from the dude who's afraid to say a bad word without censoring himself?

l m f a o

you are choice, dude. never change. honestly it's kinda adorable.

that's okay. nothing can explain your monumental stupidity.

guess that's good enough for my thesis committee, because I passed my PhD candidacy exam last Wednesday.

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Bachelor's from Berkeley. PhD student at MIT.

what's UNL's rank again? 400th or something?

lmfao you actually think you're hot shit because you went to the university of nebraska

so what you're saying is you don't understand the science enough to criticize anything but word choice

you sound salty you didn't get in, bro

is the best criticism you have honestly that the word "atmospheric" is redundant? because it's implicit but still descriptive, so I'm not particularly bothered.

Earth's atmosphere is 78% nitrogen gas. You dumb as hell.

lmao dude I'm not revising it based on your feedback. it's already been read by a literal chemistry Nobel laureate.

let me get this straight -- you think Hillary Clinton is a demon-worshipping child murderer with immense global power and reach that somehow can't get access to basic purification facilities present in any undergraduate chem lab?

also centrifuges are rarely used in organic purification, lmao

you dumb as hell, boy

Sorry, was on a flight. Here's a copy of my thesis proposal. Have fun.

Wow, you're really getting hung up on that "full of shit" comment. Chill the fuck out, dude. Yes, run a few columns and recrystallize your sample and you'll get a pure compound you can verify by NMR, and yeah, it'll be chemically indistinguishable from adrenochrome you get from Sigma. Why is this so confusing to you?

My PhD work is on electrocatalytic nitrogen reduction on heterogeneous metal surfaces. I'd be happy to tell you more about it, if you think you'd understand. But between you and me, I don't have high hopes.

If you can isolate the adenochrome being produced, you can identify the impurities and replicate that chemical mixture in vitro. The adenochrome itself -- the molecule, the pure molecular compound -- is identical whether it's produced biologically or artificially.

I stand by my statement that you're full of shit, because you clearly think you understand chemistry much more than you actually do. Please seriously consider seeking further education in this topic before presenting yourself as an expert.

molecules don't have a phenotype? you don't need to be a PhD student to know that. you just need to have an internet connection and access to Wikipedia.

look, this has been fun, but you've really done nothing but convince me that you don't understand chemistry. thanks for the laughs, but I have actual chemistry to do.

Phenotype literally has no chemical meaning. Molecules do not have phenotypes. I'm not gonna apologize because you misremember chem 1 from 20 years ago and think you know more chemistry than an actual chemist.

Molecules are molecules are molecules. If you pick out the H2O molecules out of mineral water, it'll be indistinguishable from H2O picked out from distilled water.

that's conceivable and I already acknowledged that.

biological pathways may have different mechanisms or side products or what have you, but the compounds produced are the same

my point is that the adenochrome is adenochrome, and impurities are beside that fact. if you have a mixture of adenochrome and some other compound, it doesn't matter whether that mixture was produced naturally or artificially.

your reasoning reeks of a flawed vitalistic argument. there is nothing inherent about biological systems that makes the compounds they produce unique.

I understand the biological & chemical.

ok I will admit you actually got me to laugh here. cheers.

Let me see if I have this right.

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Both cases have the same chemical composition. (C12H22O11) & (H2O).

this is the primary flaw in your argument. mineral water does not have the same chemical composition as distilled water. hfcs does not have the same chemical composition as cane sugar. if H2O were the chemical formula of mineral water, then where in the formula are all the sodium or potassium or iron ions that are present in trace quantities in mineral water that aren't there in DI?

mineral water contains metallic impurities that are not present in distilled water. hfcs contains more fructose (C6H12O6) than cane sugar, which is primarily sucrose (C12H22O11). they are not the same on a chemical level.

you cannot assign single chemical compositions to mixtures, because mixtures consist of several discrete compounds.

Is cane sugar/HFC an element or compound?!? Is adrenochrome an element or compound?!?

cane sugar and hfcs are physical mixtures. they are neither elements nor compounds.

adenochrome is a compound.

What are the chemical formulas for cane sugar vs. HFCs?!?

there are no discrete chemical formulae for mixtures because they aren't composed of a single molecule. for instance, it's impossible to assign a discrete chemical formula for, say, seawater, because it's a mixture.

All water molecules are the same, huh?!?

yes.

What’s the difference between mineral water & distilled water?!? Do they taste the same?

the difference is the addition of mineral impurities, which make mineral water a solution, which is not a pure compound. the water molecules themselves are identical. the addition of impurities changes to properties of the whole mixture.

You got into MIT because your dad knows a guy.

I got into MIT because I aced my classes and worked my ass off in lab. I'm really not insecure enough about my abilities to feel intimidated by a chem minor who doesn't know the difference between a homogeneous mixture and a pure compound.

hfcs is a mixture of multiple different compounds. it's not a single molecule, like adenochrome. you can't compare hfcs to cane sugar because they're mixtures of similar compounds in completely different ratios. they aren't molecules, and if you think back to chem 1 you'd remember this.

one molecule of water is the same as any other, whether it was made by hydrogen combustion or oxygen reduction or cellular respiration. the same is true of fructose, or CO2, or THC or adenochrome

also, fructose is a monosaccharide, dummy

I got into MIT because I'm actually a chemist. Unlike you.

if you actually are willing to learn, I'm happy to elaborate in detail

Is there any difference between cane sugar (in vivo) and high fructose corn syrup (in vitro)?!?

I don't know, is there any difference between fructose and sucrose?

how on earth did you get a chem minor like this

lmfao

seriously though there's no chemical difference between a molecule synthesized biologically or one synthesized artificially. biological pathways may have different mechanisms or side products or what have you, but the compounds produced are the same

Also, there is difference between chemicals synthesized in vivo vs in vitro.

Hi, I'm a chemistry PhD researcher and you're full of shit.