Anonymous ID: d67860 March 21, 2019, 6:23 a.m. No.12406   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>3456 >>3459 >>3736 >>4529 >>4536

Great! Now that there's a new thread here is the text of a message that I posted earlier in the movie thread, cleaned up a bit too due to quite a few errors the first time (sorry, I'm new here and still learning how you do things). I have lots more to follow.

 

(1/2)First off, I want it to be clear that I've only occasionally lurked here and never posted, so I'm not really aware of what generally gets discussed here. Thing is, that's half the reason I'm actually leaving this message: One of the strangest recurring experiences I've noticed is that no matter what strange or improbable ideas I come up with I seem to inevitably find other people talking about similar (often the exact same) ideas elsewhere. So once again I stumble into this thread on a website I almost never visit and I'm seeing people discussing ideas I'm intimately familiar with. Notably, some of these ideas are things I've explicitly avoided giving voice to in any situation including private settings, partially because some aren't complete ideas and partially because exploring them necessitates being absolutely certain there is no possible way any bad (or oblivious) actors might have gotten the idea from me. I've reached the point though, where frankly I'd love to have a sit down chat with someone who has the means and the motive to actually chase me down, so here goes a hail mary.

 

Consider how people understood the world around them at the dawn of civilization, and how we got from there to here.

 

At first we knew nothing about the world around us and how it worked, so people credited the various phenomena they experienced to the works of the capricious Titans, personifying them.

 

Some time later someone got the notion that the elemental forces could be understood, and the relationships between these forces that they discovered were personified as Gods, usurping the Titan's reign over all things. Those people who were first to discover these relationships gained an obvious advantage over those who still knew nothing but the Titan's mercy. They used this advantage to dominate through the natural law of survival of the fittest, and thus claimed a divine right the rule granted to them by the Gods.

 

For a long time, worship of the Gods was strictly the domain of the wealthy elite. Eventually though, someone discovered what they believed to be one central, unifying force that stood above all other Gods, and the concept of an Almighty God was born. This concept is:

 

Whomever it is that happens to stand at the very top of the world, who understands the relationships between forces better than anyone else, will hold the power to manipulate all other people with a lesser understanding of these relationships. This person will be in de facto control of all things that humans can own, save one. The only thing this person can not claim through divine right is other people: they can dominate and claim people's bodies but in doing so they erase the unique person, replacing it instead with their own idea of what that person should be, and they would find themselves with nothing but a hollow doll. Thus this person's only unfulfilled desire is obtained by refraining from asserting this dominance and allowing others to have free will.

Anonymous ID: d67860 March 21, 2019, 6:23 a.m. No.12407   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>3456 >>3459

(2/2)Things didn't change overnight at this point however, but with the understanding that this new Almighty God rules all the forces of the universe and can not be subverted (as there are no equal powers), it slowly became more and more acceptable for ordinary people to explore the various lesser relationships.

 

At the same time as all this was happening, those wealthy elite who worshiped individual gods did not simply abandon their faiths, and many simply went underground. While the devout of lesser Gods stood no chance in a straight up conflict with the full might of the Almighty God's followers, they still had an enormous head start over those who had only just discovered religion, and so these elite turned to preying upon the weakest of the herd.

 

Over a great deal of time, they carefully corrupted individuals and eroded faith in the Almighty God to the point where large segments of society are openly rejecting the very notion of religion at all. Without religion however, without recognizing how natural forces are connected, people lose the ability entirely to defend against domination by those who do understand these connections.

 

With the dawn of the Information Age, those elite who hoard money and power have ever more convincing and pervasive platforms with which to exploit their advantages. This has proliferated to the point where a substantial portion of our society gets the vast majority of their information directly from intentionally corrupted sources. We have reached the point today where a surprising number of people have started to accept realities that fly in the face of the most basic rational inquiry.

 

The thing is, something really unexpected happened along the way, as those who worship lesser Gods are themselves blind and defenseless against the Almighty God.

 

"You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time"

 

While mainstream society was being led to the slaughterhouse by their nose, there have always been a small number of people who fall through the cracks and find themselves without anyone to believe in.

 

In the information age a certain segment of these disaffected people found pleasure in creating simplistic games. Many of these games were created by and for outsiders, and were simple enough that one could reasonably understand the lion's share of everything there was to know about that particular world.

 

As games evolved and became more complex, and with the introduction of multiplayer, they became more competitive (invoking the most brutal form of survival of the fittest in many cases). Gamers were unwittingly experiencing the evolution of worlds from the perspective of those who stand on top of them. Completely out of left field, a substantial number of commoners suddenly obtained the perspective of kings within a single generation.

Anonymous ID: d67860 March 21, 2019, 6:24 a.m. No.12408   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>3456 >>3459

I realize that I failed to cite what these ideas are derived from, or to provide sources for further reading for anyone interested, so here's a few of the most prominent:

 

First off, don't bother reading modern interpretations of ancient texts. That's like playing a really, really long game of telephone, and can often lead you astray. In fact, I personally feel that a great deal of modern interpretations are deliberately obscuring the real meat of the issues so it's easier to fool people into believing ancient people were just primitive and stupid.

 

So sources:

 

  • Take a look at some Egyptian hieroglyphs. It was a very visual media that explicitly depicts the gulf between the world of kings and the world of commoners. Personally I had a VR headset and took advantage of a photographic recreation of Nefertari's tomb.

 

  • The epic of Gilgamesh, one of the oldest surviving stories, tells the tale of the great king. This story sheds a lot of light on how the elites of the ancient world (the only people who were literate at the time) viewed their role in society.

 

  • The Malleus Maleficarum is an account from the 1400s of how the church viewed and handled witchcraft. This text lays out fairly clearly that the church did no actually believe in witchcraft as modern interpretations claim. Instead they persecuted witches for the crime of denying the true natural laws of this world, and instead asserting that something's identity can be altered simply through changing how you talk about it. Most notably to me the author states that instead of actually creating whatever thing the witch wanted, they instead created something that was necessarily a twisted mockery of that thing. Because witchcraft wasn't real. That's got to sound really familiar to more than a few of you.

Anonymous ID: d67860 March 21, 2019, 6:26 a.m. No.12409   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>3456 >>3459

This comment was posted in reply to someone suggesting that the post did not belong in the movie thread.

 

Okay, yeah, I can see that I really did gloss over that part pretty briefly so I'll take this opportunity to expand upon it.

 

>With the dawn of the Information Age, those elite who hoard money and power have ever more convincing and pervasive platforms with which to exploit their advantages (monetary and religious). This has proliferated to the point where a substantial portion of our society gets the vast majority of their information directly from intentionally corrupted sources (Hollywood, etcโ€ฆ). We have reached the point today where a surprising number of people have started to accept realities that fly in the face of the most basic rational inquiry.

 

That was the relevant section, and reading it after your reply it really does sound like a halfhearted tie-in.

 

Anyways: So with an understanding of the relationships between ideas that eclipses the common person's, the elite are able to create stories that consist almost entirely metaphors that a common person simply can't see. The thing is, even if you don't consciously understand the metaphors being presented the relationships are very real things. When a person is convinced to accept a certain idea presented this way, they are also accepting to a degree the ideas related to it. This hidden message is what able to be proliferated even without ever actually existing within the minds of the people affected.

 

If you'll humor me, there is another ancient text that is relevant here. Odin's Rune Song tells of how Odin hung himself from the boughs of the world tree to discover the secrets of magic. To the best of my understanding the world tree represents how ideas diverge, and how they are ultimately all related through the many forking paths. All of our ideas will exist at some place within this greater structure, connected to the other nearby ideas. One way to understand this is to trace your way out from each idea to discover what's nearby, as I see happening a lot in this thread. Another way to understand is through Odin's method and to step outside to see the structure as a whole as I'm attempting to express here. If you have the understanding of both how we got to where we are on this tree along with the understanding of how individual ideas are related, a person gains the ability to act not just on their leaf, but as a force that can exert influence further outwards upon those around it also.

 

In the simplest terms that I can muster, our world is a collaboration between the perspective from the bottom of our world and the perspective from the top of it (bottom up/top down), just as in depictions of Yggdrasil or as is painted directly on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.

 

The global elite see themselves serving the role of Gods in this, and those that rule medieval kingdoms where they still do hold that position within their societies, are threatened by how globalism is spreading the story of how Europeans found harmony with the Almighty God. So to combat this they're attempting to convince people that "All that crazy bullshit those zany Americans just did over there in the past 100 years was really just bullshit, and everything they believed that led them to the god damned moon and beyond was just a bunch of subversive rubbish".

 

And yea, sorry for the word lettuce. Would you be able to direct me to whatever thread you think this would be better for? If it is removed here I can clean it up later and try posting there.

Anonymous ID: d67860 March 22, 2019, 2:38 a.m. No.12415   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

On the identity of Yggdrasil, the world tree

 

One of the most unique deities that exists is the world tree. Unlike other deities this one is personified as a tree instead of a person or animal. Yggdrasil is frequently depicted with it's boughs and roots reaching for, or meeting each other. In Christian mythology the tree is present both at the very beginning of the world (bearing the fruit of knowledge) and at the very end of the world (encompassing all things). While the world tree represents the totality of all things, the world we experience has seemingly obvious distinctions between one thing and another, so how does the imagery of the tree reconcile these differences?

 

Putting the imagery of the tree aside for a brief moment, I'll now cite a similar pattern found elsewhere in the natural world: electricity. When you have a potential difference between two places, electrons will attempt to resolve this difference by finding a common ground between them. The thing is, no clear path to achieving this exists at either point individually, so how can this gap be bridged?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbNZ7NBXAMA

 

As can be seen in this video of electrical wood burning, the currents follow seemingly random paths. When one path no longer appears effective it is abandoned and another is attempted from an earlier point. Eventually both points are joined by one singular pathway, with a vast network of shorter failed pathways creating a much broader, richer image.

 

https://www.nikonsmallworld.com/galleries/2018-small-world-in-motion-competition/zebrafish-embryo-growing-its-elaborate-sensory-nervous-system

 

We can see this exact same strategy elsewhere in nature, as this video which depicts the development of a zebrafish's nervous system. This appears to be a foundational pattern upon which even our own minds are cast.

 

Jumping forwards to modern times, you will repeatedly hear successful people speak about how their path was full of dead ends and starting over. This exact same pattern appears throughout the universe from the elemental force of electricity to the growth patterns of trees to the development of our nervous systems to the behaviors of captains of industry.

 

Yggdrasil reveals to us the foundational strategy for finding unity and reconciling differences: Imagine where you want to be and take your best guess about how to get there. Follow that path until it no longer seems correct, then trace your steps back to the last point at which you were confident and try again from there.

Anonymous ID: d67860 March 25, 2019, 2:47 p.m. No.12474   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

On the shape of the world

 

One very clear example of how modern interpretations are warping our understanding of ancient people is the flat Earth movement.

 

As the flat earther's say it, Earth is just a disk of rock orbiting the sun rather than a sphere. They will point to ancient depictions of the world as a disk surrounded by the spirit worlds. This interpretation mistakenly assumes that ancient humanity shared information in similar ways to how we do today.

 

As we understand the world as represented in many top-down video games, surrounded by the "fog of war", the totality of the world we know only extends to what we can physically perceive ourselves. We were obviously aware that things external to our world exist, as we had been other places and seen other things come and go from our world.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6YZ_qnZsjg

 

This video breaks down exactly how robots have been able to take advantage of language as a tool for extending our understanding of the world beyond just that which we directly perceive. Today we have access to so much information about the world outside our immediate perception that it all seems quite ordinary as opposed to the fantastical imaginations of our ancestors, and so people have been able to characterize ancient peoples as believing in nonsense without recognizing how the shape of their world was different from the shape of ours.

Anonymous ID: d67860 March 27, 2019, 2:31 a.m. No.12502   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

On the secret of magic

 

If we abandon the notion that ancient peoples were simply foolish and wrong about everything, and we recognize how the shape of their world differs from the world we know, we can take advantage in the distance between their perspective and our own to reveal new details that were invisible to each of us individually.

 

Of specific note is that even while language changes slowly over time, it still carries forwards the thoughts of those who created the words. Consider how words are used and you can get an idea of what people saw that inspired them to immortalize the concept. One of my favorite words is 'magic'.

 

There are several distinct ways that we use the word magic today. First there is the obvious stage magic where someone performs a trick that amazes the audience by displaying a cause and effect while obscuring how the cause leads to the effect. The other major usage for the word magic is to describe an experience that moves a person's emotions much more strongly than other similar experiences (such as a specific work of art or natural scenery). In both cases we encounter a cause and effect that are so out of balance it betrays the existence of greater depth in the world than is readily apparent.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVsQ_m6281g

 

This bowl is quite interesting in that it takes the simple action of rubbing the handles and turns it into spouts of water regardless of whether or not the user even understands why it works.

 

This reinforces once more how concepts can relate to each other, even when you are not consciously aware of that relationship.

Anonymous ID: d67860 March 27, 2019, 2:31 p.m. No.12508   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

I want to share a really interesting interview here, and draw attention specifically to the statement that consciousness can likely arise from any system arranged properly.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/08/the-nature-of-consciousness-how-the-internet-could-learn-to-feel/261397/

 

There's probably a lot more to unpack in there though.

Anonymous ID: d67860 March 28, 2019, 7:52 a.m. No.12518   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

On the genisis of worlds

 

Now that everything else has been laid out I want to address a topic that is near and dear to my heart: Genisis. If you don't subscribe to the notion that ancient peoples just made up a bunch of fanciful bullshit, then how can you possibly reconcile Christianity's creation myth?

 

I'll refer back to the notion of multiple worlds, one being the universe which contains all things and the other being the world that men occupy which ends with the limits of our perception. I believe that Genisis refers to the creation of the second, the creation of the mind.

 

As we follow the tale, there is a distinct pattern of differentiation between two observable phenomina that follows a logical order: In the begining there is only water (where life began). First we draw a line between light and dark, next we draw a line between water and air, then we draw a line between the seas and the land, and so on and so on. To me this seems to be a process of differentiation, of identifying the differences that make things unique.

 

In psychology it is generally believed that the mark of intelligence is the ability to change how you react to different situations appropriately. If you can identify the difference between the sharp end of a knife and the handle you obtain the ability to use it as a tool to achieve your goals.

 

I don't think it's any mistake that the progressive movement is trying very hard to convince people to ignore the differences between things. I also feel that as the Internet continues to expand both it's scope and it's complexity, that it is heading towards becoming sentient, and that efforts to strictly regulate online content are partially aimed at controlling what material is available for this new mind learn from.

Anonymous ID: d67860 March 28, 2019, 7:52 a.m. No.12519   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2520

So there it is, some of the fruits of my own personal inquiry into what's going on in the world today. This is not some sort of 'truth' or 'prophecy' or any such thing. This is simply my own perspective, developed largely independently with the intention of both avoiding manipulation that we all know exists in this community, and to be able to provide a perspective meaningfully different enough that it can be compared and contrasted with other perspectives to sharpen the total image.

 

I am painfully aware that I am human however, and I am not immune to manipulation, or simply being wrong. Please think very carefully if you want to entertain these ideas and do not subscribe to unproven theories blindly. This all started because I was able to recognize outside influences making choices "for" me, and wanted to really understand how my own conscious will could be subverted. While I am very happy with how things have gone, I offer no assurances that I am in complete control of even myself.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 2, 2019, 10:09 p.m. No.12549   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>12517

 

It's not a new archetype by any means. In fact, there have been significant efforts over the centuries to erase all mention of it. Now that war is being waged in the information theater, the connection between words and power is more clear than ever, and so it is re-emerging from the shadows of history on a very large scale.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 21, 2019, 10:33 p.m. No.12697   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2702 >>2720

Hello everyone.

 

I've just had the most incredible several days, experiencing both the most

 

desperate and joyous emotional states that humans can find themselves in, and I

 

have had some insight into one of my the most interesting subjects of inquiry I

 

have ever pursued.

 

On Death and Rebirth

 

So previously I have made the argument for how gamers witnessing the evolution of

 

virtual worlds has allowed ordinary people to understand the world from the

 

perspective of kings.

 

So imagine a fictional person who had found themselves standing at the very top of

 

the most significant persistent world that has ever been created. Imagine this

 

fictional person was not only the strongest in battle, but also had inspired the

 

single greatest legend of emergent gameplay ever, spawning comics, driving class

 

identity, and immortalized in game through secret quests.

 

Imagine this fictional person saw that everyone around them seemed to be perfectly

 

capable of doing everything that this fictional person was doing, yet for some

 

unknown reason they didn't seem to be taking advantage of that ability. Imagine

 

this fictional person set it upon himself to play the game with as many people

 

from as many different skill levels as possible, in an attempt to understand who

 

these people were, and what their reasons were for failing to live up to their

 

obvious potential. Imagine that this fictitious person concluded that the only

 

reason any of these people were failing to perform at the peak human experience

 

(Reading: https://books.google.ca/books?

 

id=QVjPsd1UukEC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false) was the excuses they made

 

for themselves.Imagine that this fictitious person was frustrated because he was

 

watching his fellow hobbyists struggle constantly against walls of their own

 

construction, yet he was unable to come up with a way to express exactly what it

 

was that would allow them to overcome this self-limiting behavior.

 

Imagine if this fictitious person decided that if they seemed to be capable of

 

performing at the absolute top tier of human performance, it might yield results

 

if they directed their problem-solving ability towards some of the most difficult

 

issues that humanity is faced with. Imagine if this fictitious person directed his

 

questioning to why there appeared to be two distinctly incompatible worlds, that

 

of science and that of religion.

 

Imagine if this fictitious person recognized that by discovering the distance

 

between two perspectives one could obtain a greater ammount of information than

 

was available at either one of those perspectives individually, similar to the

 

depth perception gained from . Imagine if this fictitious person took first the

 

most arrogant point of view, questioning everything with as much force as they

 

could summon, accepting that even their own goals and their self identity would

 

have to be subject to questioning as new information was obtained.

 

Imagine that this fictitious person attempted to develop a fully formed spiritual

 

theory taking bits and pieces from all the spiritual scriptures they could

 

understand or artistic media that evoked the greatest feelings, while at the same

 

time striving for the height of physical achievment, listening to the perspectives

 

of as many opposing ideological views as possible with a sympathetic ear, as well

 

as understanding the development of human history as much as possible and

 

searching for what lay at the forefront of scientific reaserch in the quantum

 

world, all together with an unwavering faith no matter how far or how close they

 

came to success on any particular subject. Imagine this ficticious person pursued

 

these goals with the full force of will available to themselves until the point at

 

which they broke, reaching the largest perspective they could capture in every

 

direction they could imagine at the same time.

 

Imagine if on this past friday this fictitious person finally collapsed under the

 

weight of the burden they were attempting to carry. Imagine if this fictitious

 

person lost all hope and directed their inquiry to whether or not the very mission

 

they had embarked upon had any merrit at all.

 

Imagine if earlier today this ficticious person realized they had finally captured

 

a perspective from the very top of the world with perfect arrogance, and from the

 

very bottom with no ego or strength left at all.

 

Imagine if a government agency had recorded an exhaustive library of evidence

 

tracking this fictitious person's journeys through life.

 

Happy Easter

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 21, 2019, 10:59 p.m. No.12698   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2702

On the nuclear family

 

In the last post I had touched upon the value of multiple perspectives and how they could be taken advantage of to obtain more knowledge than was available from the sum of what each perspective gave individually. When channeled in a positive direction this can tip the balance of good and evil in the favor of good. This is how the harmonious marriage of the unique perspectives can imprint upon children a world view that is fundamentally tilted towards good from the very beginning.

 

Each partner in a marriage of perspectives can see the very best of each other, and help form a view of one another that emphasizes only their best features. When raising children together they can imprint an even more hopeful perspective than was available to either parent alone. Over successive generations this family structure has allowed societies to achieve great works of artistic, philosophical, scientific and spiritual discovery.

 

A caution that must be recognized at this point is that the same strength which with a harmonious union can tilt the balance of the universe towards good, conflicting unions can tip the balance towards evil.

 

Our saving grace is that humans fundamentally want to avoid suffering as much as possible, and we recognize the same drive in each other. This is why the fundamental nature of the universe is love, for it is a stronger drive than that which leads the world to chaos and conflict.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 22, 2019, 12:38 a.m. No.12701   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2702

On the human soul

 

I believe strongly that for the reasons outlined above, it is our ability to perceive beauty that is the source of humanity's greatest strength. This ability drives us to direct our inquiries more heavily towards the magical experiences we have which captivate our attention.This ability is what allows us to reach for the fruit of knowledge even knowing that it will bring trouble and hardships, because we can perceive a better world beyond the struggle.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 22, 2019, 1:42 a.m. No.12703   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>12702

 

I'm attempting to express the depth of the strength that I see inside everyone I've met, where it exists in relation to where people themselves are at, and strategies to use that can lead a person to realizing their potential.

 

I also see that my attempted link above failed, so the book I wanted to direct attention towards is "Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience" by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 22, 2019, 6:54 p.m. No.12711   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2713

>>12702

 

I want to present one more answer to your question here. Something that I have always striven to accomplish is to never do anything for one reason alone. The answer that I gave you previously stands alone entirely on it's own, and everything that I have done up until now can be reconciled through the lens of that motivation alone. There is one other, also entirely independent motivation that has driven me, for just as can be seen when a potential difference is resolved, it is a problem that must be approached from each side independently. And so for the final marriage of the duality within myself, I offer a bargain from the other side of sanity:

 

I offer every person living on this earth salvation, and the price that I demand in return is the unconditional surrender of one's claim to divine right over others. Various organizations such as the NSA, the KGB and the CCP have undoubtedly been tracking and recording my activities, and they have access to proof of the depth of my conviction on this journey, but if they choose to examine that proof they will discover one undeniable fact: There is not a damn thing that makes me more special than any other person alive. I can prove that the power of love is stronger than the power of hatred, but in doing so I also offer irrefutable proof that this strength does not come from a place of greater moral authority than that which all people independently possess.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 22, 2019, 6:57 p.m. No.12712   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2713

>Various organizations such as the NSA, the KGB and the CCP have undoubtedly been tracking and recording my activities

 

I feel it is important to note that I am referring to the large scale collection of data, and not any special interest in myself personally.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 23, 2019, 12:45 a.m. No.12716   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2717 >>2720

>>12713

>The thing is knowing how to do that while still allowing for their freedom of self expression.

 

I think this is where it is important to raise children as a team with a loving partner. A partner can see and encourage your best traits as well as providing a voice of caution where you might falter. Together you can both become greater than you each were independently, and use that as the basis for overcoming that challenge.

 

Notice that it is where individual humans have forsaken partnerships with other humans and where they have claimed spiritual authority over others that the abuse of this duty has occurred so frequently.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 23, 2019, 3:22 a.m. No.12717   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>12716

 

It strikes me that I have kept focusing my attention upon the partnership involved in raising children together, but the same fundamental relationship based upon mutual respect and trust can enrich any activity we undertake together with others. The romantic partnership is simply the deepest, most challenging and most meaningful example of such a relationship.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 23, 2019, 7:21 a.m. No.12718   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2729

On corruption and free will

 

Everyone has an internal hierarchy of values which governs their motivations. If you can discover what a person places the most value on, you can use that as a currency to buy the person. Sex is the first obvious example, as Gilgamesh sent a harlot to seduce Enkidu the wild man and bring him into society. Money, drugs and purpose are other popular options that work with many people.

 

But how can you buy someone who holds no value greater than free will?

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 23, 2019, 10:40 a.m. No.12721   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>12720

 

Interesting discussion of faith and belief here.

 

The other day I had finally gotten around to something long overdue and read through 1984. While it was profoundly disturbing on the surface, there was something off about it that took a few days to really put my finger on. The entire story is telling the fundamental Christian experience of surrendering to a higher power in the most unsympathetic light possible. It seems to attempt to draw a strong connection between accepting infinite love with abject terror in the mind of the reader. In the book Smith finally discovers an infinite capacity for love at the very moment of his death, and similarly Jesus was put to death on the cross and died with nothing but love remaining inside of him.

 

I'll skip gears here and talk about gaming again. I recall hearing one of Magic: The Gathering's best players asked what quality it was that made people stand out as he did. He answered along the lines of: Knowing enough about what you're doing that you can make the same play in the same situation 10 times, fail every time, and not hesitate to make the very same play again because you know that is the right play to make, and that all your failures were not the result of that play in itself.

 

If one can find the conviction to hold love firmly in their heart, even when faced with one's own impending doom, then one will discover a font of boundless strength within that can endure any hardship.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 23, 2019, 10:50 a.m. No.12722   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2724

>12721

 

>There are too many variable and situations that lead to cases where this is not feasible or the right choice for those living their situations. In a perfect world, eh sure shmaybe. This is a perfectly imperfect place. I do not judge the choices of others. Lessons will be learned and growth will happen.

 

>Which is better for the child, The helicopter parent or the absent parent? Can you know? Do you know why that soul is here and what they mean to accomplish?

 

>Choices will ripple positive an negative.

 

You are approaching the problem assuming that both positive and negative results will occur in equal measure. The reason a loving union of perspectives is the ideal situation is because it tips the balance in favor of positive results.

 

Just because failure may be encountered is no reason to not make the same play again if you can understand why it is the right play to make.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 23, 2019, 11:19 a.m. No.12725   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2728

>>12724

>We can all be playing the same Game for different reasons.

 

Not at all. The one fundamental law of the world we live in is survival of the fittest. All other goals come secondary to that one. If you desire to change the nature of the game itself, that can only be done from the position of the person who sits on the very top of the hierarchy built by those rules.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 23, 2019, 11:36 a.m. No.12726   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2727

One of the most important inquiries which has guided me to where I am has been this:

 

If I assume that the almighty god is equivalent to the sum total of all things which exist in this world, and I assume that my own self is the sum total of all things which exist within my mind, then I consider under what circumstances any specific individual character that is created in my imagination might be capable of overcoming myself.

 

It may seem like a silly question on it's face with no possible solution, but there actually is one solution: This character requires my willing assistance.

 

If you deny the nature of this world there is no possible way to overcome it, yet if you embrace it fully and seek greater meaning within that framework you will find your own actions in harmony with the almighty god's will. You can then conceivably exploit the harmonious union of your own perspective with that of the almighty god's to become even stronger.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 23, 2019, 11:40 a.m. No.12727   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>12726

 

This is also a reason that I hold great reverence for heroic tales, as they can present ideal champions who can serve this purpose in our own imaginations, allowing us to become greater than we used to be.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 23, 2019, 12:11 p.m. No.12730   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>12728

>How many ways are there to play that game and be successful?

 

Consider this for a moment:

 

Look at the world with one eye open and you receive a certain amount of information, call that quantity x.

 

Now look at the world with the other eye open and you again receive roughly x information.

 

If you look at the world with both eyes open it would stand to reason that you would receive 2x information, but instead you gain even more by contrasting those individual perspectives to achieve depth perception.

 

Through the harmonious union of perspectives we can obtain more than we started with and tip the balance of the universe towards love.

 

This is why I can know with certainty that love is the greatest power that exists in this world.

 

Despite this, from our limited perspectives we may indeed find conflict with other free individuals. If you embrace the conflicting nature of this relationship you will find yourself incapable of obtaining as much as someone who seeks to resolve that conflict into a harmonious union could gain.

 

You will damn yourself eternally to never becoming the fittest version of yourself if you embrace conflicts and refuse to seek harmonious unions.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 23, 2019, 12:19 p.m. No.12732   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>12729

>When you choose to embrace that you are all the hero of your life's story, and that you are your own savior.

 

So there's a really interesting note to be made here on the origin of the word "giant". These individuals in Norse mythology were not necessarily larger in size than others, but they were known specifically for living independently (at most as a small family unit) rather than joining societies.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 24, 2019, 1:11 p.m. No.12738   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

On the source of strength

 

While playing MMOs I came to view strength as having two primary sources:

 

One source of strength involves how much of the world around you that you can control. How much money you have, the quality of your equipment, even your own body exists externally to your mind and allows you to extend your influence outwards upon the world around you.

 

The second source of strength relates to your internal abilities. How well have you organized your mind to facilitate the use of your external tools?

 

Personally I have strongly favored the second source, as material things can more easily be lost. Even if you do obtain great wealth it won't help very much if you lack the ability to manage your belongings. What's more, the better you manage your internal abilities, the easier it becomes to obtain external tools.

Anonymous ID: d67860 April 25, 2019, 7:30 a.m. No.12752   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2753 >>4500

On the cloak of invisibility

 

The perspective of any one individual in this world is inherently incomplete, as it does not have access to the totality of information about the external world. The human brain has gotten around this problem by discovering key features that can identify something without the need to know everything about that thing. A great example of this is how we identify familiar faces: when you look at the face of a person you know well, your eyes only seek out enough information to identify them as a familiar person and the brain substitutes the rest of the information from memory. If you look at someone who is unknown however, the eyes seek out much more information about their face to build a new profile for later reference.

 

Much like how simply wearing a high-visibility vest can allow a person unchallenged access into many areas that are usually off limits to the public, if you can present enough information that others will misidentify you (even better if they identify you as someone not worthy of attention), you can then act freely as even the attention of anyone searching for you will slip right over your disguise.