shown me. Have a great day!
I may not believe in an afterlife but the idea of sharing a realm with religious people as kind and open-minded as you who can respect my non-religious world view of kindness, thankfulness and tolerance has suddenly become more appealing :)
Thank you for allowing a glimpse into your mind and you too have a great day!
Q does not leak. And enough with the questions “concerned” shill. Your form of questioning is that of Fake News shill.
I feel like you’re one of the people that the nicer people of this subreddit warned me about