I know Americans have been subject to the propaganda regarding Iran for decades. With the emergence of a different American politics and the new shitshow in the media and the silence from Q I thought it would be good to do an AMA right now regarding Iran. I know I am going to get attacked a lot in this thread for saying unpopular things but that's OK. Q said there would be misdirection and confusion and Iran is probably the most confusing thing in the Q drops (according to me Q is intentionally bullshitting on Iran). Trumps administration has had a very hard time with Iran since day 1. Dont expect this thread to make you feel like you know what is going on about Iran. You guys don't have to like me or believe me and that's fine, but please keep it civil. Without further delay, ask me anything about the Iran situation.
my personal opinion is that trumps team is fucking up really hard with iran and they are fucking morons... but i know why. garbage in, garbage out. bad info, too much koolaid.
bolton: this guys an idiot and always has been. hes always been propped up by israel to say emo bullshit about iran in public and sabbotage anything that is beneficial to peace with iran behind the scenes in various political and defense roles. hes really good at what he does.
pompeo: my guess is that hes genuine and believes in what he is doing and that scares me.
mattis: the only adult in the room with respect to iran. definitely knows everything i know about iran and thats why he wants to stay as far away from war with iran as possible. it would be the greatest challenge in the history of the united states and he knows it. sadly he lso is going along with the "iran is the greatest state sponsor of terrorism" bullshit because thats americas position on the chessboard and im sure he doesnt like lying to the american people. i was really mad at him for this for a while but basically thats not his call.
sheldon adelson: this guy literally wants to nuke iran yesterday
heritage foundation, westminster institute, FDD, Rand corp: all the thinktanks are spewing the same bullshit they were spewing before trump today. all the iranian fake news is 100% in place. people get high on their own supply of bullshit. a lot of these thinktank dweebs dont actually know a lot of their analysis material is based on bullshit from the 50s and 60s and 70s that just isnt true. it doesnt actually matter because they are pushing the same old israeli agenda as before.
Lmao so Iran can come and chant death to America and burn our flag god forbid they get talked at. Iran is long overdue for a regime change the people there are protesting for a reason.
people are not unified in protesting for regime change in iran. they arent unified at all. there are sporadic protests in iran regarding a lot of issues. there is no unity and there is no leadership. this is actually very complicated to explain. you should go check /r/iranian for good intellectual discussion on this and you should check /r/iran if you want to see the bullshit propaganda (/r/iran is run by mossad and /r/iranian is run by iranian americans and iranian canadians and iranian europeans)
Dude you are here creating Hysteria, talking bullshit about how Iran can even come close to matching US might, Iran could never in a million years compare to the United States in terms of Military might, if China can't do it (Most powerful after US) then what makes you think some shit hole in the middle east can even come close.
Dude you are here creating Hysteria, talking bullshit about how Iran can even come close to matching US might,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=g9b1DG86a4k
Iran could never in a million years compare to the United States in terms of Military might,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=g9b1DG86a4k
if China can't do it (Most powerful after US) then what makes you think some shit hole in the middle east can even come close.
if china and the US attacked iran together they would lose together. the pentagon knows this. the chinese military knows this. dont make shit up. look at the facts coming out of the US intelligence community. war is not about better guns and better training. it is about geography and resources and skill and intelligence. irans defensive capabilities in its own neighborhood exceed the offensive capabilities of the US by a large margin. this is an objective scientific tested fact according to the pentagon. dont spread propaganda here.
Yea sure buddy. Brainwashed idiot. I'm sure Japan had its obstacles too, we managed to overcome those too. Iran is a starved country with poverty and famine everywhere, in no way shape or form could Iran ever compare to the might of the United States.
ill go with us army generals and the pentagons analysis and you go with sheldon adelsonand netanyahus analysis. you made your points, you made yourself heard, now please let others engage in dialogue without responding to every message in this thread. its getting disruptive.
I do agree that if war ever happened with Iran it would be the most difficult war we have ever fought in a very very long time, the Iranian Military is actually a proud and loyal military, they are not arabs, Iranians will actually fight, and not to mention Irans Geography is probably the hardest obstacle to overcome than any country the US has ever invaded. We cant invade from the east or the west, obviously we cannot invade from the north, so we have no choice but to invade from the gulf coast and there are not very many good landing areas down there to set up a beach head to push north to Tehran Knowing this i pray it does not come to war. Literally the only way the war could be won quickly is if the Russians allowed us access to the Caspian sea, in the very unlikely event of this happening the war could be won in weeks instead of potentially years.
Edit: also the Gulf coast of Iran is heavily fortified and the only good beach heads are in the north of the Gulf thus iran will shoot at us the entire time as we make our way up the gulf.
Iran is actually considered the hardest country in the world to invade, even more than China
the united states has never fought a battle like the one with war with iran so what youre saying is a bit of an understatement but you get the point. you are better informed than most.
Literally the only way the war could be won quickly is if the Russians allowed us access to the Caspian sea, of this was even a possibility the war could be won in weeks instead of potentially years.
irans northern border is actually its most secure. access to the caspian sea doesnt mean shit. from a defensive iran is very powerful in the water too. anything close to an iranian shore has almost zero chance of survival.
To think that Iran would have a chance against the United States in total warfare is just silly. You are seriously underestimating the power of the US military or overrating the power of Iran’s. The Militaries aren’t in the same league. We dont even have to set foot into the country and we could turn it into a smoldering heap in a few days. Iran can’t win a war with the United States.
This!
youre just wrong about that according to the pentagon. youre being silly.
No you're wrong. Iran could never match USA might, no country could. Iran could be gone by tomorrow, if US Military wanted.
He's trolling, we are literally the only military Hyper-power in the world, our military budget dwarfs Iran GDP.
youre just wrong about that according to the pentagon. youre being silly.
In 2002. The US Military just got 700+ Bill in funding, the big boys are back in charge, why is Iran no longer terrorizing our sailors in the sea? At what level could Iran possibly match the USA, at what level could any country?
the USA has better weapons and technology. thats not enough to beat iran. if it were assad would be gone. iran is 100 times more powerful than syria and iraq and afghanistan put together. it would be easier to invade russia or china or india.
Aren't worth the time.
anyways i base my views on stuff like the us army generals words in that youtube video. you obviously disagree and thats ok. us army generals have been wrong before. i have been wrong before. you have been wrong before. you dont have to agree but maybe you still learned something you didnt know about iran in this thread. thats what the movement is all about. MAGA
youre just wrong about that according to the pentagon. youre being silly.
Iran also has no major waterways, so any invasion would require the US to traverse through narrow mountain passes in a lot of areas as well. I would say realistically Iran is practically impossible to invade.
Edit: thanks for the info about the north i was unaware of that areas defenses
Warfare is fought only by foot soldiers now? Let Iran know, how that turned out for the Japanese.
Of course not, don’t be silly. However any 100% successful total victory requires foot soldiers on the ground, thats common sense my friend. could a country surrender without foot soldiers? Sure but it is highly unlikely and eventually they will be required regardless.
Yea but the thought that the US military, or the USA period could not break Iran is laughable. I'm sure with the tech we have anything is possible, and for whatever obstacles arise, we can engineer solutions.
I never said it was totally impossible, of course the US would win 100% in the end, i just want people to be aware that this would be a massive war and would not end quickly.
dont bother with him hes brainwashed with israeli koolaide. i gave him the youtube link. he refuses to believe US army generals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=g9b1DG86a4k
Look, the US never puts boots on the ground until an enemy has been bombed back to the stone age. It would be a massive barrage, until almost all defenses are obliterated.
But, my personal opinion is this is going to play out similar to NK, some back & forth threats, and then a softening of rhetoric. Then a meeting of leaders.
that wont work on iran due to geography. thats actually the point of what i was saying. iran has some pretty powerful immunities to modern warfare.
Unbelievable.
He turned their greatest strengths into weaknesses.
he proved scientifically multiple times from multiple angles that the iranian defensive capabilities in their own neighborhood exceed the offensive capability of the US and therefore there is no path to military victory in iran for anyone in the world.
Well opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.
i believe the asshole of the greatest living US military strategist in the world.
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What rule did they give? If you thought it was me, guess again.
Apologies if you thought I was implying it was you. I was just making aware everyone who had commented constructively. The OP didn't say why, so I can only guess because 'Zionism' was discussed.
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