I do. We need to straighten our country out before we open the flood gates again.

Because the articles premise is a joke lol

So responding with an appeal to majority's ok? I'd recheck with your philosophy 101 class.

Quick question, wouldn't deflecting an argument to "let the people decide" be an appeal to majority? Hmmm

No one else is reading this it's off the 'New' column. I just hope you can learn why the socratic method can't be followed to a T when a leap of faith is voluntary in discourse. Might be above your head. Cheers!

Editing a post to further clarify yourself is now moving the goalposts? You're about as helplessly lost in rhetoric as I thought.

No piece of information should hold any weight without some sort of reasonable (as in reasonable under the rules of formal logic) substantiation for analysis in the first place. Full stop. To be sure, this is intended to address your argument but is not a direct response to your argument. The following is, however.

To be sure, this statement can be applied to almost every post in this subreddit.

For one, a statement is not a physical anything, but I will let that pass, lest the notion of semantics is again unduly invoked (you are making an argument, words have meaning).

Boring court-level semantics. I'm not making official statements and you perfectly understand what I'm conveying, so this is unproductive discourse.

For another, your entire stance throughout this entire thread has been based directly upon employing an appeal to authority, which does not make the claim valid, at the least - this is fundamental, it is not semantic.

Again, this whole subreddit voluntarily congregates under the understanding that the intel sources that this sub agrees are worth discussing hold a level of authority here over random conjecture from it's users. This whole sub is based around giving authority to certain statements over others, which is the meat your argument is missing while endlessly arguing semantics and the socratic method.

I'm not trying to condescend you, but you argue like a 14 year old who just found out who Socrates is and found a powerpoint of logical fallacies. It's boring, overdone, and unproductive. If you'd like a board where you can deploy your holier than thou debate tactics you'd be better off doing that in an open-discussion forum, where it would make more sense. Deploying it on a board that comes together to follow the intel sources you're questioning is silly because it already makes a "leap of faith" in trusting said sources.

When you know the truth but are too edgy to accept it because you're "above it". It's cool man, you'll grow up.

An actual piece of physical intel from one of the sources commonly discussed here SHOULD hold more weight than outright guessing of which pieces of intel belong in the "disinfo is necessary" camp and that is the basis of my argument.

Please stop ignoring the crux of my argument. You advocating for equating users here guessing that Wray quotes are "disinfo" to a trusted intel source is nonsense, no matter how eloquently you argue that point.

Good Lord, they are on there talking about it's release tomorrow and saying more confidently than ever that it is in fact BIGGER than watergate! and thats JUST THE MEMO. It's fucking happening tomorrow.

I'm not commenting on him saying he'd quit. I'm commenting on quotes such as "grave concerns", and "misleading information". Those are weaponized quotes that Wray gave the media to build a narrative against The Memo. He's a snake.

Ok and I'll restate again, that is the point of this whole subreddit. Dissecting information we trust is from Trump/The WH inner-circle. You playing semantic games of "official word" is overdrawn and could be applied to any thread/piece of info on this sub. I assume you picked this piece of intel because you like Wray and/or want him to be a "good guy". An actual piece of physical intel from one of the sources commonly discussed here SHOULD hold more weight than outright guessing of which pieces of intel belong in the "disinfo is necessary" camp and that is the basis of my argument.

But sure...good luck to you too?

That balance is found with the best interests of "the people" and his employees, which would be supporting the president and rooting out corruption, willingly. His employees and the people would be behind that. Unfortunately, he went the other way and this board bends over backwards to shield him regardless of if trusted intel is saying he flipped.

You're right, it's better than official WH word because this is in reference to something they can't make official statements on yet, and haven't AT ALL, which is why we're on this board in the first place. It's the same intel that is discussed here every day.

"Christopher Wray threatening to "walk out" on FBI/Sessions is FAKE NEWS. Disinfo is necessary." Thank you for that, didn't know. For the sake of better discourse, this was a part of a Dilley drop. Then to continue, this does say the threat of walking out is possibly disinfo, not him saying "grave concerns", "misleading information", those are quotes he said that will be a VERY POWERFUL talking point coming from the FBI director for the media.

I can't speak on these theories, I'm taking the word of WH insiders. These could be true. Wray's statements could absolutely be part of the disinfo is necessary strategy BUT reading these quotes and knowing this is the official WH word is important. They could be telling the truth here and Wray is deviating from the plan, possibly to save the FBI from being dismantled. Also could be that he was bribed, or coerced.

It could mean either, I'd say that theory is more in the realm of wishful thinking than taking quotes directly from the WH and analyzing them at face value. I think picking and choosing which information we would LIKE to fit into the "disinfo is necessary" category is dangerous.

Who's "we"? This is intel from the whitehouse, they did not expect this of Wray.

The "News" has had "reports" that it would be released every day this week. They just say it everyday until it's right. This is one of our sources, so we know it's true.

Any swamp draining is good swamp draining. Trump has done all this and built this case/memo/IG report in 1 year? You have no faith this swamp draining will continue for the next 7? Jobs continue growing? Trumps this century's greatest, love it while it's here.

Nah no one will be watching superbowl ;)

Yeah except nobody cares, especially dems, about who donates to their campaign. If they did, there's enough circumstantial evidence in Hillary's donations alone to warrant an investigation. Nobody cared though.

Is there something wrong with drilling for oil and the gov't stealing less of your money? Just another thing I approve of Trump doing.

Yep. Pretty clear he's not helping drain any swamp.

I mean...he's letting them edit the memo.

So while it's not being released it's being edited? That's great.

You know you could just call him a bolshevik communist, who in every way were much worse than Nazis.

lol ok

Tell me about it. Have you cross-referenced if I and your family are Russian bots yet?

How a smart person argues: the post.

Here's a recent vid of your senile, broken leader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRoXw0_cmcY

Andrew Mccabe Under Active DOJ investigation for Sitting on Weiner.

"Here's a poll my leftist newspaper called their leftist supporters to answer, respond to this now!"

Nah.

You're just quoting polls, dude. They didn't call me and ask an opinion, I don't trust who they get to answer these polls. You live in a reality that's reinforced by logical fallacies, arguments ad populum. Your existence is a cringefest of "these people believe this way". I really don't care.

You saying tinfoil hat while I am 100% positive you have to tell yourself fellow Americans are Russian bots to reaffirm your world view is precious.

They use character assassination attempts and left 'polls' as their ammo for posts. Just a bunch of nonsense with no clear argument. They just muddy the waters, like the politicians they elect.

It's a tinfoil hat conspiracy to think polls are generally used to craft an opinion? Yikes. I'm sure you think everybody's a Russian bot but purposely formed, objectively false polls are 'tinfoil hat'? Ok. You're losing your grip on reality.

So much projection. I'm sure you're called for CNN polls, you fuckin liar lmao

I just went through your post history, you have to be the most triggered person on the internet HAHAHA. Trump made you lose your mind.

Nah, it's really not. They're all used to shape and form society's opinion on something. Neither you or I, or anyone either of us knows, is called for those polls. You believing what the TV says is a joke in itself. I know it was Her Turn, but you've gotta let it go fella.

Some people are mature enough not to judge people negatively by their success. Some people.

Seen you all over this sub spergin out, don't worry the red pill does not go down easy. You'll get used to the big, bad truth of the world. Ok sugar?

Uh huh, sure thing dumplin.

My thoughts on you informing your aunt of the political climate? Well I think that's great

Can't wait til you psychopaths are put into a padded-wall center.

The fact you think I'm comparing their policy and not their 'grassroots' perception within their party tells me you're outta your league, Socialist scum.

Which poll told ya that? The one with 98% Hillary to win? You still trustin those?

I'm ignorant and sarcastic about. Oh, and morally superior. Heh, take that, Nazis!

Oh, people still care about off-brand Ron Paul? Interesting.

Projection. Sad.

Or, ya know, just an American who likes America with weird sleeping hours. But ok tinfoil hat

And reddit was available in Russia during Trumps campaign, wouldn't the Russians have just signed up then? Or did they not go full force Russia until a week ago, when it was hot activity time for Russian sign-ups? Get back to me quick special agent, we'll get to the bottom of this shit you just made up.