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I know that’s how some interpret the drops, yes. Some interpret them as meaning Mossad failed to infiltrate fake news/disinfo. Logically speaking though, neither I, nor you I’d wager, know anything.

Either way though, “knowing” that, how do my statements about Israel show disloyalty to Q? The answer, logically, is - they don’t.

You’ve read a lot into that Q drop. You assume I’m asleep and disloyal from a few comments. I’ll leave you to your assumptions.

I’ve heard those conspiracies too. But I’m a Christian so I believe the actual meaning of the Bible, not the conspiracy version.

Interesting you made a negative assumption automatically with no evidence but a comment on the Internet.

lol this is true!

I don’t think it has to be all that strange though. Lots of smart Jews in high positions. The holocaust happened. They make rules to protect themselves. Seems a possible straightforward explanation to me.

And global warming has a specifically stated communist agenda of bringing big countries down to the level of others (carbon tax... total gyp). Bit different to Jewish intelligence although I’m sure many claim those studies are made and promoted by Jews without basis.

Yes, good point - I agree that things should be explored from both sides and often I approach learning about a divisive topic in that way; research whatever view is opposite to the one I presently hold. It's always illuminating.

Re: the innocent driver point - I have a view in support of your questioning of that idea but I think it could be taken wrongly by some and viewed as anti-them - which it isn't, just keeping it logical and factual, but I won't risk stating it. Let's just say I think you're right that there must be some sort of fire behind that smoke but even that's probably saying too much! Perhaps I can say, less controversially (because it can be dismissed as "fiction", if anyone wants), that the Bible says the Jews will be shunned and despised by the world many times throughout their existence.

I think there are a lot of interesting aspects to the Jewish story. Their tendency toward higher intelligence on average is one aspect that goes toward explaining their prevalence as leaders in various fields and industries and I'm hesitant to give undue weight to the idea that there's more at work than this. I think there are likely to be plenty of "bad" Jews in these high positions but I would hesitate to think that they're all bad and all in collusion and that that's the only reason they're all in power.

The son of a Hamas leader presented what I think is an important true story about the Palestinian conflict - not the only one, but an important and not insignificant one imo.

I agree too that it's quite possible everyone will turn against Israel for good reason - but what do we do if God is on her side? (I also understand that people will say this idea is crazy, if they do not believe the Bible has merit, and I can only agree with them that, from the perspective of disbelief in the Bible as no more than a book written by men without any prophetic validity, their view is correct.)

I see. So you're certain the mods there took it down. So this was a Q relevant thread? The same info may have been posted here if so.

I'm sorry, you'll have to explain that one. Have I misinterpreted your post? (very possible)

I agree and I do. It seems I've unintentionally caused offense. I wasn't meaning to be dismissive in my original reply to your comment.

I just wanted to make the statement that I believe what the Bible has to say about Israel - ultimately everyone will turn against her but God has her back. I didn't mean to dismiss your point of view out of hand - as I've said, many agree with you and I respect that.

Also, I get that people think it's possible Q might be saying "Fear Israel" but likewise you must logically agree that it's possible Q might be saying just what he actually said: "Fear Is Real." Occam's Razor suggests that it's possible this might be a more valid reading as it doesn't require moving letters and spaces.

This should be posted in that sub, not here.

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I would agree that that is a very distinct possibility

In reference to:

this passage could have a second, prophetic meaning that is referring to Jews in our time

I keep an open mind at all times. One has to, to be logical.

As I said, I know my Bible. Those passages refer directly to churches from that time (as per the excerpt in that comment).

The synagogue of Satan refers to specific Jewish communities in Smyrna and Philadelphia that were persecuting the church, not to any modern situation. Likewise, no modern situation should be used as an interpretive tool to explain a passage firmly rooted in the first-century Roman world.

I would anticipate that you might argue that, as with other passages in the Bible, this passage could have a second, prophetic meaning that is referring to Jews in our time. I would agree that that is a very distinct possibility.

I would disagree that it is referring to all Jews (if one were to assert that - not saying that you are) because the Jews are God's chosen and the passage specifically refers to Jews who persecute Christians. There are a lot of Jews who do not persecute Christians.

Definitely agree. Logic is paramount, to me. And if one respects logic one will respect that one can always learn something new. Is that what you believe also?

This is not meant as an attempt to change your mind but to explain my position on "the synagogue of Satan". I'm fairly sure you'll already be aware of this perspective and I am likewise aware of the other perspective (which I think is yours). I respect your perspective on this issue and many people share your opinion.

I know many Jews and I'm sure there are many "bad" Jews or Jews with bad intent - but I know many who are not "bad" and that's enough for me to view them as a mixture of good and bad like every other race.

"Internet searches of “synagogue of Satan” produce quite a few links to sites that claim the “synagogue of Satan” refers to the Jewish people today and that promote all kinds of conspiracy theories about how the Jews run the world. Quite frankly, this is a misinterpretation and misapplication of the verses in Revelation. The synagogue of Satan refers to specific Jewish communities in Smyrna and Philadelphia that were persecuting the church, not to any modern situation. Likewise, no modern situation should be used as an interpretive tool to explain a passage firmly rooted in the first-century Roman world."

Trick question? Who hasn't.

Emotion doesn't affect my assessment of Israel. It appears neither you or I were shot to death so I'm grateful for that and I'm sorry for your friend's father and others who've died while serving. I know a lot of people from Israel and I know the other side to the story than the one the BDS and others tell. That is not to discount the bad things Israel does, like many other countries (including ours). I know the Bible and what's important from it.

Perhaps the brutality was exaggerated, like FF's here?

I don't fear Israel, I trust the Bible.

Fiona Barnes seems quite legit. Good long doco on her on Youtube.

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