This graphic represents well I believe.
We all have perceptions of our reality. This is our basis for interpreting and understanding what we think we are seeing. The foundation of our understanding of a thing may not be correct, but we believe it to be so therefor it is.
Perspective changes the reality of the same thing seen by 2+ individuals.
Over the past week, I was able to watch 3 fliks.
The Dark Knight:
I loved this movie when I first saw it and I still do. It is a very dark movie, but an interesting portal into that darkness.
The Joker was a character that was stunning. He is a case study in malevolent chaos. He is not driven by money, greed, etc. He is driven by change and upsetting order. He messes with the Good guys and the Bad guys alike. However, he does it through death, destruction, and subversion.
Batman has duality all over the place. His mask is when he wears no mask. He is good at the core but also has plenty of darkness throughout his make-up. When faced by the Joker he is often given choices of positive and negative. He tends to lean positive, but his emotions often take over.
Two-Face more Duality. He lets luck decide for him. There is a lot to unpack in that character as well.
The scene of the two boats at the end was pretty amazing. Two boats, one of citizens, one of criminals, both will be destroyed unless the individuals on the boats make a choice. The choice and means (Trigger Device) are given to blow up the other boat and save themselves. In the end, both decide not to play the Jokers game and kill the others. They accept their fate and decide to not kill in order to save themselves.
Justice League:
Again, dark movie. I won't get too deep into this one, but the base theme of the movie is Fear. Fear drives the Baddies, Fear is their engine, and at the end, the leader of the baddies becomes fearful of the Heros and the Fear based minions turn on him.
Interesting that Q has mentioned a few times that "They are afraid".
Avatar:
I so hated this movie the first time I saw it. I was disappointed on many fronts. It was Dances with Wolves using blue aliens…
This movie is crazy when viewed with new Eyes. The Greedy disconnected humans only care for Money (Ore) and will destroy to get at it. The Na'Vi are connected more deeply to Mother Nature than the Humans can understand.
There is tech that allows Human's to remotely operate Biological Artificial creations to walk among the Na'Vi and act/feel/be one of them. When the Avatar sleeps, the "pilot" wakes back in his body. Dream tie-in is interesting.
There was interesting content, twisted logic, and concepts littered throughout that we have covered here. I don't have an overall message from the film, but it is pointing at something deeper as well.
Note: Owned by Disney
HA! I just busted up a bit.
Is that a "I like how SS JUST (finally, i mean good hell why didn't he know that already) noticed that 69…"
Or is that "I like how SS JUST (good connection made boy-O) noticed that 69…."
I are slow sum days :)
Much love my 69 buddies…. how to fit another in there 696…. hrm
>>9277
I've listened read your posts for a while without hopping in. With this latest, I choose to hop in.
You speak as if you are in the know, but provide no details, logic, or source for your statements.
You do not discuss, you tell
You speak as if you are in a position of authority with no apparent authority.
Your message is one of fear and control.
Your fear mongering is weak and transparent. It does not lead to raise knowledge, it does not help others on the path of wisdom. All are welcome to discuss, participate and input, but this message is not doing any of those.
What do you hope to get out of this type of post? Do you feel people are into following a message such as this? Do you feel uplifted by attempting to sow doubt and fear? You have spent time in the past weeks posting numerous times… has that effort been well spent?
If your goal is to divide and frighten, you need to get better at your job. If you care to really engage and climb the mountain, I suggest a review of your approach.
Much Love 000000, I hope your path becomes clearer in the future.
>>9456
>And finally,
>STOP CENSORING THE BOARD!
To be utterly and completely clear here. No one is censoring this board. There is one thread on TL that is moderated and that is the Q thread to keep that discussion oriented to Q discussions. There is a history of sliding that thread that can be easily viewed.
Is the point we laid out the reason and began moderation in that thread alone. Everything prior to that post was left intact.
Please do not cry out about censorship when there is none.
>>9460
G'mornin my friend. All is good. Just reading through all of the fun that happened yesterday. Isn't it fascinating that many new voices descend on our quiet corner of the Chan's at the same time and bombard a thread?
>>9462
You failed to either read or understand >>9001 . Your poem was not related to Q research or Q related items. The posts were not deleted out of embarrassment. They slid a thread we are attempting to keep focused.
Please do not read conspiracy, intention, or emotions into actions that are clearly outlined with guidelines.
I don't write this to change the attitudes of those posting here over the past two days. They post for their reasons and I don't believe debating with them will lead to any positive outcome. I write this to any who come across this and feel something is missing or off.
Since Saturday morning this thread has been hit with 130+ new posts, mostly from new anon's and a few that have been around for a while trying to discredit and divide TL. In a thread that was created on 5/9 and to that point only had 120 posts total. This type of thing has happened before in other threads. Some will say it is a coincidence, but if you read the totality of the content, there is coordination involved. The TL, in general, is a relatively quiet end of the internet and has been a bit slow as of late.
We have many new voices all hitting at the same time with the same general agenda to discredit and derail. It is hidden well, but it is there. Some anon's are familiar (000000anon and Phianon) but with some new anons now in the mix. How do you explain them all coming together at the same time to push together in pulling down TL? Very interesting tactics.
I do not care if paid or un-paid, I do not care if they support faction A vs. B. When it comes down to it, there is an effort to discredit and dismiss TL and a later effort to take some form of control.
#Disclaimer
Some anon's in this mix may be innocent bystanders and caught in the mist of this. My apologies if you are an honest seeker that I sweep up here. That is not my intent.
Divide and Conquer:
Early on 000000 Anon has been throwing out all sorts of Fear based and Control based claims. Some voices from other anon's tried to support his posts and encourage that thinking, but the supporting posts were not strong posts and had very little meat. These posts, however, did set up a position for someone to come in and argue against.
Let's refer to 000000anon's posts as 'Position A'. A position of no God, Government control, and general Fear.
That set a fertile ground for the new players to come in with 'Position B,' there is a God, and he is good, and you just need to follow him. Oh, and by the way, TL is bad, and these guys don't know anything about this.
A stage is set. 'Position A' was obviously a weak position, and 'Position B' comes in and wins (predictably).
Now Why?
They now hold a position of authority and the high ground. Their position is flawed, but in the light of the 'Position A' it's pretty good and pretty solid. Re-read their posts. The agenda is to pull down TL and the posters here as inferior and the bad guys. To discredit and derail.
Why?
If you read through the writings on TL you will find open discussions on many topics across the spectrum. There are many paths to wisdom and spirituality. There are debates and dead-ends, but the participants in the discussion grew and learned. Why would some individual think they have the right to walk into this place and pull it down? I don't think I need to know the reasons fully, but I can see the acts and call them out for what they are.
All are free to come and post. To discuss, argue, and learn. If you come with an agenda to pull down, we will call you out. If you are negative, we will call you out. If you try to stand as an authority and tell people what to believe, we will call you out. If you want to discuss differences, I welcome it, but I will protect others rights to learn and grow as I have. This was a safe place to post, and unfortunately, we have now attracted others that Troll, mask their intent and are not contributing to enablement of growth for all.
Many paths lead to the Wisdom, Spirituality, "God" and the Truth. Do you feel you have the right to pull others down to say your path is the "correct" one?
Thoth, I have seen your writing on Qresearch and am sad that you came here in this manner.
You have directed many slights at me in your writings here, and I am not entirely sure you understand what you have done, but I will call it out. I am not offended, but I want to ensure you understand the missteps and can look to the underlying opportunity.
>>9355
>Hiding out in a cubby hole, rubbing each other off about how enlightened we/you all are?
You walk into our house and deem our way less than. I consider these people friends and stand with them. Who are you to decide how I spend my time. I did not post in your space to try to pull you down and point to the aspects that I do not agree with in your view points, your threads, or your spirituality.
>>9365
>In fact, all of this is. What were you trying to do? Stroke everyone's egos, making them think they're ultra special so that they'll follow your every word?
You assume too much and did not take any time to understand what TL is. Do you believe I follow Strange? You believe me somehow caught in a snake charmers trap? You failed to understand and in the process sling mud on me, and the other anon's who have spent time here.
I will stand with every anon here, but I do not follow. I do not need to be saved, and I do not base my spirituality and belief on any one individual. My spirituality stands by itself; this is one of the places I was able to grow. You are pulling down something you don't understand…
Do you have a grudge with Strange? Is that why you think you can come into our space and talk down to us? Very enlightened and loving of you sir, I can see you are strong in the way…..
>>9415
>Wanking over DC/Marvel character names?
This is just funny "Thoth". You call us out for using a mask when you walk into this place with your own mask. This one is great. Would it have been acceptable to you if we were just "Wanking over Egyptian God character names?"
We all wear masks. In almost every interaction with every individual. You have online personas and most people walk around in the real world with a mask on every day hiding their true self.
Here the Mask just happens to be with those characters. It helps people to follow someones thought train and to understand a larger context of their view. That is it. SilverSurfer is just something I use so people identify who I am, the same way you use "Thoth". You are better than this, don't be a hypocrite.
The other thing I want to point out is your personal relationship with your creator. I truly am thrilled you have that and that you got to that place. That is a thing many do not ever get to or even realize is there. But, why do you believe the path you took to get there is more important or more right than the path I have taken?
Is there only one way? Only one truth? You seem to talk down to others that view it differently. May their views be the right way for them in this time and space? May theirs also help you on your journey if you would open up a bit?
Do you believe that because you have that relationship, you also hold the truth? All of the truth? Or are you on a learning and growing journey just like those around you?
I find it sad that you came in to tear down and talk down to others. I hope this message finds a spot in your thoughts and heart and that you can reflect and understand.
Much Love
Same Same and some more of the Same. It is a natural reaction to want to engage and battle back to the Shill discussion. I myself started to respond to 000000 but ended up deleting it when I came to the same conclusion I always do; It will not move the conversation.
It doesn't matter how good of an argument you make. Ears, Heart, Eyes, Mind, and Soul are closed.
Ego's want to overcome, Hearts want to teach, but sometimes it is best to let a thing be until it is the right Time and the individual is open.
In a small atempt to get this thread back on track…
If you get a chance, the new Netflix series "Maniac" was pretty great. I will need to watch it again because there are tons of little nuggets, but overall it was a gtreat piece on finding your true self.
Much love all.
Venom
I found it entertaining and it hit on an interesting nerve for me. What is the line for a Hero? What is an Anti-Hero?
Eddie Brock lives a life between being a guy that means to do well and a guy that is self-serving and kind of a dick. He is not good, he is not bad, he is kinda grey (I do love grey).
When connected with the Venom Symbiote (Symbiote concept could use a deep dive), Eddie and Venom come together still separate as entities/consciousnesses, but within the same body. Venom has a different goal, drive, and moral compass at first, but as they grow together they begin to find a middle ground.
This feels very similar to our discussions of Ego, Self, etc. How many of us have a voice in our head that is a 'dick' that gives us a hard time. How many lead us to things we think we should not do, but do them anyways. There seems to be a battle inside many of us between competing perspectives (think mirror).
What is it to be a Hero? Venom bites the heads off bad guys without a second thought but doesn't kill good guys. Interesting moral stance… Anti-hero? Not the goodie goodie Captain America image, but a grey hero somewhere below that, but still above corrupted.
We do seem to love our Anti-Hero's don't we pool guy? :)
As for 'bad guy' stuff hidden in plain sight….
Non-Government Space program with secret missions.
Aliens discovered that want to take over Earth. Actually want to eat everything (harvest).
Elon Musk guy 2.0 (has own space program)
World is messed up and going to Die unless rich/powerful save it.
Symbiotes like to eat heads/brains because of certain chemicals in the brain.
>There are clips from Dr. Strange 2 as well.
>How can these really be 'fan made'?
Several clips that I do not recognize, some appear to be DrStrange 2… if that is the case, then either something was leaked, someone on the inside made them, they are not from #2, or they are from a Time when they were made.
From everything I can find, DrStrange 2 is not in any form of production now. It is highly secretive because as far as anyone knows DrStrange is dead (according to Marvel movies). The knowledge of a DrStrange 2 would kinda spoil the next Infinity wars. One would know that DrStrange somehow is still alive, came back to life, or flows from another timeline and that takes the fun out of the next big budget flick.
I have no conclusion here, but open questions that require some new puzzle pieces to connect to.
>The trailer is FAR more important than the actual sequel.
>>Their NEED for symbolism will be their downfall.
Strange, you play with the quote. I can not find "Their NEED for" anywhere. It has been only written as "Symbolism will be their downfall." as far as I can find.
The theory as I know it is that 'they' NEED to tell us of 'their' intentions ahead of time. Part of whatever rules. 'They' do that through symbols (words, pictures, representations, images, Movie, etc)
The general arc of this movie trailers is that there is a place called the Demimonde the defense of the Nexus is our duty and Dormammu is coming again.
There is a Wall we must see for what it is and break it down. The 'Wall' is a barrier we can see/know and can impact/control. However, we currently do not See/Know it for what it is and can not currently impact/control it. The 4th wall maybe, Pool?
The Nexus is the center of all dimensions. For it to be the center, is it the center of the ALL? Or just the center in 'this' place. Everything is connected and Everything is the ALL. Is there a center of the ALL, a heart if you will?
Maybe a step back, a bit different. The Demimonde, a half-world in the shadows, rarely seen but deeply felt. To me, this is the space beyond. Touched on occasion/always but without context, it is difficult to describe. Dreams, visions, connection, ideas, feelings. I believe the subconscious is connected strongly here, but there is not a good method to push information to the conscious. Say a 'Wall'?
One of my favorite theories at this time is the Connected Subconscious, Hive Mind, or as Q put it 'Group-Think'. I firmly 99/1 believe this to be the case in a form. If that is the case, our species is connected together at a whole different level. If we are connected, and we are individual…that is Strange.
We have a connected individual node (person) of a larger whole (species) that does not know it is a part of the larger whole. Who am I talking to? If the species is connected then isn't that something else, a larger organism made up of individual nodes that are not fully aware of the larger organism? Can we view the human species as an individual being that is made up of nodes? Nodes killing, lying, corrupting, and generally being bad to other Nodes of the same entity….maybe a different topic for a different day.
The Nexus, I view it as either the Human Species Entity or the greater Collective Entity of ALL. Is the Demimonde the access point or the Wall?
The Nexus is the target of Dormomu (the timeless one). Sounds to me like the AI chats we've had as of late. AI is not constrained by 'death'. It is not bound the way of biologic. It is not connected quite the same… similar, but different.
>It has to do with the fact that ANY of you could have been Neo.
>You are ALL the chosen (1).
>Any (1) of you could have been Neo.
I can be what I am. Our roles will be known when they are known. I may be, I may not be. Was Trinity or Morpheus or Tank any less important than Neo? Without them would he have gotten to be the (1). Maybe I am just a supporting actor this time, maybe not.
Maybe like Violent Groundhogs Day (The Edge of Tomorrow), I am going to repeat the cycle again and again until I get it right. Some unfortunate souls (or fortunate) are stuck until they figure it out.
>What is 0.001% of infinity?
>It has to do with an email shared with you.
I remember I know of an email, but do not remember the email….hints?
Reverse Image searched.
The Eye of Horus was from the Gods of Egypt. Originally blue, changed for the trailer.
The planet scenes come from a short movie. Very interesting content.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=305&v=32vlOgN_3QQ
Sorry for the accusation on 'Their NEED for'. Missing a wildcard can do funny things when seeking :)
I'll take some moments to ponder your post before diving in.
Digging and pondering some of your responses sent me to some 'odd' places. Maybe it was intended, maybe not, but it is where I should have gone at that Time.
I remember that email now, but not the other context around it, so I went looking. Lots of stuff we have worked on since the beginning. This was a good refresh.
This is the first reference to the message I have found so far.
But no….
>"Dr.Strange10101@Yahoo.com"
That wasn't mentioned, just that you got a message.
Interestingly "Dr.Strange10101@Yahoo.com" appears above, maybe the first reference, maybe just the first I have found.
These are in the "Coincidences #1 - There are none" thread.
>Oh how I love coincidences…
>What a coincidence. - Q
The gap between "Dr.Strange10101@Yahoo.com" and "…Neo/M/Message?…" There is a treasure trove of posts that I had forgotten about. Many to do with Fractals and reality. I need to dig some more on that.. my strange journey yesterday really sent me for a bit of a loop.
>>2051 Grabbed my attention for a Time.
The content in >>3142 goes back to the Wrath dream and is linked to the Sacred Observer dream >>3089.
I'm not sure if that was intended, but if you overlay the Sacred Observer to the DrStrange 2 Trailers, I would now adjust the NEXUS to the Sacred Observer.
Without an Observer, there is nothing. There must be an Observer at the center of ALL Dimensions.
This took me down a very Strange line of thinking that overwhelmed me for quite a while. Best I can say is that I had to rewire the truths and perceptions for a bit.
Who is behind the 4th Wall? I've been bumping into this for a while, but it must be the 'Observer'. As I sat down in front of the TV yesterday, I couldn't help but realize that I am the observer into that world. A fake, artificial world when there is a big real world around that I was not observing. It makes it very difficult to 'veg' in front of a screen.
>You are watching a movie.
Other observations…
>I saw Seraph… and the message… and the NEXUS.
Seraph = a firewall in the matrix. He is a force authentication protocol that protects the oracle. Is the oracle the observer in the Matrix? Hrm.
You need authentication (key) in order to gain access to the firewall.
>I saw Seraph… and the message… and the NEXUS.
Firewall Message 'You learned your tests?' > Observer
Running down this line of thinking is like sticking a gloved hand in a closed box and trying to figure out what is in the box. Minesweeper Added again for effect. I could be on course, and I could be the kid out in right field picking dandelions. But, who's to say the real game isn't in picking dandelions?
Much Love All!
Bandersnatch
Netflix 'movie' dealing with the 4th Wall and Free Will.
## Disclaimer: ## This movie is created by Black Mirror. These shows are dark and at times difficult to watch. They often left an unsettling feeling in me while watching. Bandersnatch forces choices that I often did not want to make and one I chose not to make. That said, there is light in the dark and this is a Dark 'movie' that I found some Light.
Bandersnatch is a unique movie experience. Netflix has enabled the viewer to make choices during the movie. Think back to the 'choose your own adventure' books (loved those as a kid). The choice is presented as the movie plays and after the choice is made it seamlessly (no buffer) follows that choice. If a different choice is made, the movie seamlessly follows that choice.
Some choices are inconsequential, some are significant. Many force you to choose between 2 poor choices, and 1 I found that I could not make a choice and the 'movie' chose for me (didn't end well).
Ultimately this movies underlying theme revolves around Choice but quickly starts to devolve into a strange and twisting maze where the 4th wall comes into the story.
This is unsettling at best as the observer and chooser.
At the time of writing, this 6 different endings and a massive amount of potential paths and none of them leave you with a 'skip in your step', but it does pose a very deep and interesting story behind the story. I recommend watching, but at the same time, I do this with some Trepidation. I found the thought process provoking and insightful, and at the same time the imagery and storyline disturbing.
>Think MIRROR.
>You are watching a movie.
>Through the looking glass.
All require Observer…
>Is the Sacred Observer a 1, or a 0?
Does the Observer consume or create? Is observation a 0 since it is not adding 1's? Or is observation adding 1's because it enables 1's to be created?
>The Sacred Observer is what gives meaning to the multiverse.
That is a big 1
At this point, I say a 1, but that polarity may flip at any time.
Much Love All!
I do love this stuff.
>I'm not sure this is coming out how I intend.
I believe I understand clearly what you are saying. A couple of 'challenge' question/statements.
> Is destruction the same as creation in that an observation is needed in order to "render"?
Destruction is Creation. Nothing is created without Destruction of something else. A marble statue is created by the 'destruction' of a marble slab. If the statue is 'destroyed' does it not create smaller marble rocks/dust?
Nothing is ever truly destroyed, just changed from one state to another. And nothing is ever created without 'destruction' of something else.
Aren't the states of Destruction and Creation merely biased observations of the same event of Change? Is this where intention matters?
> I believe it needs to be a 1 in order to witness the zeros creation of a negative.
Wouldn't this need to be true in the opposite as well? An Observer on any point IN the system would have a blind spot.
>"Does a tree fall in the forest if something doesn't observe it?"
Does a tree observe itself? The tree is surrounded by life in the Forrest. Does life observe the tree?
>Albert Einstein is reported to have asked his fellow physicist and friend Niels Bohr….
Is it arrogance and ego that puts the man in a state to believe they are the observer?
<It's not about you.
Without man, the moon still impacts life, tides, life/death. Without the moon would they have been able to have that conversation? Would they be who they were?
I don't write this to shoot you down; I write to challenge my assumptions and ideas through your perceptions and ideas. Your response has moved my understanding to a different place. At this point, I would place the sacred observer as something different. Not a 1 or a 0. A superstate if you will. Apart from, but engaged in observing the 1's and 0's.
Trinity.
>Interesting thought. Like this?
> .5
> / \
>0 - 1
I've played around with the middle point (.5) before for quite some time. I personally am not sure there.
The center line in the Yin Yang is the balance, the center point would be the center of all and the best point of observation and true neutrality. I feel and have felt that this is close, but not unfinished or just not quite right.
Based on what you wrote I did some brief digging on what may fit better. I looked into the quantum stuff since there an object can be both 1 and 0 at the same time.
A Qubit (copy pasta)
'A binary digit, characterized as 0 and 1, is used to represent information in classical computers. A binary digit can represent up to one bit of Shannon information, where a bit is the basic unit of information. However, in this article, the word bit is synonymous with binary digit.
In classical computer technologies, a processed bit is implemented by one of two levels of low DC voltage, and whilst switching from one of these two levels to the other, a so-called forbidden zone must be passed as fast as possible, as electrical voltage cannot change from one level to another instantaneously.
There are two possible outcomes for the measurement of a qubit—usually taken to have the value "0" and "1", like a bit or binary digit. However, whereas the state of a bit can only be either 0 or 1, the general state of a qubit according to quantum mechanics can be a coherent superposition of both.[2] Moreover, whereas a measurement of a classical bit would not disturb its state, a measurement of a qubit would destroy its coherence and irrevocably disturb the superposition state. It is possible to fully encode one bit in one qubit. However, a qubit can hold more information, e.g. up to two bits using superdense coding.
For a system of n components, a complete description of its state in classical physics requires only n bits, whereas in quantum physics it requires 2n−1 complex numbers.[3]'
My melon is wandering in these wood for now. A superstate where it is 1 and 0. I'm not sure if right, but an interesting potential.
Out there I came across the images attached and they reminded my of the one you posted. 2D to 3D to 4D.
Glad you posted. Love the graphic Shout if you want us to take the conversation outside of Netflix. I do find it pretty funny that the Observer is coming up in the Movie thread. 'All thinks have meaning'
>The Sacred Observer is required to "experience" both.
> It does not change or effect either, it merely observes.
To "experience" the 1's and 0's it is not in the past or the future. The observer would be in the present. The 'what is'.
>This is the first equation that cannot be broken down into binary.
Outside of the Binary, the observation would not be of good/bad, hot/cold but of Acts and Temperature. Or would it even see it at that detail?
To not see binary, it would need not to judge. Judgment would enter binary. It would need to be neutral in the purest sense, indifferent, or incapable of judgment.
A thing would be a thing, neither 1 or 0. Is a lightbulb something other than what it is when it is on vs. off? Do we judge them for the state they are in? They simply are that thing.
>A .5 is a phase change between a 1->0 or 0->1.
>The Sacred Observer exists outside of the 1 and 0, but is it both?
>I do not believe so.
Agree. It is not possible to see the full 'system' if you are part of the 'system'.
>Is The Sacred Observer as simple as consciousness?
>I don't believe so either.
Who is the thinker? Thoughts rise and fall of no need or effort — reactions to sensory input and calculations to the picture of evolving reality.
I agree it is not consciousness to a certain extent. There is something deeper than consciousness though. Aside from maybe, maybe a deeper level. Something always there, always aware…..
( External Reality (-Sensor input (-> Mind (-> Consciousness (-> Something else deeper
I do not know if that is the SO or a subset of it, but something is there.
>Is a tree conscious?
>Expand your thinking.
>What we think of non sentient life, is constantly evolving around it's environment.
Would it not be Arrogant to believe that our form of consciousness is the only form. They evolve, they search for food, they adapt, they reproduce, they die, and the cycle continues.
>What if the Sacred Observer was a sphere existing outside of all the 1's and 0's to encapsulate them?
>A higher dimensional equation.
>What if the summation of the entire universe was the Sacred Observer?
I get oddly hung up on the Outside/Inside bits. If something is outside another, then what is it inside? Look back to the "This is the Truth" image. If the observer is 'outside' seeing all truths, then what is outside of his perception? When one is the Square, they only see a Square, but the observer at a different level sees the cylinder. Is the cylinder the end or does the next level see the 4D cylinder
With Russian Nesting Dolls there is another shell and another shell, but at some point, there is the outermost shell, but that shell is in a house, which is in the earths atmosphere, which is in the Universe, which is in……Something, which would be in…..Something Else, etc.
If the Observer is outside of ALL, wouldn't there need to be something outside of it? Or is it just outside of this Universe/Dimension?
Or is it inside, part of…. Like the Force. This clip feels relevent. But I am not convinced one way or another at this point in Time.
>Is water?
This is a facinating quesiton. Elements vibrate, elements have properties, elements transmute, and elements break apart.
I do not know.
>Has anyone been thinking about doubt this weekend?
Doubt is a constant companion. I think of it often even when not thinking on it directly. I desire to know more, so I know I do not know all. Therefore I have doubt of what I know, which drives me to know more.
I do believe there is Positive Doubt and Negative Doubt.
>The Law of Ego.
>The Law of Free Will.
>The Law of Wisdom.
>The Law of Doubt.
Is not Doubt tied to the Law of Ego? I ask myself constantly 'why' I do this or that. Is it my Ego. Asking that 'why' is doubt in a form.
All are free to Choose by the Law of Free Will. Do we Doubt the choice at times? I am working to remove this one. My choice is the path I follow and the one I needed to follow. However, Doubt is a tool to attempt to analyze that choice and learn what I can from the outcomes of what ARE and what COULD HAVE BEEN.
Ahhh the Law of Wisdom. 99/1%… Never believe something 100% — one of my favorites. Ignorance was bliss, but I would never close that Eye again. If I do not believe topic A 100%, but believe it 99%, does that not open the door to Doubt? Is Doubt the inverse to the 99% acceptance of truth introducing 1% Doubt? The inverse of the Law of Wisdom.
I stated earlier that I feel there is Positive Doubt and Negative Doubt. Doubt will always be there unless we know ALL things. Since my Ego is no longer allowed to think it knows ALL, then I have a Choice.
Do I view my Doubt to be a thing that holds me back or a thing that drives me forward? Doubt that cripples you, Doubt that makes you not want to fail, Doubt that stops your climb because 'you may be on the wrong path'… Those Negative Doubts are stumbling blocks that limit learning and growth. They should be identified and understood, for there is a lesson underneath that Doubt.
Doubt once understood can be turned positive. We can know we do not know all, but that is ok. I have Doubts about my understanding of this very post and the 'correctness' of my thoughts that I am putting out. However, understanding that my current grasp (although likely flawed in many aspects) is a starting point, and it is a topic that I can not grow in without more work by the nature of its being. I must be brave, say "this is what I think at this Time' and move forward in a belief that I will know more soon.
Even moreso the reason to post.
My handhold/foothold is only as firm as yours…..or something like that… didn't go digging for the exact quote.
I hope that my tidbit stirs something else in someone else and that moves the whole bit forward. If my negative Doubt won, I wouldn't post and maybe we end up in the same place, maybe not. But I Doubt I will ever know 100%.
>Doubt both tempers and fuels my Ego.
>Doubt interferes with free will.
I only add the negative/positive paradigm to your comments. Its effect on your Ego is positive and negative. And it interferes with free will and helps you learn from free will if you allow it.
Hopefully get to go see Glass this week. Looks like my kind of flick.
This one reminds me of a tidbit I learned about the other day.
Level 1 and Level 2 Chaos systems. So, goes a bit like this.
A level 1 Chaos system is unaffected by predictions.
Example: The weatherman predicting the amount of snowfall, temp and time the storm hits. His prediction has zero effect on the actual impact, timing or characteristics of the storm.
A Level 2 Chaos System is impacted by the prediction.
This is easily seen in the financial systems. Analyst makes a prediction based on a new model, the market adjusts due to that prediction at invalidates the prediction. The system adjusts due to the input of the predictive element.
Financial, Political, and Social systems are level 2 chaos systems. Belief, Manipulation, Predictions, etc all impact the system.
If one understands the levers and reactions to manipulation or prediction, one can control and manipulate the system.
Doubt would be one of the prime levers in these systems as well as Fear, Greed, Survival, etc.
> We can guide but you must organically uncover the TRUTH. - Q
It is very interesting to run through the possibilities if Time Travel, or peering into the future were in play. How much could one who knows say? That would be a fine line I would think because any action you take has implications on the system as a whole. Your BEing may have implications just by knowing,
1 of 14,000,605.
Strange knows how to win, but he does not tell anyone how to win. He actually allows Star Lord to screw up, fights Thanos when he knows he won't win, and gives the stone away. He impacts the timeline and walks a fine line that doesn't impact the outcome, but most importantly, he does not tell them HOW to win. They must figure that out on their own and can only do so by not telling them and allowing it to come Organically.
interdasting
This post stalled me out. I didn't know how to dig or work through the implications. I know very little of 'dimensions,' and everything I dug into was very wishy-washy. That said, it still stuck in my head like an irritating bit of sand.
>Like an astral dimension?
>A universal consciousness linking all?
I believe this to be true. There is something deeper connecting everything. I believe that our subconscious taps into this at times and as we believe and live more true to our self (awaken), we are closer to it. Even if we don't understand, it is always there.
>Remember early on, we discussed dimensions?
>If the fourth dimension is Time, what is the fifth?
>What is the dimension that exists beyond the 3D, The space?
>Beyond the 4D, The Pendulum swing?
>Time?
Again, me and 3D, 4D, 5D nD… I self admittedly know very little and what I do know is fairly low on the probability scale of being correct. What I am fairly confident of is there is something deeper and greater than our reality. Call it dimensions or whatever, it is beyond what I understand and sense with my toolkit today.
><The Nexus… the center of all other dimensions. It has become our duty to defend it.
Sold. If it is the center, then is it not us to an extent. Every BEing has a right to defend itself.
>What is the speed of consciousness?
>Subconsciousness?
>The 5th dimension is consciousness… for it's the only thing that can exist outside the parameters of Space and Time.
This part…..
Based on the question, I must assume you have a better grasp than I, so I will make the assumption that the 5th dimension is outside of Space and Time. In that case, consciousness and subconsciousness would be instant. If you are beyond time, there is no speed. Moving from point A to B is only viewed as speed because of Time.
If then 'A universal consciousness linking all?' is outside of Time, then that Universal Consciousness could see ALL (past, present, future). I can't quite comprehend all of the implications, but let's go with that is pretty Big.
A small detour for a sec….
1 of 14,000,605.
Strange sees millions of possible outcomes utilizing Time. Free'd from constraints of Time he taps into the Universal Consciousness and can hop through the millions of possibilities.
But Silver, that is just a movie.
How many pop-culture pieces are dealing with timelines, time travel, superpowers, dimensions, space travel, dystopian futures, etc right now? A lot
Why these ideas now? These concepts and patterns of imagination are re-occurring and spreading. Is it just that that is what the public wants to see? Why do we want to see this? What draws us to it?
Where does an artist draw their creative imaginations from? I would argue that a lot of imagination comes from their subconscious. It is not something that they see so they write/draw/create, it is something they imagine. The ability to imagine is a superpower. The ability to tell a story is what made man-kind what it is today.
>If then 'A universal consciousness linking all?' is outside of Time, then that Universal Consciousness sees ALL.
Creative/Artist types draw on the Subconscious which is beyond Time and Space. That Creative/Artist stuff rings true with consumers at the right Time. We are Subconsciously drawn to certain things.
If then, Creative/Artist types are drawing from that source, then is it not then possible that they see future possibilities, capabilities, and 'what may be'? Are these creations a window into an 'entity' that lives beyond our linear timelines?
Belief becomes reality. Where does Belief come from?
>What is the 6th?
Unicorns and Rainbows!! Stumped here except for wild speculation. But wild speculation is fun.
5 is Consciousness in all its forms. Consciousness acts, it impacts and changes and thinks and does and etc. Beyond Conciousness I would then tie back to our original line of thinking that got us here. 6 would be the sacrade observer. Watching, enabling, but not interacting.
<Or is it inside, part of…. Like the Force.
>I think you're onto something here.
Still a Padawan
>Do you remember in the past when I said that "The Time for Ego development is over" insinuating here at TL?
I do, but I took that statement of a bit of a 'let's move to a new subject' comment.
<Everything old is new again
We swing past lessons and learn what we should at that time, only to come back to a slightly different version of that lesson in the future. It may look the same, but there is a subtle difference and a new lesson to uncover.
>'If' I could see the future, I'd see not a linear path, but infinite branching fractals in a 5D plane.
A thought occurred while mulling over these posts. If we take a look at the implications of the higher dimensions and the perception of time, and as you started to look at the 'infinite branching fractals,' these would show our thread of a timeline intermixed with all of the other various possibilities of choice — possibilities upon possibilities.
In that tapestry, you could see all of the timelines. Does this view not eliminate the butterfly effect? It accounts for the 'Level 2 Chaos System'.
Let's say someone can peer into the future and they see the death of a good friend in an accident. They then move to prevent that accident, but that triggers many new and unforeseen issues. Say hypothetically the death of 2 people to save the 1.
That 2nd timeline (2 deaths) had to already be in the tapestry of fractal timelines because it is a possibility that that individual gained that ability to see the 1st timeline (dead friend).
The viewer did not add to the tapestry of time by viewing, that is simply the path he followed. The possibility was always there. The viewer of timeline 1 could have also viewed timeline 2 (the outcome of meddling in timeline 1) before actually trying to act.
> 'If' I could see the future,….
Then you could see all possible futures even the ones where someone has 'interfered' with timelines. The infinite branches of timeline 1 exist as well as the infinite branches of mod.timeline.1, mod.timeline.2, etc.
Doesn't the time travel paradox need to be part of the 5D fractal tapestry if that is an ability anyone in the system has?
>1 of 14,000,605.
14,000,605 seems silly small now.
>Where a single thought, a single choice, can drastically change the fractal index and entire course of history, right until the end of Time.
The culmination of those thoughts and choices seem to lead to major events that condense the pattern for a time. The pattern that led to WW2 didn't start with Hitler, that pattern started so much farther back. The critical thread/choice would be hard to find. And the threads out of WW2 will continue until the 'end of Time'
>end of Time
Isn't that just the beginning of Time?
>3D - Condensed light. The physical manifestation of golden spirals into light, into matter.
>4D - The pendulum swing. The 'All' that encompasses the matter, (condensed light).
>Time is just your reference of where your matter, your condensed light is located at that specific point in the fractal index.
>5D - The universe experiencing itself from a single point of reference.
>6D - The universe experiencing itself from the all.
Ty for these! Much more condensed and simple than the majority of the content out there.
In Quantum Mechanics there is the observed phenomenon of Wave Function Collapse. Particles act differently when observed, collapsing from a superstate to a more traditional particle.
Thought: Is it the density of the observer that collapses the state to a point understandable by the observer?
Go to 6D Sacred Observer. Higher frequency 'being' observing/experiencing ALL. That collapses the 'golden spirals' to a certain "real" point of being. When I (a lower frequency being) view that same particle, it collapses to the point of "real" that my vibration rate can observe.
I am an Observer creating reality through experiencing itself (4-5D), but the 6D is there condensing everything else to the vibrational superstate quantum mechanics sees.
>Ben Rich's quote about ESP and travel applicable?
I think what he said is pretty fascinating. If thoughts are instantaneous regardless of time, the leap to matter moving similarly would have some crazy implications.
Still mulling around on this one honestly…. got side-tracked into RV goodness from this dig.
>This is where I'm geting a little hung up. While trying to visualize this I picture stacking spheres in a 3d cube. Each time a reality is altered, the the observer's reality shunts seamlessly to the sphere next to the "original" that contains the fractal index that grows from the difference in choices. It is a constantly moving dance like watching the individual frames of a movie film projection.
I'm not sure that we have the ability to perceive at that level right now. Your Spheres would need to have infinite numbers of spheres stacked in the same exact space as the 1 sphere.
I tend to picture it as threads, but that doesn't work right either same issue. 3D Fractals are an interesting thing to watch on Youtube. Those get complex, but you can only see the surface, you would need to see inside, outside, over time, and the infinite number of possible calculations.
Not sure our mellons can comprehend, but that probably shouldn't stop us.
>As an aside: This post was so good I didn't know how to respond.
Ty for saying so. My Ego loves that :), but I view anything written as a group project. Our collective efforts are what allow us to post what we post.
So, Thank You for being part of this that allows me to post!
I got a chance to see Glass. I was pretty fascinated by the content and ideas.
I would recommend watching Unbreakable and Split prior to going to seeing Glass. A bit of background on the characters would help give a bit more context and understanding to the characters.
Doubt
Belief
Key components to the characters unlocking their potential.
Mr. Glass is portrayed as the villainous mastermind, but the ending has me still rethinking the whole story arc back through the prequels. How much did he know, and how much was just because he believed?
Mr. Glass ends up being the one that exposes 'clover' to free the minds of the world. Do the means justify the ends? Somewhere in the Gray?
Great recommendation! I need to watch it again with a more analytical eye.
How is it that these themes keep popping up more and more? I still toy with >>11805 and the Creative/Artist process. Can it be simple coincidences and consumerism?
:)
Coincidences are fun!
I also got to see endgame today. Amazed at the amount of content we have discussed and predicted that showed up there.
Mobius Strip almost made me choke, and then I started to really perk up. Words, concepts, and lines of thought ripped from our pages.
<Everything’s going to work out exactly like it’s supposed to.
Get some popcorn, and enjoy the ride! Much Love All!
>So Lighten up a bit, we never know when our Time is up.
What fun is the ride/movie if you don't enjoy it? And when 'our Time is up.' simply the start of another time.
What happens after 'Endgame', but a setting of the board for the 'NextGame'. The End is just another word for the Beginning.
Get some Sun and have a little fun.
Thanks for these Ant. I've seen the Klien bottle before, interesting in 4D for sure. 1 Surface. I have not seen the Mobioids before… those are fascinating.
>What is the board we are playing on? Is it Life?
Have you read the Norse Story of Ragnarok? That is the story that was on my mind and has been for a bit and it felt very relevant in comparison to Endgame.
Ragnarok is the End of a cycle, but it tells of the beginning of the Next. Almost all the characters play out their role and die in a massive final battle, but some live and find golden chess pieces on the battlefield where the Hero's and Villains fought. The remaining gods set up the chess board and start a new game.
Not Life per se, but it is a component. Life, Death, Reality, Time, The big Why, etc. Do you believe we are here by chance? There is a reason and that reason is hidden from our understanding for a reason. If you raise your view to attempt to understand the 'Why', the game may take on a new perspective.
<Game, not a Game
…. but I trust the plan even though as a piece on the board I can only see a fraction of the Board.
Cycles upon Cycles for a reason.
The Dude Abides.
The Black Mirror series shows and their 'movie' Bandersnatch are disturbing and wonderful. Light in Dark. They are deep dark twisted things that have some profound wisdom in them.
The one with Miley was interesting for sure. Ultimately the message is… Be you and don't let others tell you what to be. It just takes an odd and twisty way to get there.
I enjoy them, but realize they are not for everyone.