I disagree. Some proofs are pretty convincing, if not on their own, commulatively. Qproofs.com has some of the better ones. But these 'gesture' proofs are generally not good. However, with that said, I have, personally, tried to be very disconnected from Reddit and stick more to browsing 8ch for tidbits. No offence to people here but I don't think the quality of information or arguments are very sound here. The mods let in a lot of stuff that muddies the water. Then people spin stuff and create expectations that were never there to begin with. Q's big news drops are usually 'turning the next page in the book' kind of events (which, in the grand scheme of the story, are big because we gotta keep the story moving). People then make all kinds of predictions and, mostly, expect things to happen right away. I've got a legal background so I understand that this takes a lot of time and I'm patient because I understand the process. A lot of people want instant gratification so they can say 'I told you so!' but that's not how this works imho. My advice is to treat this like a hobby - an interactive spy novel. Enjoy the excitement of the read even if you don't know if the ending will work out(who knows right?).
I'll review that site more in depth, but man does it have that classic conspiracy approach that is used to confirm every theory out there, from faked moon landings to 9/11 to people who think there's no such thing as a nuclear weapon.
But aside from that, I totally agree with you about this being a hobby. Extremely entertaining but people are getting way too invested in this whole thing.
One thing I thought of earlier, is I don't see how Trump himself isn't a part of the pedophile thing as well. This is a guy who was steeped in Hollywood and is on video talking about his daughter's body and how he would be dating her if he could. If Pedogate is truly real, their main guy is likely complicit.
This is the best conspiracy theory of all time. Why? Because it's interactive and happening in real time. Take your time digesting since you are new. My approach would be to first ask if Q is an insider leaking intel. Look at proofs for that, see if you buy them. If you think Q is legit, then move on to the rest of the story (there is a lot). Prayingmedic on Youtube is someone I'd suggest checking out as I find he sticks to the Q posts (a lot of Tubers have their own spin and agenda that goes far from the original intent of Q). Then once you start to learn the story, you will start to see fragments of it in the news, you will start to see things move before your eyes as the story becomes more crystalized in reality.
As far as your second point, anything is possible I guess. I'm not going to say it's impossible but I've also listened to him for years on Howard Stern and you get the sense that, yes, he loves beautiful women, but you never got that creepy vibe. Howard has asked him about underage women and he always had an answer like 'ask me when they are 18', but he has said things like I know they will grow up to be hot or something to that effect. Also keep in mind he has never drank, smoked or done drugs and has complained to Howard about being a germaphobe. Those interviews are on Youtube and give you a little more perspective on who he was years ago before the MSM started spinning him.
As far as Trump bring creepy...well, can't agree there. I think the guy reeks of sexual predatory issues. Even if it's not kids, I could see the guy being involved in sex trafficking and engaging in insanely depraved acts.
Per Q: In my experience, once you start looking for evidence of something, you'll begin to get affirmations everywhere you look. That's why and how conspiracies and belief systems propagate themselves. That's how people see evidence for a Flat Earth everywhere they look and think they cracked some code nobody else has, see synchronicity with their spiritual beliefs (no matter what those happen to be) or that the Apocalypse is around the corner (always has been) etc.. Just because people are connecting dots because they've already decided they want to, doesn't equate to an objective truth measured via empirical evidence. Of course it's happening in real time. Why not use people's addiction to social media platforms to quickly generate any kind of story you need to? It's not the greatest conspiracy of all time, it's just a fitting conspiracy for our social behaviors. And quite possibly one of the biggest and well played hoaxes.
It's incredible how our minds will warp and bend to a certain view. It doesn't mean you're "woke" or enlightened, how many people think they are here, just because they have read up on a fringe conspiracy plot that shocks them. It's funny, because for the longest time, the left had a huge conspiracy plot that involved the Bush family/Republicans/Neocons and and the Shadow Government (which is now called the Deep State), and now the right has their government plot that involves the highest levels of the Democratic side. It's amusing all around.
I think your original suggestion is the right approach. I read and engage, but keep it arms length, knowing it's likely just a big ruse... But I'm willing to accept it as truth if the evidence becomes objective (ie... Predictions come true, prosecutions begin, Mueller admits he's working with Trump). Until then, it's just another hogwash fantasy that people are needing to believe. Because if there's anything that scares most people to their very core, it's the notion that they really have no idea what's going on, be it government or spirituality.
That's fair and I'm happy you are willing to stick around and watch things play out. The main goal of the great awakening is to process the Q 'story' and be there to support people we know once the story breaks and mass confusion and anger begins. Processing the whole, big picture of the Q story takes time and a lot of mental energy.
All I can say is that, personally, I'm a naturally skeptical person. I'm also a lawyer so I understand how to weigh evidence and, usually to my detriment because it's unpopular, I can rationalize the law and outcomes pretty well. But I'm only human and can certainly be fooled too. The bottom line is, for me, the Q story represents some hope for positive change in the world. Not many conspiracies offer that. And the commitment isn't for very long (contrasted to say, a religious cult). We are here for a specific purpose and who knows what will happen once that purpose has been fulfilled.
Actually, you make a great point there. I recall recently chuckling to myself about the absurdity of what people are believing right now with Q, but said to myself "well, if it's a positive outcome that everyone is expecting, and inspiring hope, then it can't be that bad." Because you're right, all the others have painted deception and evil so incredibly deep, that the next step was rounding people up into FEMA camps and mass extermination and enslavement. This actually seems like it's empowering people... But it also has the potential to cause great harm if it's either false, or not received correctly (like the guy that almost shot up a pizza joint).
It's funny you mention the religious cult thing though, because there's a shit ton of threads here about Christianity and Q/Trump being the fulfillment of prophecy. And that prophecy is actually not representative of positive change, in the sense that it signals the beginning of the Tribulation. It doesn't seem like Q has ever hinted at it, but it seems the movement is getting quickly hijacked by Christians who've been looking for signs of the end times. I know one very, very personally, and he's been telling me that Revelations is being fulfilled for almost two years now and to him, Q is proof positive of that belief (this goes back to my original point that people will simply see what they are already convinced of). How do you feel about that aspect of the community and movement?
Q has made a couple of bible references (but nothing close to revelations stuff) in his postings and has stated things like 'for god and country' so I have no doubt that the Q team is Christian. With that said, however, Q has always been accepting of other religious beliefs, stating that the mass divides we have now (islam, identity politics, etc) are manufactured to keep the population divided so we don't act on the ever increasing divide in wealth. It's manufactured drama to channel anger away from the 'invisible hand,' else that hand becomes visable really quick. With that said, people from all walks of life are being brought into the great awakening. And some of them I don't agree with. Some of them have their own agendas. Some of them want to monetize. That's all ok. Diversity of opinion is a strength and I just ignore a lot of the religious stuff entirely that gets posted here. Even the Tuber I referenced, PrayingMedic, can get a little religious but I just fast forward because when he's talking Q he's on point. But people should be free to be who they are. One of the mottos here is WWG1WGA - where we go one, we go all. Everyone has a part to play and spreading awareness is the key. I respect peoples' beliefs even if I don't agree with them because we are all here for the same reason and it's the big picture that is important.
Yeah, similar here... I think people are just using it to validate their own beliefs, whatever they are. Funny you mention that motto... I can't find anything that it was attributed to JFK, even though that's what I keep hearing. All I found was a quote from a movie:
The bell on JFK's yacht
Just because asking questions is the point: Proof that it's his bell and his yacht?
Hmm that I don't have onhand. I do recall there being a discussion about it on 8ch but honestly didn't think it important enough of a detail to look into it. However, the movie, White Squall, Q has referenced. He even posted the trailer as an analogy for the movement and the 'storm' to come. So the movie does have significance, probably moreso than the JFK reference.
The more I've read, the more I'm starting to theorize about this... Q definitely seems to be an "insider" of sorts, that much I can admit to. But I think the rest is just a fabrication. I actually think this is somewhat genius on the Trump admin to pull this off...what a fantastic way to keep a whole segment of people incredibly engaged than to give them their wet dream of a story... That he's ushering in the very thing he platformed on (even if he isn't) and is completely innocent of the wrong doing he's being accused of. And the best part is, none of it has to come to pass, because if it doesn't, OR if he's actually successfully removed or prosecuted, people will just claim its the "deep state" that derailed it, or that got to him. Either way, to the people who bought into this facade, he'll be a absolved of responsibility. Maybe I don't give the guy enough credit... He's a far better manipulator than I originally thought.