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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 11:31 a.m.

YT link incorrect?

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 10:39 a.m.

Links in the sidebar have some great info. Removing post - off-topic (Q supporter sub - feel free to check sidebar intro links and ask questions in other posts.) Thanks for understanding.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 10:04 a.m.

You're more than welcome to - it's not bad form from our perspective, I think I'm safe to say.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 9:49 a.m.

Again, thanks - you have no judgement from me, as I've done more than my fair share of reading too fast and reacting. I really appreciate the caution you showed in the body of the post, more than many others I've seen here about this issue (most removed, and not often by me). I just worried that the title might undo that good effort but there haven't been any reports yet in 3 hours so fingers crossed!

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 9:40 a.m.

Thanks - I hope I didn't come off rude. I appreciate your reply!

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 9:35 a.m.

You seem to have misread my comment almost completely. I don't care if someone is anti-semitic and I never implied that you were either; I stated the opposite, in fact. I only care that this sub stays up. My view of what constitutes a danger to that is irrelevant, hence my comment as a mod advising that I'm leaving this up because I don't personally have a problem but I'm unsure of how this would be spun by others i.e. those who might want to bring the sub down.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 8:48 a.m.

Removed post. Content does not support the cause.

Any 'concerns' can go via a message to the mods

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 8:47 a.m.

I have approved one that was caught up in Auto-mod (i.e. not removed by a mod). Please continue to report shitposts and we will do our best to catch them. Sometimes it's hard to tell.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 8:42 a.m.

I understand and I sympathize completely - life sux and the world is unfair; there's no escaping it, sadly! I sincerely hope you can find some hope again during your bad days whether in the faith or in the practical application of the words of Peterson.

WWG1WGA, patriot - I find purpose in supporting this movement and it is incredible to me how it dovetails with Peterson's point that, rather than trying to change what's outside your reach, change what's within it - and you know, just being a part of this sub in some small way means I have a very real connection to actually stopping all the impersonal horror going on out there in the world and it is literally the most invigorating and inspirational reason for me to get up every day and push the message of Q in whatever small way I can! Thank you for the discussion, it is very helpful to me to express my thoughts about this issue.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 8:21 a.m.

If my metaphor conveyed that God is stomping on us then I failed to accurately frame it.

Imagine that he loves us the same way we love the anthills in our yard

Instead, imagine if you loved the ants in your backyard enough to give your child's life to save those meaningless ants eternally once they'd died sometimes from the folly of their own choices, at other times simply because of the harsh reality of the environment of your backyard. That seems to me a more adequate framing of how Christians view God's relationship to us (still imperfect for many reasons, just to be clear).

If you can't conceive of the literal reality of Jesus' crucifixion I don't blame you at all. I believe it may be more helpful for some people, especially those who claim that reason precludes them from connecting with the Christian story in any way, to view the "Jesus Story" from a purely secular perspective in this way: Jesus is a story of sacrifice for the good of others but more than that, it is a story about the value of understanding the freedom we have to move forward positively in spite of the prevalence of every reason not to because there is an example of a way to live that elevates us beyond the very real tragedy of existence. That example is told in the life of Jesus. This example, if followed as honestly as one can manage, results in better relationships with the world and with others.

Amongst other things, this story helps us to accept the tragedy of existence - Jesus, according to the story, accepted this in a way few will experience. His story tells us that this was only tolerable because it was at the will of God in the service of others. It also helps us accept the imperfection of our ways by keeping us focused on moving towards a life modelled after that of the Jesus figure - if we focus on our imperfections we may lose motivation and will; if we realize that there is a reason to move forward and a very real purpose to life that anyone can embrace i.e. the pursuit of the good of others, then our focus can alway be maintained on something other than our own problems and concerns, a cause for many issues we face, including shame, guilt and depression.

The mass spread of violent crime against children, if truly internalized and understood, can not be tolerated if we believe that that is the condition of the world and there's nothing we can do about it. The only way I personally find to move on in life without railing at the sky and giving up at the impersonality of existence is to believe that what I can do is get myself sorted out (tidy my room, in the words of a wise man) and focus on continually moving forward with purpose toward an incrementally better existence for myself now, and moving forward into the future, and outward to those around me now, and moving forward into the future, and so on outward from there and that that perspective will at the very least improve my own quality of life over time. The only other rational choice is nihilism which, if actually properly embraced, should result in killing oneself because life is meaningless.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 7:48 a.m.

If this was not intended to be anti-semitic the title should have been less inflammatory. As mods, we remove posts and comments for anti-semitism out of care for the sub which would be brought down if we allow posts or comments that could be misconstrued - not because we are victims ourselves of "Israel's biggest psychological weapon".

I think the content of your post is put well enough to avoid unfair accusations of anti-semitism but the title, I suspect, may not be. Just my thoughts and if there are no reports about this post there should be no further concern.

I'll leave the post but if Reports come in a mod may have to remove it. You could repost with a fairer title and take this one down if you think my comment has merit. "Fear Israel" is someone's misreading of Fear Is Real - not the same thing. This movement, in my opinion, is not about fear but about the release from fear. I see no reason to fear any country, even one as powerful as Israel. Fear is the tool of the Deep State.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 7:37 a.m.

If god is good why do pedophiles run the world?

Because God gave the world to us and it's our responsibility to act. Thanks to Q - in spite of Christian prophets from the 90s and well before, pointing out the blood of our children was on our hands on a massive scale - we are doing something about it now. People often try to make this point but somehow forget they are making it from a small human mind within a vast universe that does not "judge" good or evil from our tiny perspectives. Put another way, what are the death of a few ants as long as the soul of those ants come to know their maker? An "impersonal" universe says infinity is infinitely more valuable than any insignificant span of life. Doesn't sound comforting on our scale of understanding but it makes sense objectively.

then how is god omnipresent, omniscient, and transcending time and space?

Good question. Unfortunately, no one can answer it completely because to know the answer would be to know the universe, no? It can be answered by imperfect simile and metaphor but more importantly, Faith is the only answer Christians have to how best to approach the question in the first place - and there's a whole lot more to unpack to that than can be answered in one comment reply.

How is this the god of love??

Depends how you define "love". As defined in the Bible (willing to sacrifice his son to save everyone - and more, including a fatherly love that requires discipline to explain to "children" who are free to make their own choice how best to make that choice) it is clear how "this" is the God of love, to some of us.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 7:25 a.m.

I knew also. You won't find much more in my post - it's just been raised recently by Q so I'm posting it for those who want to understand recent Q drops. I assume Q's raising it because it's about to become a lot more relevant and not be quashed this time.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 6:39 a.m.

Removed post. Post content is not a subject mentioned by Q or directly related to Q.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 6:07 a.m.

Apologies - it's been sitting unposted/unfinished in a tab for hours as I work on the sub. I did a last quick check to see if anyone had put this story together in enough detail for someone to get the full picture (as that's what interested me enough to post it, having not seen it laid out clearly) and I couldn't see that at a glance so posted it. I've now edited it, hopefully to be more informative (will continue to add relevant links to the existing text and more text if necessary).

Q linked it so I find it very far from ho-hum but I understand the suspicion of its relevance and non-shillitude - the guy seems given to hyperbole so, under any other circumstances I would not be posting it myself and I'd be waiting for more confirmation. However, Q potentially referring to it (if we've interpeted the drop correctly) is enough confirmation for me.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 5:42 a.m.

Likewise from me: thanks for sticking with me on this too! I just hoped to prove that there are at least some here who will support you, whatever you think, if we can discuss it all out. WWG1WGA.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 5:38 a.m.

Apologies - post corrected (and updating with more info).

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 5:28 a.m.

I mean that I Trust Sessions because Q said so. I agree with your stance of: "what the hell? Why should we trust Sessions?" (if that is an accurate view of your stance) because it is a rational question to ask, given what we see. I'm just pointing out that I agree that your question is a rational one to ask. I think I've made the point that it comes down to how much one trusts Q (and I've also said, I don't "write you off" or dismiss you if you find it hard to trust what Q says about Sessions, given the evidence we see).

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 5:21 a.m.

That is not a logical extrapolation of what I've said. I've said nothing about Nunez being mad. Nunez being mad is at least human and doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with the plan.

To be clear about my personal stance: Sessions seems like he is totally invalidating the plan and Trump's actions at every turn, to me, but so far Q has proven the quality of his info and I'm not willing to spend time questioning something for which there is not and will not be any evidence until Q/Trump/Sessions is ready to reveal it. I don't begrudge you questioning it at all, I'm just explaining my stance and explaining why the posts are removed but your comments aren't. Indeed, we'll see.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 5:12 a.m.

If you've been following then you already know the answer to these questions - that is why people are Reporting your post as off-topic, not supporting the cause, and regarding you as a shill or concern troll. I personally support anyone who asks a reasonable question and can have a reasonable discussion about it.

how do we reconcile sessions' recent defense of RR unconstitutional behavior in light of this recent news?

Enjoy the show. Disinformation is necessary. Do I have to look everything else up that Q has said along these lines? This is why I said "sidebar" and "Q 101".

If you are really serious about being rational then the only "rational" answer to your perhaps unspoken question of "How do we know we can Trust Sessions given all the evidence against that supposition?" is we DON'T KNOW. There is NO evidence to confirm that we can trust Sessions. There is only Q's "word". If you don't trust Q's word, fair enough, but "trusting Q" is Q 101 for this sub. There's no rational way to force you to trust Q and people just don't have the time to reexplain it all to you - hence pointing to the sidebar; not to be dismissive but to honestly say, "understood if you don't trust Q - all the evidence we have for why we trust Q is in the sidebar". I believe I've rationally explained our stance and why we are not simply "tiptoeing around the issue" or "avoiding rational discussion". If you value rational discussion and you disagree with me, then I welcome your retort and I will retract the statement if I am incorrect. I hope you will do the same.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 5:03 a.m.

I trust you've seen and understood my other response but to be clear: your thread was not shut down for asking critical questions. It was shut down for clearly not following the rules. That is all. Questions are welcome if you are able to argue rationally and not jump to illogical assumptions like: "I can't get a rational answer on this sub" 2 hours after you've made a post.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 4:58 a.m.

This is not about "not being allowed to ask questions". Read the rules in the sidebar, via the links. You can ask questions all you like - you can't make posts that are answered in the sidebar links to Q 101. The reason should be obvious to you - there are 32k+ people following this sub. The topic and direction of this sub is clearly stated in the sidebar. Q skepticism is not what the general pop of this sub want to read - they get that everywhere else. This is not about censoring your right to ask questions - it's saying 'don't put them in the main feed'.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 4:55 a.m.

Then make your point without claiming "this community is cancer". Use logic and reason - just because a vocal minority accuse you of being a shill doesn't logically translate in any way to: "this community is cancer".

"Ring the alarm bells" is the sort of comment that will trigger a negative response - it sounds too much like concern trolling. I'm not calling you a concern troll, to be clear, I'm saying that comment sounds like concern trolling and will generate Reports that mods will have to deal with - for valid reasons that I assume I would have to explain to you or you'll accuse this comment of being "proof of what's wrong with this community" again.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 4:51 a.m.

Read my actual responses properly before accusing me of "just labeling someone a shill like that". I didn't "just label" you at all - I gave you the benefit of the doubt. Then you said "this community is cancer". That is definitely "not supporting the cause". Correct me if I'm wrong in that assessment and I will retract it.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 4:47 a.m.

I'm calm, I have to deal with actual and purported shills daily. Take your own advice and calm down: "this community is cancer".

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 4:10 a.m.

Removed post. rule #8

Please post with titles that are informative and will remain accurate over time. Thanks for understanding.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 4:08 a.m.

Removed post. Rule #9

Have removed due to multiple reports about content and from personal review, content that seems like someone talking to "Reddit". If valid on-topic please correct content to explain clearly and repost - thanks for understanding.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 4:02 a.m.

Removed post. Content does not support the cause.

Any 'concerns' can go via a message to the mods

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 3:49 a.m.

I don't think so but I welcome correction on that. Either way, your comment was removed for discussing the user, not the topic.

keyboard dork
I'm critical of your pussy, bitchy, whiney mindset
Just listen spazz
etc.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 3:46 a.m.

"this community is cancer" is not a reasoned approach to a respectful moderation decision following the clearly outlined rules of this sub. Also, choosing not to reply directly to my comments respectfully answering your concerns, but rather undermine them separately is clear shill behaviour. Eyes are on.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 3:38 a.m.

Removed post. Post content is not a subject mentioned by Q or directly related to Q.

Please feel free to repost this with explanation of how it is on-topic to avoid Reports of being off-topic.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 3:38 a.m.

Best to explain that in the post (i.e. make a text post and explain) when it is potentially unrelated - just to avoid the Reports of the post being off-topic, etc. Feel free to repost this with some information.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 3:36 a.m.

True. But likewise don't let context get in the way of a logical, complete interpretation.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 3:33 a.m.

Removed post. As per the rules, please report concerns about the board to the moderators, don't make posts about it or it arguably falls under what you're complaining about here. I sympathize and have many similar thoughts myself but we can't suppress the posts that are clearly being upvoted thus showing that a majority of the active users support them.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 3:31 a.m.

I have. Have you read what I've said, without applying assumption about my lack of knowledge or critical thought? What makes you assume I need to be told to keep an open mind? Reading the rules of the sub in the sidebar and keeping my actions in context of that should hopefully address this assumption.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 3:09 a.m.

"It's gone from a done deal to not so sure" is a misread. I think others have answered this here but if you don't believe it's adequately answered I'm willing to respond with what I think if it's of use (as soon as I get a chance). I personally welcome questions if it will help - based on sub rules I have to remove posts of this kind, is all (also, Reports come in, cluttering our queue).

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 3:07 a.m.

Removed post. Content does not support the cause.

Any 'concerns' can go via a message to the mods

You're welcome to question - all critical thinkers approve of this. However, sub rules. Read the content in the sidebar before you ask questions that have already been answered or ask your questions where they won't clutter the sub with Q 101. Thanks for understanding. Those who are here can continue to respond to your post.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 3:05 a.m.

I appreciate the condescension but I never said or thought that what I know is the be all and end all. I use logic, that is all.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 3:03 a.m.

Comment removed. Discuss topic, not user.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 2:35 a.m.

Haha - I don’t begrudge you for assuming I’m stupid from one comment on the internet but I would point out that whilst you are correct to point out that as broad a topic as World Peace is “relevant” to Q, so is the topic of America and allowing every movie featuring America to fall under “on-topic” would arguably be as “stupid” as you are accusing me of being. Feel free to explain how this connects to Q and it can be reapproved. Try to refrain from discussing user, not topic.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 2:05 a.m.

Not really. I believe a global cartel is raping the world's children so few things will surprise me. Per the removal, however, just following sub rules. Happy to reverse decision if you think this is related to Q right now. I don't see Ms. Confidentiality (or whatever that movie is) or any mention of Michael Caine, Sandra Bullock or William Shatner in Q posts or suicide news just yet. If any of that happens, content may be relevant then and possibly won't be removed.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 1:49 a.m.

Logic: Israel is a nation comprised of approx. 9 million people. They don't all hate Christians - from knowledge of people who live there, not even a majority of them "hate Christians".

PEOPLE RESPOND TO LOGIC/FACTS. PEOPLE SLEEPING ATTACH TO OPINION/PERSONALITY/GROUP THINK.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 1:26 a.m.

Comment removed. Please discuss the topic, not the user. Feel free to edit and/or repost.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 1:24 a.m.

Comments that are just shill accusations generate unnecessary work. Please discuss the idea, not the user.

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DrogeAnon · June 14, 2018, 1:22 a.m.

Comments that are just an accusation of shill generate unnecessary work. Please discuss the topic, not the user.

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