Just a repost of the above, to keep eyes on this thread :)
https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1538095.html#q1538282
A sends:
The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)
http://pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5
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COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum
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Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation
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Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist
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How to Spot a Spy (Cointelpro Agent)
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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression
See them all here https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1561031.html#q1640730
Good afternoon gentlemen (and ladies),
I come from other parts of the internet, and exposing shills, bots, socks, the technology they use and who uses them was a thing I used to do, and I will share my discoveries:
1) Image based captcha don't actually work on modern tech as most bot accounts have smart OCR systems that can detect even 'pretty bad' images and answer the captcha - the one you use for this board wouldn't even stop them (as you've discovered)
2) Text based questions can be answered by one of two systems:
2a) The operator 'adds the answer', or
2b) An AI inference engine tries to 'guess' or 'interpret' the question (EG What is 2 + 2? 4, for example)
3) You can thwart most bots by having a question/answer that changes on a daily basis (with no reuse) on top of a captcha, this can impede users however.
4) Bot operators are called 'handlers', and they can operate between 2 to 100 accounts. The average is between 15 to 30.
5) The software they use is commercially developed, although it appears some are homebrewed applications that run in Python (possibly to pair up with TensorFlow?)
6) Building a forum bot is incredibly easy: Python with mechanize library and BeautifulSoup (you might want to consider fighting fire with fire).
7) Governments, Corporations and Political groups all use bots. A prime example of corporations is the Net Neutrality spam. They use it to astroturf grassroots movements and artificially incite aggression/action/results (think Arab Spring).
8) Organisations confirmed: IDF (both professional and hired students), Mossad, CIA, NSA (Edward Snowden admits as such), parts of MI5, US Airforce, The MoD (specifically: the Army), MI6 (minor role), FBI (usually to honeypot/entrap/snare), GCHQ, FSB and whatever the KGB's replacement is. Democrats are more active with social engineering/bots/socks, Republicans are playing catch up. British politicians have yet to catch on, it seems. Pretty much every corporation does it - usually they send in their employees to write positive blurbs or counter-criticism (look at any critical article about Microsoft, Red Hat, systemd etc).
9) It costs a lot of money, but gets cheaper with automation and AI.
10) Handlers can't be in more than two places at once (mentally speaking: the bots log/alert the replies), and the more people simultaneously engaging them from different places (as their 'differing' accounts), the better as it overwhelms their responses and often they make mistakes.
11) Their bots are often 'tuned' to specific keywords and are capable of bulk-scanning threads (usually the last page to check for responses). If you mess up the keywords and don't mention them directly, the alert system appears to fail - they will get notified by other bot handlers however if it's something they've missed, and the new keyword will be added.
12) Some bot/sock accounts talk amongst themselves. Usually so one sets up, the other introduces information.
13) They will strawman arguments - present a weak front under one account, attack it with another. Don't accept or try to defend weak arguments.
14) The different groups have different agendas, from what I can see:
IDF: Solely concerned with topics that directly relate to israel, berating palestine (treating palestinians as non-human etc), attacking iran, tackling anti-semitism
US agencies: Whatever the current US politics are, always pro-military
UK agencies: Whatever the current UK politics are, always pro-British, sometimes pro-US (they have minor disagreements)
Russia: Usually anti-agency/anti-US/UK establishment, will bring up topics that advantage them (Syria, Palestine, US abuses of power)
Corporations: Anything directly relating to them (usually they target criticism)
Political groups: Shilling in favour of their political agenda/who they want you to vote for/attacking other parties.
I hope my observations are of some use. If I think of more I'll get back.
https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1561031.html#q1643359
Thought of more that might be relevant:
1) Advanced software (like in HBGary) will sometimes try to create 'backstories' or 'multiple accounts' across social media outlets - this is to make the poster seem more legitimate than they actually are. The one thing they can't easily create is 'history' (especially once outed). Some bot/sock accounts - in rare exceptions - are 'sleeper accounts', that are created historically some time earlier that might be dragged into bigger fights (so they appear more legitimate to a skeptical audience).
2) They utilise ISPs or systems that give high IP rotation (EG 'mobile', Verizon Business, satellite, etc) - essentially IPs that 'muddy waters' and make it difficult for source attribution. Proxies are less common but do get used. Normal posters tend to have consistent IPs or ISPs in contrast.
3) Handlers will target what are known as 'leaders' in social media circles. These are the people who are influencing the rest (Q an example, but also board owners, admins, that sort of thing - anyone who has a 'big presence'). The goal is to disrupt the leaders in order to disrupt the followers. They may also try to insert 'counter' leaders (who emulate the main leader in some way) who are basically like 'mimicry' style leaders. The counter to this is for everyone to independently think on their own terms rather than a 'leader-follower' network.
4) Government level, and some high level corporation (think military industries type shit) have what's known as 'writing analysis' tools. This allows them to unmask anonymous posters on the internet (kinda like how you identify shills based on how they act/behave - except automated). Ironically this can be used against scripted bots if you have someone smart enough to build your own version.
4a) The analysis tool, from what I can gather works on the following:
Post length (average length of posts).
Unique/key words (British people use different words to Americans, for example, but also overusing specific memes)
Unique phrases/sentences (you might have a common phrase or sign-off)
Spelling error rate (smarter people are more literate, for example)
Other match methodology that I'm not familiar with
5) A huge tip-off for bots is if they operate 'around the clock'. Normal people - if unemployed - can only really work for one 24 hour segment at most (sleep deprivation kicks in), and at normal, 12 hours. Bots often will be up/posting with a four hour gap or less between posts (ID by IP, post content and spacing). Contrast workplace/homeplace IPs (anyone posting from home then work needs at least two distinct ISPs).
6) Another handler tip-off is they will either claim to be a student (in some cases they actually are: israel pays students to shill for israel, public knowledge, look it up) or 'retired' as an explanation for why they aren't working. In some rare cases they will claim to be 'self-employed' but with apparently no work ethic (basically: look for absences that should be there if 'normal').
7) Horse's laugh/ridicule is a common discredit tactic, but can be made to backfire by earmarking them as immature/unable to handle the mature subject material.
8) Shills are, surprisingly, human. Generally, two types of shill: zealots/psychopaths, and punch-clock shills. Zealots (EG IDF) believe in the cause (they genuinely believe you're evil), psychopaths do it for the lulz, neither can be convinced otherwise. Punch-clock shills only do it for pay/lack of alternative. Edward Snowden was a punch-clock shill - he defected. Break the fourth wall, reach out. They know they're deceiving citizens.
Some shills even purposefully subvert their own work, and will make it obvious - on purpose - that they are a shill. They do have 'supervisors' so they can't be subversive all the time. Can't give examples, their 'supervisors' would clamp down on it. Appeal to the handler, not the bot. A 'good' shill is one you can't see.
Homer once said in response to a bad workplace: "You don't quit, you just do your job half-assedly"
Remember, some will have families, so there's no 'exit stage left'. Expose the shills, but try to also appeal to their humanity (if they have any). They will already know they're working for the bad guys on the simple fact they're attacking a forum full of people trying to expose corruption and human trafficking. Consider posting alternative job opportunities for whatever place they're from.
To the shills:
Do what you can to subvert the deception at your place of work. Even occupied France had the French resistance. A timely tip-off hint here or there can make all the difference.
https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1561031.html#q1653637
>I wouldn't have thought to reach out to shills
Neither did I, but after I started waxing philosophical reminding people about 'enemies both foreign AND domestic', I found shills starting to waver, after they realised their enemies aren't always external - they could be their own employers. Thesedays, I hear the emphasis on 'domestic' fairly regularly amongst grey and white hats.
Appealing to shills doesn't mean compromising. Stick to your message. In some ways, it's a psychological battle - you trying to convince them and them trying to convince you. And if not you, then they're trying to convince 'the audience'.
Home field advantages:
1) You work for free (they cost money - attrition. Some might be 'free' but they're less likely to be 'loyal' unless they're zealots).
2) You're adaptable (they have to follow a script, play to a specific agenda, follow orders - you can troll to your hearts content. If it came out they were being racist, harassing or discriminatory they're legally liable)
3) They run the risk of being exposed and it all backfiring (if someone 'exposes' you for being concerned citizens there's no repercussions)
4) There's a risk their technology will fall into enemy hands (think EternalBlue-style exploit leaks)
5) Whatever they're doing now software-wise, you can likely do better: passion and talent trumps money and manpower any day of the week.
Some forum configs for better resistance:
1) Introduce post flood delays (ideally variable on post size). No true human can 'mass post' within seconds. Essentially, force bots to have a post rate akin to a human (makes the human job easier).
2) Daily captcha can be easily thwarted by a handler with low tech - they solve the captcha for the day and then leave the bot to run, either:
2a) Prompt on every post, or
2b) Prompt after X number of posts (X being whatever you'd consider 'spam' or 'bulk posting').
Alternatively, you could modify your admin powers to 'anchor' specific posters with a 'every post' captcha (which can be used as a litmus paper test). Expect the handlers to whine about it - it's easier to social engineer the admin into disabling the captcha or reducing it than it is for some tech companies to build tech to solve the captcha (as said: some are homebrew, some are commercial - commercial ones auto-solve, homebrew, not so much).
3) If you plan to deploy your own bots, instigate a policy that bots (to avoid being banned) must self-identify as bots. Consider setting up bots that hunt shills and bots ('hunter-killer' units) - these can be passive (they only need to 'read' the board and report the findings).
4) Bots sometimes break on escape characters or unicode characters: /?x009 '~;:¬/?-(*& any decent programmer will escape the read posts, but it can help to bork them with garbage information
https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1561031.html#q1656066
Ignoring the random garbage, carrying on.
How do you thwart the writing analysis tools?
There's two approaches, the 'bad way' and the 'good way'. The 'good way' requires teamwork, the 'bad way' is better than nothing.
1) Avoid any identifying information where and when you can (names, IP addresses, browser fingerprint etc). Keep that shit random. I 'namefag' because literally anyone can take my name - it's there to prove a point.
2) You have an internal voice. That's what gives your writing it's flavour. That internal voice is what you're hearing reading this right now. In order to change how you write, change your internal voice's accent to some other accent. To demostrate, I will write the next part of this in the voice of Leghorn Foghorn.
C: I say, I do say, there, chap, you also needin' be changin yer werds so dey sound exactl like dat of the voice yo hear, you hearin me boy?
D: yer also be wantin to change dat grammar of yours boy so if yer good with dem words dem fighting words you want to become bad vice-versa if yer bad dont be a-rectifyin' dem mistakes you hear boy?
E: All these here capital letters and all these here lower case letters be havin no effect boy, yo went to be mispelin some of dem words, dont be corretin others if dey bad, cuz youd be askin for it boy
F: Yous want t' be avoidin dem unique words, ya hear? no unique words fer anybody!
G: I say, dem mono-syllabic words be where it's at, the simpler boy, the better
H: if you write long boy, the shorter dat there post, the better. less words be givin dem fewer hits, you hear me?
[and now, Morpheus]
You see, Anonymous, the 'good way' lies within teamwork. What if I told you that, if you all wrote the same way, that no agent, no bot, could distinguish your fighting style from that of any other in the Matrix?
Like fish in a school, be hard to distinguish from a crowd. I can only show you the techniques, Anonymous, you must be the ones to use it.
jOkEr sTyLe wRiTiNg iS oVeRuSeD aNd AnNoyIn aNd dOeS nOt rEaLly wOrK (mOsT aNaLysIs tOoLs nOrMaLizE cAsE tO lOwEr)
So 33 is a cool number. I agree. It really is.
Lots of synchronicities and special things tied to 33.
Is looking to understand the symbolism of 33 a worthy pursuit? Absolutely!
So you practice some level of abstinence/meditation during your special time of the month. You get insights, feel spiritual and see a lot of 33s.
(I actually tried this last month and saw a few double 3's)
Okayyy, cool. So far.
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33 is the manifestation of the one consciousness. No biggie, we know about the collective consciousness. How cool to know I'm tuning in!
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What? I'm nothing but a fractal? How could that be?
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Ah. After death, I will be nothing but a fractal.
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While here in physical form on earth, I am much more than a fractal.
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With my physical/mental/spiritual self, I can tune in to the one consciousness, marvel at fractals and gain understanding of the key of 33 and so much more.
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I'll return to the one consciousness and be a fractal eventually, but not anytime soon.
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I have much work to do on this earth, many experiences to have.
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The Rig Veda is an important sacred text, find out more about it here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigveda
BUT!!! And here is the hook.
It's all about worshiping deities.
What have we learned about worshiping beings?
CONTROL! Voluntary enslavement.
None but the one true God should be worshiped. And the true God doesn't even want our worship.
And there you have it friends. #hellowolf
Indeed I read it - brilliant. You've made the connections. Thank you for your very helpful posts around this :)
I might also add, there are 'death cult' overtones to be seen, weaponized wisdom.
Always beware of weaponized wisdom. It is the kind that cuts both ways.
Flips from love & peace to something else in a hot instant.
Keep the critical thinking caps turned on and fully charged!
Light on!