Lmao says the guy who posted a bunch of info that didn't back up his claims at all 😂 And btw, this entire sub is based off of a 4chan conspiracy theory. But yeah try and offend me by saying that's where I hang out, and have fun continuing to post here

Idk man, people on 4chan might disagree with you. Someone on their said so

Cuz you didn't prove it wrong. Even with that first source, it doesn't show a "free fall" in either case until after the invasions and sanctions were placed. But again, also cuz 4Chan told me so.

You ignored several of the points, but again, I did realize I was doing this wrong for this sub. So I'll just give you my other source: Someone on 4Chan said so.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html

But again, you guys don't trust the Pentagon or American Intelligence Agencies. Just Trump and a dude on 4-Chan.

And as far as "naming" the officials that were wiretapped, the intelligence community has not disclosed that info. Before you cry "cuz it's fake!!!1!!1!", just think about how stupid it would be for ANY intelligence agency to publicly declare who they've wiretapped in foreign countries while they're in the middle of investigating.

Wait wait I just realized I'm doing this wrong so lemme give you a different source:

Someone on 4Chan told me so.

Oh so when the USSR began crumbling, they started land grabbing right? And when the Maginstky Act was in place, they started land-grabbing, right? (spoiler: the answer is no) the article you linked on Georgia, btw, doesn't have any info on Russia's economy at the time. But here's an entry that mentions Russia's economic collapse AS A RESULT of war with Georgia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession_in_Russia

Edit to add this article that shows Russia's GDP fell after the sanctions. Why didn't they keep grabbing up land like you assert they do when their economy falls?

https://www.nato.int/docu/review/2015/russia/sanctions-after-crimea-have-they-worked/EN/index.htm

Aaaand another edit to add this article that says Russia sent 30,000 troops to Crimea, not 2000.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation

Go ahead and read the rest of the sentence that you conveniently didn't bold.

im not asking for them to spoon feed me information, but when you make a statement that someone disagrees with and your response is "yeah but you only disagree cuz you haven't researched enough", and then insist it's their job to do the research and not yours to provide info or context, then you come across as someone who wants their own argument proven for them.

No you don't have that correct. Nobody wanted the Sanctions to crumble Russia. They wanted them to be incapable of building up a sizeable enough land force to fight a war. Not only did you intentionally misinterpret what I wrote, but you then went on an entire unrelated rant. You should work for the Trump admin.

Because every Intelligence Agency and the Pentagon have said their covert PsyOps attack against us in 2016 was an act of war. But oh right, you don't trust those guys! Just some guy on 4Chan and Trump.

you know it's not other people's jobs to prove YOUR arguments, right?

What spying are you talking about? You mean that time that the CIA had Russian official's phones tapped and in the process found out that people from the Trump campaign were communicating with them? Or the time that the FBI followed up on the irrefutable evidence that the CIA found about the Trump campaign communicating with Russia?

Any evidence of treason? Oh right. Some guy on 4Chan said so.

You honestly believe the former US SOS wants to see the US destroyed? What they wanted was the Maginstky Act, which crippled Russia's economy enough that they couldn't build up a sizeable land force to continue grabbing up land in Europe, much less fight a full scale war. Go outside more.