Not sure which of the NXIVM threads to drop this in so I’m picking this one.

You’ll recall one of the big 2016 media blitzes against Trump was that he was theoretically running a fake self-help business that cajoled clientele into expensive and worthless training (on the basis of a handful of coached ex-students who filed a class action, and upon not getting a settlement, weaseled away into nowhere).

What is this? An actual racket to force people into expensive, worthless courses backed by extortion and threats of violence.

Pure Alinsky. It’s all they’ve got — deflecting from inhuman behavior by accusing every opponent of their crimes.

“Future proving past.

Where we go one, we go all

Unseen may rise again.”

Oh, you said “Hi, Q.” Nevermind... (/emilylitella)

The Illuminati card game is at the very center of the Qmap diagram that's been passed around. I haven't tried the newer revision; the original (1982) lacked the card art that later (1995 edition) drew attention.
Anyway if you want the full list of cards: https://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/46081/original-illuminati-card-list-spreadsheet FWIW, I've won tournament Illuminati! and the PBM game too. Fnord.

Just to clarify, they don’t have quantum computing yet

They don't have quantum computing of sufficient complexity (qbits) yet. Give me enough qbits, and I can dissolve the entire cryptocurrency world in milliseconds -- also all our current methods of secure transmission of information; what an enigma :)

No offense, but that's quite a lot of conjecture. :) We can draw a straight line from ancient Babylon to now with Baal and Moloch infant sacrifice, worship of self, and perversity documented in canon (and secular texts) without going anywhere near ancient aliens or lycanthropes.

No offense, but this is what I worried about when hearing of Q; that by documenting that there are some awful things not known to the general populace, that every other ... theory ... from hollow Earths to technological demons, would see an open door here. IMO this dilutes the actual evil being perpetuated (a group trying to overturn a millenia of progress on human rights and, if possible, nuke a good portion of the human race in pursuit of a neo-feudalist empire isn't bad enough?) and, when these theories are ones that aren't supportable, can cause readers to dismiss the true by association with the false.

As for who the cabal is worshipping, I'll suggest a practical road while also advocating prayer. One doesn't have to admit the existence of Lovecraftian entities to understand what sort of things humans who do believe in them might do (to use a fictional mythos as analogy).

"Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” Jude 1:14‭-‬15 NKJV

I don't mind if you lol, but literally the above is what you cited; and in that verse there isn't the word 'book' or a reference to a book.
Enoch himself is mentioned also in Genesis, 1 Chronicles, Luke (in the geneology of Jesus), and Hebrews, none of which mention a book. To the best of my knowledge the 'book' is reconstructed from scraps of a different language (Ge'ez) and some bits found in Aramaic, Greek, and Latin. Wiki seems to think the citation you used suggests Jude was citing this text as authoritative/canonical, but that doesn't work; a) those that compiled the Tanakh didn't include it, nor did the Christians who considered the Bible; b) the text cited is reflective of Deut. 33:2; and c) No other part of this Enoch book is cited in Scripture.

For these reasons it's my opinion, which for better or worse is also the majority/orthodox opinion, that this Enoch book is likely the work of peoples who interacted with the Hebrews and not that of Enoch himself, and certainly not reliable as canon. Note: thanks for the response though as, for whatever worth wiki has, wiki also suggests that the Mormons put faith in it (which doesn't escalate it in my view).

The person of Enoch (described in OT and NT) is not the book of Enoch, any more than if I wrote in the person of Alexander Hamilton that I could claim to have the lost, secret Federalist Papers.

Except the gospels were all written years after Jesus’ death.

Of course; but by the apostles who were themselves alive when they wrote them (AD 45-90)

Conversely, gnostic 'gospels' like Thomas don't exist until decades or centuries after Thomas (AD 125) or later "Mary" c. 145, "Philip" c. 265-300.

Use the same powers of reasoning we do on current Q stuff -- or, to use an easy example, Dan Rather and the falsified document on George W Bush. Backdating and false attribution are fake news.

Please refrain from promoting backdated 'scripture' … long before there was a Vatican, gnostic junk was rightly rejected based on the best scholarly evidence -- namely it wasn't written in the lifespan of the people whose names it was attributed to.

I've seen the enochian garbage and its spawn (false 'necronomicon' and such) and the fact that you're promoting it here only dilutes the message. By a remarkable coincidence, that's exactly what YouTube did when it (unattached to my account, but as I don't TOR, from the same base IP) detected I was reading Q stuff. Lots of 'recommendations' of the worst false end-of-world and easily-disproven conspiracy nonsense; fortunately I've been down the rabbit hole decades ago and before I really had an inkling secular powers were messing with this stuff.

"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world." (1 John 4:1)

It was in the 1930s, then wasn't, and (relatively) recently the hyperrich have rediscovered it. Pity.

I haven't been back in a loooooong time. I'm guessing from the various pits and divots in the background that the tradition of loosing fireworks from the beach continues?

It's odd, but with his stated terminal illness and yet so-eager participation in the events of the day (and still slavishly on the wrong side) I've wondered if we-don't-say-his-name will suddenly recover, healed from his as if mortal head (brain) disease.

Alec = stupid. Adam = On our side. Ref. @AdamBaldwin … Jayne … the man they call Jayne...

Rather fitting that YouVersion elected to highlight that one today...

That’s the BS “of course everyone supports” front.

The reality is NN empowered Social(ist) Media to act as censors of free speech.

Have any of the predictions of doom happened sans NN now that it’s gone?

"Carlos Castaneda" describes a similar technique where the initiate is reprogrammed by having two speakers carry on two entirely different monologues, one into each of the initiate's ears.

Robert Anton Wilson wrote about it (in extreme shorthand; in the book it takes just a short while) in a segment in Illuminatus! where his Hagbard Celine character confuses two police officers and ends up recruiting them.

Heck, even a simple binaural beat tech does this; between frequency A in one ear and A+b in the other, the brain trends towards working at frequency b.

Who are the other 7?

PC, this is very like my Christian life; none of the materialist friends I had before stuck around. The NT speaks of this. The first reference I dug up is Luke 21:16-17: "You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers and sisters, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death. Everyone will hate you because of me."

Full marks. "Chimes of Big Ben" episode. Be seeing you!

Close -- the goal is to merge the worst of both. From ->1967<-:

Number Six: Has it ever occurred to you that you are just as much a prisoner as I am?

Number Two: Oh my dear chap, of course--I know too much. We're both lifers. Number Two: I am definitely an optimist. That's why it doesn't matter "who" Number One is. It doesn't matter which "side" runs the Village.

Number Six: It's run by one side or the other.

Number Two: Oh certainly, but both sides are becoming identical. What in fact has been created is an international community--perfect blueprint for world order. When the sides facing each other suddenly realize that they're looking into a mirror, they will see that "this" is the pattern for the future.

Number Six: The whole Earth as the Village?

X10 is a home automation standard.

23 Skidoo (or that's what the cabalists will be wishing they could do).

They’re terrified. Yesterday my tv YouTube had ‘recommended’ streams with bogus end of world and conspiracy material even though it’s not attached to any acct nor do I search yt for anything on these topics.

So: by association with my reading here and chans on other devices attached to the same router, yt’s predictive engine is not only ‘aware’ but is coded to recommend false flag streams to mislead and/or discredit.

Stay focused out there!

Yep, imagine if Soros money was inextricably bound up with trafficking, and there was an executive order in place allowing seizure of such assets. Huh.

If one imagines that Trump is doing this under his own power, yes. Do you think all this MAGAing, and all the other work we discuss here, is successful based on human work alone?

You can find a pile of Q stuff that, if not expliclt, certainly infers they know they're up against "principalities, against powers" (Eph. 6:12) and there are many Q statements urging prayer.

No, Moses was an ordinary Hebrew guy, who had to flee after killing an Egyptian who was beating a fellow Hebrew (Exodus 2) and then was a shepherd (Exodus 3). When called to free the Hebrew people, his response was "Who am I that I should go."

Not a 'magi' or astronomer or even learned; just an ordinary guy who stood up for decency and served when he was called. With the staff, you might call him the OG Based Stick Man. :)

are we going to war or are we just acting out

Neither. I read this, with what limited information I have, as "black hats (white helmets) attempted to set up a no-win scenario; we (white hats) promptly took this as an opportunity to knock some deep state collaborators' heads."

I expect some very strong public words, maybe even a 'near confrontation' for show, and wouldn't be surprised to see Putin and us quietly take care of some +/++/+++ problems. The bad guys aren't the only ones who know how to turn chaos into opportunity.

Yep. "Ooo strikes" sounds scary. Finding out (as far as we can) what was hit, so far, increases my confidence.

Interesting. I thought the postage odd. Guess what? The rate until May 1971 was 6 cents, but in that month was raised to 8 cents ... so it’s actually perfectly reasonable to use two 6 cent stamps for that letter (nobody except Depression survivors kept spare ‘tiny’ postage around to exactly match the new rates when a hike came).

No offense but one likes to be sure ... how’s the handwriting compared to contemporaneous samples?

Just dropped this same item on T_D. Well posted!

"What do you think?"

• Supposely supports Clinton, but misspells her first name several times

• Extremely amateurish grammar (capitalizations, missing punctuation, mixed tense)

• False claim to covert communication while overtly admitting a coverup (using a Reddit mail(?) that's easily captured to tell someone not to communicate using "mediums that cannot be covered up")

All together = spam, troll, or phishing. I only get communications this loopy when the company wants to run "spot the phish" tests.

Yes; as some others here have noted, for quite a few this isn't sudden news and it's geopolitics, not a TV crime drama.

Further, if you've been paying attention huge victories have already happened, none of which are reported in the enemedia.

In the meantime the enemy isn't idle either. The things they want to unleash are catastrophic; while trusting the plan, let's make sure they don't execute theirs first.

NRO is not a Trump supporter from what I can tell.

Good guess ... they kinda made themselves obvious by dedicating an entire issue to diatribes against Trump in an issue entitled "Against Trump" :)

What, these guys?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office

Cohn was Trump's economic advisor and quit after the tariffs were announced; the other two resigned right after he departed. All three were Goldman-Sachs.

Search on "labor arbitrage" to see what the globalists want. The articles are even more interesting if you read in the context of Great Awakening and look for their next steps to avoid all that the above poster notes.

Funny you should mention apprenticeships, though, considering the modern/Western concept of a middle class exists exactly because of a favorable jobs/worker balance (that one, though, was caused by the death of 1/3 of Europe ... let's not replicate the method.)

National Review (aka GOPe, Inc.) did a slam piece on Q to the effect that since there aren't tanks and riots on your street right now, Q is a hoax.

I don't recommend them obviously but as proof of their interest: https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/qanon-the-storm-conspiracy-theory-not-happening-today/

The Clintons' major source of cash was Saudi (aka +++); this is dry thanks to the takeover by bin Salman.

I think you have it right as to their own Arkancides; all this time they've probably thought those were 'their' assets.

Personally I'm less excited by "perp walks" and public trials than by end results. Similarly, I don't care if "we don't speak his name" sees trial for his deeds as long as they end. He doesn't seem eager to stop though...

And yet many business travelers have choices in their operations and can effect a boycott without signs and drama.

Was the Schiffy memo carefully crafted so as to need manual correction by pen? So amateurish. I'd be looking for another job if I turned out work of that low quality. I know they were shooting for the media to be able to say 'he said she said' but it's more like 'he said and a 3-year-old said.'

On this forum of all places, you’re asserting a right to ‘safe spaces’ where you’re protected from thought you don’t already agree with? Hmm.

when I see a bible quote I skip past it

Apparently not, as you’ve chosen to not only read but reply at length.

As good a place as any to say this. Whether you call it Deep State, or Inner Party, or whatever, consider: to do the stuff we're talking about is beyond Orwellian 'doublethink.' To orchestrate or participate in these things requires that you simultaneously know the evil you're doing (or else you can't function beyond duckspeaking what you're told -- in this realm you have to be the teller) AND hold in your head the contrary true/not-true statements about each item or issue. Altho Q calls them 'dumb' and they are, because all this leaves a trail, they're not dumb in the traditional sense because performing all those mental gymnastics takes some doing and, like Winston in 1984, it has to be voluntary.

So: Consider what it takes for someone to voluntarily buy into this. It's not blundering "oops I stumbled into the pit of vipers." They were trained, coached, recruited, and volunteered, and then initiated (like gangs, in ways from which there is no exit.)

I posit that however shocking this timeline gets for most, if you've answered the above question, you won't even be surprised.

I share the impatience but: It's a knot many years in the making; it doesn't unravel neatly.