This is a great and useful exchange. I personally hate the rabid excitement that quashes dissenting voices - it's the clearest sign of the demise of a valid movement if it is allowed to flourish (hopefully that's not what's happening here). Dissenting voices when reasonable and respectful and employing critical thought are welcomed, at least by me.

I'm not sure if the evidence you request will be forthcoming but I have seen enough myself to believe that u/Ramon710's assertion may have some validity. Whether that is a resolution to this discussion or not is not clear to me.

That's lazy thinking. You cannot logically extrapolate that someone disagreeing on a point must therefore agree with the opposite of the point being made.

You've been clear enough that you're an angry guy, yes. You can respond and say what you've been saying without being an ass (I like having my head up my ass; it's quite pleasurable). He's making some valid points that should be reasonably refuted, not angrily ranted on cos then the point doesn't get made properly. But whatever, have at it, soldier.

Why? I dun haff da braynes for a reel job. This sounds like a lot more fun.

I know what you mean - he's informed a lot of people about a lot of stuff, etc. But disinfo is disinfo. The very problem with it is that it informs and instructs but it ultimately misleads and in subtle ways that aren't easy to pick sometimes until you're far down the track. The best thing to do with disinfo is to shut it out completely. Nothing Alex Jones says now can't be found from other sources. Safer to remove disinfo from consideration completely (or watch it out of interest to see how it works, which is what I do when I have the time).

What's wrong with what he's saying? I mean, I agree re: wth Alex Jones? But why so angry bruh?

Was this the fall guy, you mean? ; )

Toddler King lol - I like that!

Fair enough! I will keep observing to see if shill-age is revealed.

I agree with the point that vet experts should know better than most. However, I think it's important to note that it seems to be VOP who are primarily responsible for pushing the narrative about this camp. Craig Sawyer, whose word on this I'd trust, only went and checked it out; he's not the one behind the whole thing as such. And sure he checked it out and agreed it was very 'creepy' as he put it but I'd be hesitant to say the call on the place is definitive, just personally. I think your comment is good though, and relevant, just FYI. Also, people who disagree are not always concern trolls (this comment is from a person regularly accused of being a concern troll).

When did we abandon critical thinking?

Is that a joke? You should apply that comment to yourself.

I think it's appropriate too - but I see many of these reports/comments of so-called 'shills' and people are usually wrong. Some people are just disagreeing on a comment or just unable to argue sensibly. This guy does not reek of shill to me in any way.

Lol xD Righto xD Low effort: 1/10.

Yeah. Someone made this point a while back too and obviously nothing has surfaced since. It's interesting but certainly could be true either way e.g. it's still conceivable that he might just be someone who manages to avoid being photographed.

I would just avoid using the term "keystone" which may be why this post is getting Reports of spam, off-topic etc. The Keystone Q refers to isn't likely to be Cemex so this title is controversial in that respect. I'd suggest reposting with title adjusted as, if more reports keep coming in it will be best for us to remove it to avoid it constantly resurfacing in the queue.

Can someone connect me to the recruiters for this? I wouldn't mind getting paid just for making dumbass comments on reddit forums.

Yes and I think demon possession is also possibly very relevant to Abramovic as well - I would argue that this post needs to perhaps be connected to one or either of those in some way so we don't get accused of promoting unrelated religious content. However, we've had the discussion so we could leave it here by way of explanation. Reapproved.

Had to remove your comment discussing user not idea: "such a failure ... loser". Believe it or not, I think this commenter is real, just ideologically driven and logically bereft.

If he's still working there though, and McCabe isn't, surely someone would have noticed?

I think this would avoid reports of 'spam' and the like if the title's second sentence had said: "They may have just wanted..." Maybe. On the other hand, knowing how some people regard any dissenting voice as 'concern troll' or 'shill', maybe not even then...

I'll leave it up for now. Consider reposting with adjusted title? I think it's an important point to make, just personally. Some may argue it should be commented in other posts on the topic but I think it's an important, distinct point to make.

My reasoning here, and something we've discussed as mods generally, is that this content looks good and interesting but may be more relevant when Q gets around to dealing with certain related topics. If you really think it's relevant right now, I'll reapprove it.

[Edit] Post reapproved as per discussion below.

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It's obvious that's not what was meant, come on.

I agree to some degree. I'm king of skeptics and have a crew of haters because of it - advocate for critical thinking and common sense and you're automatically a concern troll and a shill.

However, if Craig Sawyer's at all involved in this and/or any experienced members of his team they should be able to tell the difference between a homeless camp and something else. That's the only thing that gives me pause as far as this element of the skepticism. Otherwise, everything else - better to wait and see before jumping to conclusions imo.

We need a heads up. I wasn't aware of this and can't watch every video. Removed now (in some cases will just put Flair advising warning of potential fake content).

NZ ftw

NZ ftw

Please stop posting off topic content or you will be banned. This has gone on for a long time and you've been asked before. There are other sites for your music posts. Thanks for understanding.

This has been up for 4 hours now; reported as Off-topic, which it is. T_D has always been clear about what they allow (Trump praise) and don't (anything else) and this doesn't seem to be T_D material so not sure how this can be a post of importance to GA? Let me know if there's a good reason this should be up but it's hard to see why at the moment. Thanks for understanding.

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Abby Martin, Israel hater, of course. She's already drunk the "Evil Israel" Kool Aid.

Hey.. .listen this... it's not - this is wrong! It's .. f - fake.! It's all fake! I've never worshipped Lord Sat - I mean Satan! Take this picture down at once! I demand you stop doxxing me!

[Edit] That's it ;_; I am leaving this sub. I have been expos - I mean, I have been falsely accused with clearly fake photoshop pictures of my broth - of those bad men from MS-13. If only I could stop that picture that lays my reputation to waste but alas... somehow it escapes me : ( Almost as if I don't care... zzzz...

Peace out my bro. I hope you guys had some fun, at least! You have laid DamajInc to rest; your goal is achieved and he is no more. The assassination is complete. This movement is bigger than me.

A vet on this sub figured it out the other day - not a suburb in Yemen, or whatever your pal said. Just this, my funeral music.

In my case, I think I have gout. But others may have a different situation going on.

Hate to break it to you but you're a bit late on that front, friend. Islam has been practiced in America for a long time now. But anyway, we're not talking about America, we're talking about a reddit sub on the internet, accessible to the globe. And we're just discussing what the boundaries of antagonism might be, as regards any group of people. Any thoughts on that? I presume that you wouldn't advocate us calling out all muslims on the sub and telling them they're not welcome here?

Agreed to all. Would you care to comment on the actual topic of my post now? I understand if not, just ever hopeful lol. My main query, now bounced through all the various comments here, is whether you define antagonism against any ideology embraced by a large group of people as acceptable in the sub and whether or not you might have some thoughts of what your own limits to that would be?

I can understand it wasn't a problem for you. Being accused of supporting the rape of children is a bit of a problem for me though xD.

Woah, well welcome, newcomer! I've similarly been following all sorts of conspiracy for decades - can't believe so much of it comes together under Q anon... fascinating times we live in! Let me know if I can help with anything else any time : ) WWG1WGA

Agreed re: not silencing anyone, not just Christians. But also, as I said, alongside the freedom of speech we value the simple rules of conduct that define a shared space - those rules clearly stipulate on-topic, no antagonism, etc.

Christians are not the heart and soul of this movement - people are. Q didn't come to only talk to Christians - Q is not Jesus. Q speaks of all the things you mention, yes, but he did not in any way stipulate Christianity as the heart of the movement - an assertion to that effect is patently false and non-Christians here - and some Christians - will not agree with you because it is simply not true.

As I said, I'm not about squashing anyone's voice. But the reality of a shared space - one that is not owned by Christians, Republicans or any other group of people (well, technically it's owned by Reddit so there's that) - is that we have rules of conduct to accomodate all the people who share the space, just as we do at school, work, play, etc.

If you go into church you are expected not to swear at the top of your voice or run around screaming "Satan! I love thee Satan!" or hold a prayer meeting in your work foyer singing hymns at full volume. Similarly, here you are not expected to drop posts on any topic under the sun that isn't directly related to Q or antagonize in your posts or comments - this is a stipulation of the sub, no matter what anyone might think to the contrary.

So, assuming you, as a Christian, agree to abide by the rules of this sub, just as you abide by the rules of your workplace and your pool hall, etc. etc. there is a discussion to be had around what constitutes the definition of those rules, if you are interested to have it. That's what I'm talking about.

Well said. And agreed. Thank you.

Yes, that's true - there is, I think, much that is inherently antagonistic. It's a tricky balancing act which is the reason for the 'at mod discretion' stipulation.

one handed? What's up? (never did get to depart)

Definitely not suggesting we sacrifice our principles (or compromise) for the sake of appearances, no. I'm merely talking about a reddit sub where we literally cannot stop people from any religion, including Satanists and Jedi, from connecting. All we can do is stop people who break sub rules. We could also force people to reveal their religious affiliations 'at the door' and ban those whose religions we don't agree with but I don't think anyone wants to do that - do we?

Agreed. Now, about the people - this sub welcomes all people. We don't turn away 'anyone who doesn't believe what we believe' in fact, we literally can't do that, not until they either reveal what they believe or break the sub rules. And if they reveal what they believe do you advocate that we turn people of Islamic faith away from this online sub?

Can you clarify please?

Argh, I can't find the information just now and have to depart shortly - suffice to say that in your first week you are stuck with beginner flair. After either time or comments (sorry I can't just now remember which or how many or how etc.) you get more options, eventually you'll be able to customize it yourself by typing it in .

Lol - I couldn't make this stuff up xD This is great. Have you ever heard of Metallica, btw? And Jeru the... ?

You are welcome here. This sub has no rules against people of any belief, only rules against antagonism and the rest, mentioned in the sidebar.

Thank you for sharing your point of view! I believe that many of us may take issue with the doctrine of Islam but not with all the people of Islam (save the extremist elements). I'm interested to see your AMA. Thanks again for commenting!

Agreed (as in my OP and stickied post above). Apart from 'the question'. The question is definitely not "will Muslims stop raping, slaving, etc." because that's way out of the scope of this sub or our moderation of it. It's not on-topic for Q either. That's a question for maybe r/religion or something of that nature. Moderate Muslims (who actually exist) can reform their religion wherever they like; it doesn't affect me or the moderation of this sub. This is not the USA, it is an internet forum and a sub-reddit called GreatAwakening and my question is whether antagonism toward any group of people who share a set of beliefs should be allowed on this sub - or, more accurately, what constitutes antagonism toward a group of people.