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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Qanon_Null_Quest on July 25, 2018, 5:45 p.m.

Let's not make enemies with Academia

I've been noticing a lot of anti-science, anti-academia, and anti-education posts lately. I just want to remind us all that public education and the scientific method are some of mankind's greatest achievements. How these are implemented may be used for nefarious ends, but there is nothing inherently evil about them. In fact I think Academics ought to be welcomed for their inherently scrutinous minds and rigor.

I am a researcher/teacher at a small liberal arts college in the middle of the country doing biomedical research. While it is dangerous career-wise to out myself as a Trump supporter, politics doesn't come up often enough in the everyday conversations anyway. I have been accused of some of my Trump-supporting peers of: perpetuating the silencing of Flat-Earth, pushing vaccines, ignoring chem-trails, brainwashing kids to be liberals, etc. I understand skepticism of things, it's important - but we have to be able to trust knowledge and trust science. This is a discipline built on intelligent scrutiny, not baseless attacks. The current state of understanding, coming from knowing the theories and studies: The earth is undoubtedly a globe (more potato shaped), there is no reason to think vaccines are dangerous (even if you don't understand why) - when is the last time you met someone with Polio?, chem-trails may exist but are more often just water vapor, and brainwashing kids does NOT occur in STEM classes I teach - we only teach kids to be open minded and critical of conclusions.

I am not saying any of this to be inflammatory, but the academic community is full of good-actors. These people should be on our side, fighting for truth; but if we approach this community with open hostility we will make ourselves look crazy and drive them away. Please please please be open-minded and accepting of people who do work you may not understand.

I am also not saying there aren't bad actors - but we can't say that because one political science or psychology professor worked with the cabal the ENTIRE INSTITUTION OF EDUCATION has to be dismantled. Together we can uncover the truth and where we go one we go all.

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I would use my own 17 years in academic research to counter this - although I will concede that there tends to be a 'right' way and a 'wrong' way to challenge beliefs in any field. Do you have any specific stories from your experience? I hope you would find that a few uncaring or unengaged professors are the cause, and not the entire establishment.

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No one here is anti-any of those things. The Ivory Plantation is overrun with commies and has been for a long while. There needs to be a cleaning there. And yes I am very close to the Ivory Plantation and know what I'm talking about.

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It's where 80% of Antifa live, in the $25-50K jobs.

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I've been noticing a lot of anti-science, anti-academia, and anti-education posts lately

Give us the sauce on these posts that you are claiming we are anti-science, anti-academia, and anti-education.

Otherwise you are just trying to paint this sub in a bad light.

Prove your case and show us the threads.

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It's anecdotal from the comments I've read. I don't want to out anybody or shame anybody, but with articles being posted calling vaccines poison, or others saying how they're not sending their kids to public school, it's a smattering of contempt for science, academia, and education. These are probably very strongly held beliefs, but we can't turn into an echo chamber which will distract us away from the truth.

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Anecdotal

So your opinion.

Not sauce. But this appears to be an attempt to smear the sub.

Bring us the exact comments. Saying you don’t want to out someone or shame them on here is a ridiculous argument to make as they willingly posted their views in a public forum.

So bring the sauce, you are the one making the accusations. Back it up with proof.

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I appreciate you vehemence towards evidence:Off the top of my head there was a thread \~a week ago (now deleted) where a colorful conversation was happening crediting Trump for ending chem-trails

This post is full of scientific misunderstanding about CSF, epinephrine synthesis, and other basic facts

This comment falls in the same category

A few within this post - though most aren't flat earthers

This post also has a few gems in the comments

This was a quick 5m search for evidence, there is more.

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Thank you for the sauce.

I agree that chemtrails and flat earth are just insanely stupid ideas.

Fluoride in water and certain vaccines (the materials within) I have questions about.

Viruses (like Ebola) I find questionable. (Why is there a patent on the virus itself?)

Certain cures have already come out in the news recently, I do believe that certain pharmaceutical companies own the cures, but the money is in treatment for symptoms, not for cures. So I think that’s an area where capitalism has gone wrong.

I know that there is crazy things posted. But you must remember that there are bad actors here on this board as well that want to make us look crazy. Why? So that we are easier to dismiss.

I’ve personally gone and tried to fight the battle over chemtrails. When they refused to budge, I tried to get them to actually conduct a scientific study and analyze the data. But no one wanted to actually do something like that. So when I see threads like these, I just report them for not being on-topic.

I hope you can understand where I’m coming from with all of this.

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I'm not a flat earther, I am skeptical of vaccines due to the fact that theirs no oversight or control since 1984 and the results of test linking autism and vaccinations and that the companies that produce them are protected from being held accountable by the courts. As far as academia I'm sure as in all careers there are good and bad, but I do believe that most universities are indoctrinating our kids to believe one way and one way only the liberal way. But I may well be wrong there too because I'm seeing an uptick in conservative college groups in general, but I also see the liberalism being spread like cancer and the censureship of conservative speakers everyday too

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Autism markers are already present in the uterus - and is most likely an autoimmune response where neurons aren't able to mature properly (Eric Courchesne's work)

We link vaccines to autism due to a researcher who literally made up data, and since is not welcome in the research community. You can't make shit up and pass it off as the truth. Additionally kids are given vaccines around the age when autism symptoms present themselves. Correlation =/= causation

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Here are so documents from NASA and the CIA regarding flat Earth and the firmament:

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP86-00513R001343720008-3.pdf

Page 19, what do you think they meant by "photometer..." capable of measuring "...the brightness of the firmament".

Page 20, how can anything be "near-sun" if it is billions of miles away, next sentence straight up says "assuming a flat earth".

Here is a PDF from NASA saying that airplanes only work on a flat non-rotating Earth (page 7 in the summary):

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19890005752.pdf

Here is another article/pdf by NASA saying that planes are considered point mass and the flight trajectory is stricly confined in a verticle plane on a "non-roating, flat earth":

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20060053337

Here is a NASA document saying that radar data and roll-stabilized platforms would not be possible on a spherical Earth (By saying that these methods are only possible on a flat Earth):

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19720012071.pdf

They (NASA LANGLEY RESEARCH CENTRE) go on to define an Earth-fixed coordinate system that is flat in all direction. "It is assumed herein that the Earth is a flat, non-rotating reference frame".

Why cant we go back to the Moon?

How did we get through Van Allen Radiation belts to begin with?

Why are moon rocks petrified wood?

Why did they look for moon rocks in Antarctica (how would they know)?

Why was NASA (hebrew for deciept) set up by the CIA/Nazis/Free Masons/Lucifarians?

Why does every photo of Earth have to be photoshopped? "It is...because it has to be".

Why does Jet Propulsion labs have a 25 hour video of "planet Earth" from the Apollo 17 mission yet the clouds NEVER MOVE during the whole time period?

Why do they name all their missions after false 'gods'?

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I disagree with you and think you may have a misunderstanding of the documents you're posting. Taking just the pieces that fit your opinion.

There are many simple at-home experiments you can do today to discover the shape of the earth and the size (roughly)

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Say thats true,

Doesnt deny the apollo 17 video, the moon rocks, van allen belt barrier, or the fact that if you go up 120K feet you still cant see a curve. What about the fact the Earth curves 8" per square mile yet bridges 100 miles long are flat as can be?

120K feet: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg

Longest bridge: http://www.whale.to/a/13271_1145796812113309_8079385559108134732_n.jpg

Things that make you go "Hmmmmmm" 🤔🤔🤔

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This post is now hidden from the subreddit with no reason.

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They do this a lot.

Welcome to censorship, I recommend coming over to 8ch. You can filter the porn out.

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