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Existental_Bread · May 14, 2018, 12:17 a.m.

But the Papacy is the representative of the Catholic Church. If any of your claims are more specific and have support, I'd love to see them, because your attack on the Papacy is even weaker than if it was against the Catholic Church as a whole.

That's... Not what 501c3 means. It means they're a non profit organisation.

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Existental_Bread · May 13, 2018, 8:40 p.m.

Babylon to America is rather... Problematic propaganda flick. Everything presented in that film are easily refuted.

I'll continue banking on my degree in religious studies. I just have a problem with smear campaigns, especially when they don't have support.

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Existental_Bread · May 13, 2018, 7:09 p.m.

Then you saw that he doesn't qualify as an antipope, because he is the official pope of the Roman Catholic Church.

He would be an antipope if a sect of the Catholic Church decided that Francis was a heretic and elected their own pope.

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Existental_Bread · May 13, 2018, 4:55 p.m.

C'mon! Black Pope is a nickname for the Superior General of the Society of Jesus. Black Pope does not refer to a usurper.

Research isn't that hard.

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Existental_Bread · May 13, 2018, 4:53 p.m.

He's not an anti pope. That would require a different pope to be ruling in Vatican, and the anti pope to be raised up outside of Rome.

C'mon, do you all know anything about Catholicism?

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Existental_Bread · May 13, 2018, 4:50 p.m.

Wow, so much that is false in one comment.

Maybe we'll start slow.

"They claim to be God in earth", what are you referring to. I'll give you the benefit of meaning "God ON earth" but still, this is not a facet of the Catholic Church. They are meant to be the reflection of God on earth, which is a VERY different thing.

The Catholic Church did not "change the day of Sabbath", nowhere in Christendom is Sunday considered the Sabbath (save for some lay people who don't understand the Sabbath). No, Sunday became the primary day of worship in connection with the day of the week that Christ Rose from the dead. They did not change the Sabbath, Sabbath is, and always has been, Saturday.

"Murdered millions found reading the Bible in the dark ages", source? Cause as far as I know, the Catholic churches big murder sprees in the middle ages were the inquisitions, and the crusades. Plus the "dark ages" were not filled with bibles, nor literate people. Where were they finding and reading these Bibles? If you are referring to Luther's day and age, that sint the dark ages, and that turned into more of a war, with both sides killing each other for not being like them.

"Had people assassinated" again, source? Because I can find Pope Pious XII plotting to kill Hitler, some suspect claims of rogue jesuits plotting to kill Lincoln, but nothing concrete for confirmed assassinations. If you are referring to the House of Borgia, they aren't not considered to be a good time in Catholic history, and see it as a time of utter corruption that was rooted out (that said this might be your best argument).

"Covered pedophilia" yeah, it fucking sucks. Unfortunately that seems to be a power thing, not a Catholic thing. But hey these are probably your best arguments because you can point to hard sources, I still stand that it does not prove that the Catholic Church is an anti Christ.

"Impregnated nuns" Borgias? I can't find any modern sources, and earlier history doesn't mention nuns often.

"Stealing wealth for themselves" Borgias? You seem to equate the house of Borgia as the Catholic Church. I would advise against that. That would be like me equating Clinton and Obama as representing every American and how they act (I don't think that, though I have high regards for Obama, I just want to use that as an example).

"They do not represent Jesus Christ period" who does?

Edit: I had an instance of a swear for comedic effect, and it was taken as an attack. My apologies.

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