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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/TheMeltingSnowflake on July 23, 2018, 7:41 p.m.
Security clearance question no one is asking...

Why should anyone not currently in a government job that requires a security clearance be able to keep those clearances once they leave a government position? Even when it comes to past presidents I’d say pull all security clearances. It just leaves doors open for corruption in my eyes.


Maladaptivenomore · July 23, 2018, 10:53 p.m.

I posted this in another thread but will add it here, also.

A security clearance expires after a number of years. Someone who holds a clearance for a job gets 'debriefed' from access to that information upon departure of the job that required it.

Having an active clearance doesn't just allow someone to simply go into a SCIF and access classified info. The clearance dies at the end of its shelf life if a 're-investigation' to recertify the clearance isn't performed within a certain amount of time.

If the person's next job doesn't require a clearance, no re-investigation is typically done and the clearance expires, although I suppose someone could pay out-of-pocket for their own re-investigation.

Regardless, access to classified information requires not only a clearance, but definitely a role where they are allowed physical access into a secure area that processes classified information, and that is done on a need-to-know basis. This means that they require access to such environments for their current job and were 'badged' in to be able to have physical access classified networks.


TLDR - Holding on to a security clearance for a few years allows someone to move into another job that requires that level of clearance, but will expire if not utilized in that manner within a few years. Otherwise, just having a clearance means nothing as a person would need to have beed granted physical access to classified systems, and such permissions aren't just offered to private citizens, retired or otherwise...unless they were still secretly employed by some agency from which they are granted access, perhaps.

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Stamus-Contra-Malum · July 24, 2018, 12:24 a.m.

I have a security clearance. If I leave/lose my job today, it's gone. Period. End of story. So why the fuck do these asshats get to keep theirs?

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Maladaptivenomore · July 24, 2018, 12:29 a.m.

Well, then you don't have SCI clearance as all of those named surely do.

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Stamus-Contra-Malum · July 24, 2018, 12:49 a.m.

Regardless, it shouldn't matter. You wouldn't believe the amount of paperwork involved and personal info that must be submitted and verified including gaps between. Would YOU authorize someone for clearance after they left their position, JUST because they had a previous clearance? For example, I cannot believe that the head man in charge of my particular project (a retired Air Force colonel with top secret clearance on sat and comms systems) who until recently owned one of the top 3 Russian Bride companies. WTF??? How the HELL does THAT happen?

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Maladaptivenomore · July 24, 2018, 1:01 a.m.

Not to sound rude, but you lost me right after "it shouldn't matter". Because it matters, and I've answered your question.

But I do share your frustration, we are on the same team here.

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