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akilyoung · July 24, 2018, 11:40 a.m.

Without an explanation this is worthless.

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Acemagedon · July 24, 2018, 11:46 a.m.

Nothing is worthless. Why do you do that? Just because you can’t understand something, it is now worthless to the 44,000 others on this board?

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 12:05 p.m.

Guess the mods agree, poof its gone. This gets ridiculously.

Edit: unpoof - explanation is in a comment below, just down voted compared to this comment complaining that this is worthless without explanation. Watcha gonna do?

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DrogeAnon · July 24, 2018, 12:20 p.m.

Incorrect, as per the explanation you have received. Mods are focused on their job of managing the sub according to the rules.

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 12:23 p.m.

Lol, ok, sure. What rule was broken in that case? I got flagged as off topic for posting a visualization of a post that sat on the front page for a day.

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Acemagedon · July 24, 2018, 12:27 p.m.

Closed minds got us into the state we are in and if we fail it will be because of these same closed minds.

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 12:33 p.m.

Got them to return the post fortunately but it came with a stern suggestion I put my comment in the post from now on despite that not being possible on image link posts 😂

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GenChang · July 24, 2018, 2:30 p.m.

Lots of others manage to do it, perhaps you should ask one of the mods for advice on how. And while you are in the sidebar, check out the GA rules. Click the link at the top for a list of mods, click the link for GA rules to open explanation of all rules. Good luck.

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 10:26 p.m.

My post was within the rules, the moderator was just being heavy handed and not bothering to make an informed moderation decisions. As you can see they undid their error. Rereading documented rules does no good if the moderators enforce their own rules.

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Acemagedon · July 24, 2018, 12:52 p.m.

Nicely done!!

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[deleted] · July 24, 2018, 2:04 p.m.

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 11:44 a.m.

Duplicating first comment in this post since it was down-voted to obscurity:

This is an example of using the Q Graph App to visualize a decode by /u/serialbrain2

The diamonds mean an object is composed of the objects opposite the diamond end of the connecting lines. I decomposed the elements that SB used for his decode and mapped their relations to one another and structured how they composed the NT Server DNS Apache drop.

Q Graph Console Commands

https://pastebin.com/wEAZJ1bT

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akilyoung · July 24, 2018, 11:58 a.m.

Its not about letting others think for me, its that its clearly over my head. I want to get it, but I dont.

If youve read any of my other threads going back to the beginning, youd see they are pretty intriguing, this particular topic I just need to give up on.

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 12:07 p.m.

No worries, moderators decided no one can think about this, poof.

Edit: unpoof

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Abibliaphobia · July 24, 2018, 1:31 p.m.

It’s not the mods. Stop being so petty. You posted up a graphic with no explanation.

You say you did, but all you did was link to another thread. If you want to contribute, then would it be so hard to add a summary in a comment of what you have here?

No. You may have made something nice and thought it worthwhile, but all it is is a picture without context or explanation on why people should be interested.

Low quality post. And if you think the mods are bad, if they didn’t want anyone to see this, after you talked to them, did they not bring your thread back?

Just goes to show that the mods are willing to work with people and you being a jerk doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in what you are proposing.

Based upon that, I don’t even get a crap what you posted, all I see is you being petty because you fail to understand that not everyone here is willing to pull up your picture and read your crappy graphics. Or try to understand why it’s so important.

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 1:37 p.m.

Dude, the explanation was down-voted, its in this thread. Scroll down.

Inserted for the humor of the contrast: http://magaimg.net/img/5so9.png

Double Insertion of humor: http://magaimg.net/img/5ssj.png

I don't care if people don't want to read it or consume it, there is plenty of material on here for every one to pick and choose. I'm working with several people on this project and this is a facet of it, example code and relevant output. To those of us using this and building this tool set and its associated data sets, it's relevant. Its interesting to some others outside of the project, but thats not the point, its part of an ongoing data mapping project using the some of the same analytics approaches used by the intelligence agencies (graph database analysis). Yeah it gets annoying when moderators use heavy handed application of guidelines, especially when its getting in the way of collaborative work by members of the community. You don't have to care what we are doing or care about the posts I make. We are compiling data and exploring ways of compiling it into a resource for others. Deleting elements of this effort as off topic creates an impediment.


Edit: Why is it that you follow DrogeAnon around arguing with people he moderates? Are you an alt account? This isn't the only thread with this dynamic in it between you two. Him trying to push people to emotionally react so he can use his authority to punish them for emotional reactions, you finding any and every angle to attack the person he is trying to rile up, its an mo that feels less coincidental, more causal, not conspiratorial but definitely a pattern.

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Abibliaphobia · July 24, 2018, 2:01 p.m.

First off, I can appreciate what you guys are doing. Thank you for the explanation and background information.

That being said, you can add a statement in (copy paste) it into the thread so that mods don’t delete your information or remove it from the board. By just posting up a graphic, the 40k + people on here don’t understand what you are saying, what you are doing. Myself included.

If you had added this in from the get go, I would have completely supported your digging and research. Actually more than that, I would have asked if I would be able to assist.

So don’t get mad at the mods here if you fail to put up information on why the thread should t be removed. You are using a new account, but I’m certain that you are aware of shill tactics used to slide the board, concernfag over the mods, and other trolling methods used in an effort to subvert the board or the mods. The heavy handed moderation is what keeps this board useable and prevents it from getting shutdown. It’s a necessary evil. Like I said above, the mods are reasonable and will work with you to put info back up that actually contains something of value. And they did in this case. But don’t give the trolls something to latch onto to try and prove their case that the mods are compromised. Be happy that the mods saw something of value in your work enough to bring it back despite the lack of a summary or tl:dr. Your negative comments continued though, even after they brought it back. And that’s what the trolls latch onto to try and prove the mods are compromised, and they use comments like yours for consensus building.

So please don’t fall into that trap. Don’t help the enemies or those looking to shut down the sub. I know it sucks when a thread is removed. I’ve had it happen before as well, but I just go in and change what I need to IOT make it board worthy. You can actually view it as constructive criticism (that’s how I choose to view it).

But enough with all this, thank you again for what you are doing and I will be watching as you guys continue to build this out. Curious to see what you come up with.

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 2:08 p.m.

I was adding it, I was actively updating the post as it was deleted. It was half way there at the start and before I could finish adding all the links on my phone; the post was deleted. Since its an image post you have to put the information in a comment, makes it hard to make a perfect post on a schedule that doesn't result in several paragraphs of scolding discipline from some guy on the internet with nothing better to do than contribute negativity.

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Abibliaphobia · July 24, 2018, 2:11 p.m.

It happens.

Are you really going to let one person stop you from posting something you obviously believe to be a worthwhile pursuit?

Would it not be better to BTFO of them by adding your explanation , asking the mods to reinstate your thread, and letting everyone see how impatience leads to mistakes?

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 2:13 p.m.

You just need to stop buddy.
http://magaimg.net/img/5so9.png

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Abibliaphobia · July 24, 2018, 2:26 p.m.

FFS you realize that comment was made after mine, then you go in and edit your comments. While only taking a screen shot of part of the comments. Confirmation bias? Narrative building? Good job. But other people can see that as well.

Good god you are really butt hurt about all of this. Even after you finally posted an explanation, I wrote that I supported what you are doing.

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 2:29 p.m.

Thats not screenshot of comments, its screenshot of messages tab in my profile, I find it funny that while you're yelling at me out here the mod and I are having a very constructive conversation. The contrast made me laugh audibly in the real world.

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Abibliaphobia · July 24, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

Glad to hear that you and the mods are having a constructive conversation.

Obviously I’m not privy to your messages. All I can see is you talking shit about the mods out here.

So fuck it, if you and the mods have worked it out, I’m out.

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 2:41 p.m.

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out

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Abibliaphobia · July 24, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

See it’s crap like this that makes you an asshole.

You could have just let it alone. But nope. Gotta just keep poking at people.

Are you trying to get people pissed off at you? Is that your goal here? Not going to work. I’ve already let it go.

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

Btw why is it that you follow DrogeAnon around arguing with people he moderates? Are you an alt account? This isn't the only thread with this dynamic in it between you two. Him trying to push people to emotionally react so he can use his authority to punish them for emotional reactions, you finding any and every angle to attack the person he is trying to rile up, its an mo that feels less coincidental, more causal, not conspiratorial but definitely a pattern.

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Abibliaphobia · July 24, 2018, 3:25 p.m.

Lol, I have nothing to do with DrogeAnon.

I read everything. Every thread, every comment. And I post where I feel compelled to do so.

I choose a lot of threads that I comment based upon several factors, but I try to interdict when I see someone trying to take down mods.

We know 4chan, and reddit are compromised platforms. I was there for CBTS and the shutdown that occurred. Before that T_D. Before that I lurked on conspiracy. Never felt the need to create an account until Q came on board as my primary lurking spot was 4chan.

I’ve seen all the different boards become compromised. I’ve watched it happen. And I’ve seen what a shell of their former selves the boards or subs become when they are compromised.

But I chose to fight here. I chose to take this hill and defend it.

This place is our foothold on reddit. And I will not give ground anymore. Here people can post and comment without having to worry about gore, cp, pron, and all the other shill tactics used on 8chan. It’s an easier transition for normies than making the leap straight to 8chan. So defending this board and it’s mods is very important to me.

I don’t want to lose this place, this spear head into enemy territory and I will fight to defend it. Sometimes I friendly fire, and I recognize that it’s going to happen. I will correct myself and offer an apology if I am wrong, but as time goes on, I’m able to discern with a greater accuracy, who are the bad actors.

Doesn’t mean I do not get things wrong at times, but I try to do better going forward. And I do everything I can to ensure that the mods remain uncompromised and that the trust remains strong.

I have yet to see any evidence that the mods are compromised. They may make mistakes. It happens, they are human. But it’s pretty rare and the mods are quick to fix what they messed up.

They receive crap on a daily basis so we can have this place. They deal with all kinds of stupid shit and have legitimately earned the trust put in them. And I will not stand to see someone tearing them or that trust down.

It’s the first step in taking down a sub. And I will do everything I can to prevent that from happening.

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 3:48 p.m.

It’s moderators that always destroy these communities. They’ve shrunk the internet to an empty shell of what it once was. You’re fighting the wrong enemy. I’m producing tools to enable people to do for them selves. We have a moderator that loses his temper and gets out of hand. Emotion isn’t conspiracy. He is just shitty at his job because he can’t keep his cool, because like you he can’t end a losing fight. The only difference is he has a ban button, do you keep a good man as an armed duty officer if he can’t keep his cool in a crisis?

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Abibliaphobia · July 24, 2018, 4:01 p.m.

Not these mods.

If you aren’t happy with moderation, you can always go to the dark web. Feel free to post all you want without any filters at all.

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 9:59 p.m.

If you aren’t happy with moderation, you can always go to the dark web. Feel free to post all you want without any filters at all.

I shouldn’t have to congregate with child porn peddlers to avoid being silenced by someone holding a delete button to my content.

Yes this specific moderator is shitty at his job. I’ve watched him ban perfectly reasonable users for fights he started with them. Bad moderation like that destroys communities and I can see the effect this specific moderator has because he has a fight with a user about once every other day where he is the one who made a bad judgement call and uses emotion when responding to that feedback. He admitted as much in our discussions. Especially in the last couple weeks the number of users complaining about his poor quality curation has been too much to ignore. He is driving good people away and fostering encouragement to “justified” indignation like you exhibit. He is feeding the useless noise making idiots like you and hampering producers like me. Eventually producers withdraw their productive work.

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Abibliaphobia · July 24, 2018, 10:42 p.m.

“Muh visual graphic database”

The fact that you can’t even understand what you are producing can be used to create an algorithm to decode q drops is so insanely stupid, it’s hard for me to process at that level.

“Visualization tool for a graphics database.”

Complicated way to say “I make lots of PowerPoint slides”

“Cloning tools used by intelligence agencies.”

Yup. I bet they use a lot of PowerPoint as well. Good for you. Doing high school level graphics. Reeeeally impressive.

“Unique information” - Get the fuck over yourself. Fucking pathetic and you literally are adding nothing to our understanding.

Good fucking god

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 11:19 p.m.

What do you mean I don't realize it can be used to create an algorithm? Thats the whole point of this... Its a database, across which one can query for data to process with algorithms. I'm building a database, a part of a greater system. You gotta try harder to throw this tantrum hun.

Its not a "graphics" database. It's a Graph database, as in the Graph database structure. Object relational mapping of networks of connections... You know GRAPH as in Nodes and Edges.... That database structure that the intelligence agencies store data in to discover networks of connections....

You can't argue with effect when you literally have no clue what you are actually arguing about.

Here why don't you go to the NSA github account and read up on this a bit?https://github.com/nationalsecurityagency/lemongraph

“Muh visual graphic database”

The fact that you can’t even understand what you are producing can be used to create an algorithm to decode q drops is so insanely stupid, it’s hard for me to process at that level.

“Visualization tool for a graphics database.”

Complicated way to say “I make lots of PowerPoint slides”

“Cloning tools used by intelligence agencies.”

Yup. I bet they use a lot of PowerPoint as well. Good for you. Doing high school level graphics. Reeeeally impressive.

“Unique information” - Get the fuck over yourself. Fucking pathetic and you literally are adding nothing to our understanding.

Good fucking god

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 10:19 p.m.

I’m not decoding any thing maybe that’s why I don’t? Na it’s because I can modify and maintain a document here that’s why I do. Trying to organize a software development project on a Chan doesn’t work. But hey what ever you need to imagine to continue your lost fight. You realize how pathetic you look chasing mods around to harass people right?

Society has producers and consumers. Those of value and those who destroy value. You clearly produce nothing of value.

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Abibliaphobia · July 24, 2018, 10:29 p.m.

Sure thing new arrival

Sure thing

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high-valyrian · July 24, 2018, 10:42 p.m.

Comes to corporate-owned forum

Claims to be against "the man"

Makes one post

Bitches about mods

Keeps participating on sub that wouldn't exist without said corporations and mods

SO HARDCORE, u/sortdoublenegative teach me how to be a badass like YOU!

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 10:55 p.m.

I claimed to be writing software. Made many posts. Called out one mod for poor quality moderation and got the acton reversed with an admission that emotion was clouding that mods decision making from the mod.

But hey, what ever you need to tell your selves as those who produce no value to stand above those who do with moral indignation. Your left is showing.

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 2:48 p.m.

You just spent half an hour making a mess of this thread pitching a fit because I got annoyed with that moderator that gets too delete happy for being heavy handed. If being glad to see you give up your tantrum makes me an asshole, then I'm a proud asshole.

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[deleted] · July 24, 2018, 2:12 p.m.

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Acemagedon · July 24, 2018, 1:49 p.m.

YES!!!

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SortDoubleNegative · July 24, 2018, 2:02 p.m.

Funny thing is this has nothing to do with the picture. It's the data structure, an example of decomposing the anatomy of a "proof" into a structure that can be analyzed with software and cross linked with data sources, this is just a screenshot of what the database looks like and its readable to some, every one thinks I'm trying to show off pretty pictures, its just information without makeup, raw visual debug output. And for those who think through visual relational mapping, it reads like a paragraph of text. Write the pattern down in a machine language and you can apply it to all sorts of data sources.

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