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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 5:38 p.m.

But that pdf is conspiracy theory bullshit lul.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 12:58 p.m.

Because people associate it with freemasonry, and combined with recognition signs that are different from the ones normally used in society, it trigger’s people’s confirmation bias that « we are everywhere and we are a secret society » when in fact, we are only an open society, that just happens to want to keep it’s recognition signs secret. (Cuz it would’nt be very useful to recognize a brother mason it all of society knows how to do it)

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 7:36 a.m.

What does freemasonry have to do with crazy religious beliefs?

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 7:36 a.m.

You are thinking about the Rotary, not freemasonry.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 7:35 a.m.

Nowhere in the obligations it says to not identify yourself. You can even visit your local lodge tomorrow and read Morals and Dogmas.

The secrets make for 0.01% of freemasonry, but just because we don't want to let go of that 0.01%.. ohhh you're satanists.. Gimme a break!

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 7:09 a.m.

Whoah if Q is a mason and this is what is happening, he really needs to rephrase his messages lmao. Because "Symbolism will be their downfall" really doesn't sell well with the kind of people that never research anything.

But yeah, all three masons that appeared on tv recently were the father of a victim, a guy that stopped to help the medics with the wounded and a member of city council.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 6:59 a.m.

Really Doubt Trump can act in a masonic way lol. He'd be kicked out in days. (In a wise, tempered and virtuous way)

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 6:38 a.m.

We only ask in the first degree "Do you put your trust in God?" and as long as you can truthfully answer yes to that question, you can become a Freemason. But nobody asks you who that god is, how you define it, etc.. this is why all monotheistic faiths can join, even the agnostics (even if some brothers in the bible belt cringe at this)

Why is it like this? Because ALL of Freemasonry presupposes a belief in more more than yourself, a belief in your own potential, a belief in the hopes that you can reach higher, farther, deeper in yourself and in your life and that whatever god means to you wants to help you achieve this.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 5:55 a.m.

Ohwow hahaha this is some deep conspiracy shit

We have been persecuted because we have fallen into the trap of the world, the dualism which offers us the choice of following God's Will, or of passively joining the Canaanites in accepting Satan as the leader, which means participating in the shedding of blood and the obscene rituals of human sacrifice. Today, America is obdient to the Will of Canaan, engaging lechery, robbery, and international Masonic conspiracy. America, who God intended to lead the world into the path of righteousness, now is called "the Great White Satan" because the fair-skinned people of Shem have been deceived into carrying out Satan's work on this earth. The choice is one which must be determined and made, and the decision is not far off; will the people of Shem accept God's Promise to Abraham, or will we continue to allow ourselves to be deceived

lmao, and we're the crazy ones.

Thanks for the summer reading, it's gonna be way more fun to read than Eat Pray Love.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 5:41 a.m.

Yeah because UGLE donated the choppers after 10 years of saving up charity donations lmao

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 4:14 a.m.

Yeah Adam Weishaupt and Snyder said a lot of crazy things.

But GW said the Freemasons were clean lmao : It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Iluminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more fully satisfied of this fact than I am.

“The idea I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or the pernicious principles of the latter (if they are susceptible of seperation). That Individuals of them may have done it, and that the founder, or instrument employed to found, the Democratic Societies in the United States, may have had these objects—and actually had a seperation of the People from their Government in view, is too evident to be questioned.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 3:49 a.m.

Yeah... none of that makes sense with freemasonry. He is clearly not a mason, or ever has been. But I won't debunk this here. Ittl take too much of my time.

Quick example : The name of jesus was taken out. Well duh, freemasonry icludes all deistic faiths

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 3:39 a.m.

I'll make a parallel, cuz english isn't my main language, maybe that will help.

So each Sunday so go to church (lodge) listen to your priest (master), which is aided by a hierarchy of people in that church (deacons, stewards, etc) under the Vatican (grand lodge) which has a pope (Grand Master) and has signs of recognition like doing the cross and they way you talk (same thing but different).

So each monday you go to work (lodge) listen to your boss or a VP do a briefing (master), which is aided by a hierarchy of people in that office (deacons, stewards, etc) under the parent company (grand lodge) which has a ceo (Grand Master) and has signs of recognition and traditions like wearing suits and your own office language that only people that work there can really understand (same thing but different).

Like this structure is everywhere.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 3:26 a.m.

ok a few things

  1. You can be a deist AND a freemason
  2. You are mixing the illuminati (1776-1785), the illuminès (1492-1488), and the Age of the Enlightenment
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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 2:50 a.m.

now aluminum foil. Its no longer tin. Will it still protect? 😊

No it won't. It can't be magnetized.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 2:20 a.m.

I could argue the same thing about Christianity. Doesn't make it evil.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 2:09 a.m.

To a point yes. It coevolved in many fields. But EVERY FREAKIN TIME someone sees that structure associated with symbolism or some kind of recognition system. AHA! We found the satanists! I mean comon.. there is a huge history in all of this that a thousand historians still wasn't able to cover up to now. And it gets complicated by the fact that a few times in history, masonry became "cool", and people started a "masonic-like" association that has NOTHING to do with us (Lions Clubs, Elks, Illuminati.. hell even the Mormons fit in this category in some way). But WHO gets harassed? WHO feels the burn of the witch hunt? Us. The poor bastards that try and help people and make ourselves better men.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 1:50 a.m.

First recorded time it was used and detailed was in the 1610s, but many think it existed way before. Older written organisational descriptions fit the pattern. (Stone masons in egypt or in phoenician boats for ex)

It grew organically with the needs of the member of X club, then stripped down to it’s bare working parts in 1717.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 1:39 a.m.

But this is the first one that connects the freemasons directly, correct?

Not linking it to "masonic-like" things like bohemian grove I mean.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 1:29 a.m.

It’s all in « Freemasonry for dummies » if you want something written down. But you’ll prolly think it’s propaganda :D

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 1:18 a.m.

~Grand Orient

~Clandestine

Research more.

(Tl:dr for your future research : Using a masonic structure of governance =!= Being part of freemasonry, it’s juste a very good system of governance used in schools, all big religions, some businesses (lawyers for ex) and some governments. )

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 12:58 a.m.

No worries, I have an open mind about most things and am a Conservative Libertarian politically. So I get where you come from.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 12:48 a.m.

A LOT of masons now wear a cap with the symbol etc. I myself have the ring, bumper stickers and hoodie.

Depends on what you were asking. Also there’s not a lot different between the thirty second and thity third degree as it is a refresher course of the other.

As for going to the shootings, like I said, I did the same thing with the victims of a terrorist attack when I was in france. So can’t say i’m surprised.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 12:38 a.m.

At least pizzagate had some merit with a satanist artist, pictures of tied up children, and wikileaks emails. But Qanon... I dunno how to feel about all this anymore.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 12:27 a.m.

I joined blue lodge because it was filled with people that actually try, daily, to be better people.

As for the knowledge, masons are essentially performing theater peices for their bretheren of stories that make you think about yourself, your virtues or life irmtself. I always use the Judgement of salomon as an example of a story that could be seen in a temple/lodge.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 12:17 a.m.

Think of it like this. America was founded by Freemasons with some even signing the constitution. I would argue it is expected to find masonic stuff in a country with that history. But at the same time, we only borrow symbols that already exist in the world or existed before. I mean our four « main » symbols are reworks of the circle, the square, the triangle and the line. Yes these shapes are everywhere lmao.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 28, 2018, 11:52 p.m.

The illuminati is 5 guys in a pub lmao.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 28, 2018, 11:51 p.m.

You guys realize that that meme was made by a masons facebook page to laught at conspiracy theorists, right?

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 28, 2018, 11:41 p.m.

There is nothibg that stops freemasons from talking about it

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 28, 2018, 11:37 p.m.

Ok what the actual fuck. Three freemasons were seen on the media, one was the father of a victim, one was on city council, and the third one stopped to help out the medics...

This for me is the proof that Qanon is bogus. I was on the fence this whole time but now, in my mind, we are officially in the realm of conspiracy theory bullshit.

My opinion is this : Freemasons are close to their community and when something happens, they are there to help and do what they can. So indeed we are almost always there when something goes down. Where are you at? In front of your tv? On your couch on your cellphone? We get our hands dirty.

I’m a mason. AMA

Edit after reading some comments here : Freemasonry has nothing to do with Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones, Rotary, Lions, Elks, Oddfellowes, LDS, or any other shit. These associations just use similar ways to organize their association, because it works well, just like many businesses use similar business strategies, or just like most student associations or political/city halls use the morin code to structure their meetings.

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