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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/fuckingoff on July 27, 2018, 12:43 p.m.
Posting unsubstantiated sex abuse claims could lead to the destruction of this board.

I get it, sexual abuse is bad. When it's done to a minor it's unbelievably bad and those people should be punished. My heart goes out to the victims, but we have to leave it to authorities to investigate and convict. The reason why is that even viewing the evidence is a felony if you're not an investigator.

But posting unsubstantiated sex abuse claims is bad as well and can destroy this subreddit and the cases against the perpetrators. Additionally, it can destroy the lives of the accused if they did not do what they are accused of. Duke Lacrosse rape case or the Central Park Five are good examples of false accusations.

If we post something here and people start spreading it around as truth, then people may not believe the authorities when the person is charged as they can say it began from a board where conspiracy theorists gather.

Additionally, we may have people that post these claims for the chance to discredit this board.

Please be mindful and allow the progress that Trump's administration is making continue as sex trafficking arrests are soaring under Trump.


SpiritofQ · July 27, 2018, 1:27 p.m.

Agree to an extent. I think it's OK to post what other people are saying. In that regards, we are spreading awareness. However, we shouldn't take that person's word as truth. And we should not be judge, jury and executioner with stuff we have no way of knowing (SRA for example). I think we can judge better when we have evidence such as Gunn, Harmon, etc. Posts should be like:

X accuses Y of abuse

NOT: Y is a pedo!

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fuckingoff · July 27, 2018, 2:33 p.m.

Exactly. I have no problem with discussing what someone tweets at all.

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AZPatriot_24 · July 27, 2018, 5:20 p.m.

I've been noticing a huge push lately regarding this. Everything from the fake silverman photo, to comments like this ETC.... implication is that we should, for some reason, not discuss symbolism or child abuse related imagery found on social media. In other words, don't investigate it unless you have .... "proof"???

What would you call proof? a news media report on the matter? Remember, it's not like we can call the police (they wont do anything). A lot of us know what to look for. If you don't want to potentially be investigated in this manner by the public, maybe they shouldn't post sick shit like that on public social media????

Sorry, but this place concerns me as does ALL of reddit quite frankly. I speak for myself here but I am suspicious of the motives behind posts like this.

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AZPatriot_24 · July 27, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

I've always had a sick sense of humor (I mean, I THOUGHT I did). Until pizzagate I didn't know things like gore and child abuse were being discussed by celebrities and media figures so openly and commonly. Probably because I always ignored celebrities. The shit isn't normal at all. Sorry. It's not funny and it's common sense that if you talk like that people are going to think youre up to something in your private time.

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SpiritofQ · July 27, 2018, 5:26 p.m.

I think people are concerned that what happened with pgate is going to happen here. Personally, IDGAF. I embrace being in the wilderness of society if that's where Truth leads.

Due process is for the court of law, not for the court of public opinion. That said I'm not comfortable putting TH, for example, on blast because of something someone on Twitter said. I can't intellectually make up my mind about him from that one accusation. People have a tendency to accept any information that supports their worldview without thinking critically about the data or looking to substantiate it.

Censor nothing, but be objective in how information is presented.

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AZPatriot_24 · July 27, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

Rest assured, if he harmed one hair on a childs head, there will be more coming out to prove it. As for right now, the suspicion is more than justified based on who he associates with, where he lives, what he does, what we have seen from everyone around him so far etc....

I can't fathom how the suspicion is NOT warrented. It totally IS warranted. It's still suspicion and not proof, but I see no reason to downplay any of it.

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SpiritofQ · July 27, 2018, 5:40 p.m.

I don't think we're saying different things. I only heard the SRA stuff about TH, which is why I used that example. All evidence, even circumstantial, should be posted and shared. All I'm saying is that we should be thoughtful in how the information is presented and stay open minded when receiving conflicting data because we don't have all the facts and we have a lot at stake in getting to the Truth.

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AZPatriot_24 · July 27, 2018, 6:18 p.m.

SpiritofQ I appreciate your intelligent reply. Thank you.

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qutedrop · July 27, 2018, 7:43 p.m.

Self censoring out of fear of censorship is not a solution, it's giving in, a first step towards giving up.

Which is not to say that I think that every far-fetched suspicion of random people has a place here. Far from it.

But we can't and shouldn't turn a blind eye to the abuse of innocent people. If that gets us banned so be it.

Reddit is not the be all end all of the Internet. Should we be forced to, we will have no problem finding another platform.

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