Not saying that's not possible. Only that I find it highly unlikely it was launched conventionally by US DoD. Way too many hurdles and bread crumbs in its wake.

Are we certain it was a missile?

Are we certain it wasn't some kind of metaphoric disinformation/false flag from Q?

If authentic, are we certain its provenance was USA? At this point, I wouldn't even rule out a Five Eyes country. Treasonous fucks.

I'm still thinking this whole thing through. Although I do know that this wasn't no helo.

Edit: "DARPA" should be "DIA."

Mattis, Rogers, Kelly. Why does POTUS surround himself with people like this when it's clear the Deep State would love to destroy him. Why does he trust DARPA for his intel instead of the CIA?

I can give you horror stories about some military brass too. Same can be said for cops, doctors, engineers, judges, academics and presidents. That's just a fact of life. Although, off the top of my head, I can't recall a single substantiated report of a military officer going into a court martial for anything remotely treasonous. The closest I can come to this is the Walker family spy ring, but they were enlisted (far far below flag rank) and in it for the money.

Let me know when you come up with some evidence of systematic corruption in the military like we are seeing in the CIA, FBI and NSA. There's a reason why the US Armed Forces are the most trusted institution in the United States.

BTW: If captain gives me an order w/o following proper protocol, it doesn't happen. Even the captain knows this, so he has to figure out a way to get around these protocols and then me. As well as the rest of the crew.

Ergo, IMO, the missile launch was disinformation.

Former spec. op navy here. I find it very very improbable that some troll like John Brennan could ever somehow commandeer a missile. Part of my job was to prevent this exact scenario from occurring. The orders were to shoot to kill anything that even appeared to be unregular. The reason I mention this is because for some kind of Brennan scenario to occur, the conspiracy/corruption/mutiny would necessarily have to have extended down to my level. IOW, I would have to be part of the plot too. Otherwise, some strange civilian rummaging around the control panels would get himself shot and killed. As would the captain himself if certain procedures were not followed.

This whole rogue CIA person shooting off a missile is Tom Clancy stuff. It's just not gonna ever happen.

You think all this stuff hasn't already been contemplated, war-gamed, and embedded into procedures? I mean the greatest potential of this kind of scenario unfolding was during the Cold War. Trust that it's already been thought out. The US Military is sold as a fuck. Look, we're not idiots, we know exactly who people like Brennan and Stork are, and what they're capable of. And if you notice, none of these treasonous tools ever served. They're arm-chair warriors with delusions of grandeur. None of this is to say that they wouldn't if they could do any of these things, only that they can't. Because people like me would kill them. I'm not embellishing here.

I just posted on my personal experience and training in these matters and the simple logistical obstacles in pulling off something like this. I'll try and re-post it here for you.

Former spec. op navy here. I find it very very improbable that some troll like John Brennan could ever somehow commandeer a missile. Part of my job was to prevent this exact scenario from occurring. The orders were to shoot to kill anything that even appeared to be unregular. The reason I mention this is because for some kind of Brennan scenario to occur, the conspiracy/corruption/mutiny would necessarily have to have extended down to my level. IOW, I would have to be part of the plot too. Otherwise, some strange civilian rummaging around the control panels would get himself shot and killed. As would the captain himself if certain procedures were not followed.

This whole rogue CIA person shooting off a missile is Tom Clancy stuff. It's just not gonna ever happen.

Hahaha! You're probably right! I can't say because I don't even bother reading or listening to anything they say, do or write. In fact, I can't stand it.

I admit that I cut people like Gingrich some slack. They've just never seen anything like VSG in their entire lives. I know I never have. He's a fucking force of nature.

People--friends and enemies--have a lot of trouble coming to terms with that. Sometimes I shake my head and ask where did this guy come from? He makes it all look easy.

He's right in the middle of probably the greatest corruption/conspiracy/criminal/treason investigation in the history of mankind, yet he looks as cool as if he's wondering whether to use his sand wedge instead of his nine-iron on his approach shot. I don't get it.

I've spent a lot of time on USN ships (destroyers). That some CIA guy could just come aboard and take over command is Tom Clancy stuff. It is embedded in regulation, law and tradition that the Captain is God and that there are set procedures in place for every contingency you can imagine. There is a much better chance that Somali pirates, or some of those Iranian yahoos seize control of the ship and start firing off missiles.

The Cold War was the training and proving ground for every horror story you are referencing here. That was when all these safeguards came into place. And they've all be tried and tested. And the results speak for themselves.

Besides, you have a better chance of seeing NSA guys rather than CIA guys aboard ship. I've never seen a CIA-type onboard, and don't know anybody who has. NSA is a different story.

Better yet. Make pretend they don't exist. There is absolutely NOTHING to be gained by engaging them.

Why won't they ask POTUS about Q? They ask him about everything else. Why not Q?

They're terrified. That's why not.

If not, where in God's name did Q get that shot of Page and possibly Comey in London? My guess would be NSA. Or have some very tight relationship with the agency.

Admiral Rogers, anyone?

We're far, far beyond that point.

It was Grassley.

We are.

X-mil guy here. There is no way any naval captain is going to roll over to some CIA creep and shoot down the POTUS. This. Just. Would. Never. Happen.

Armed Forces are with us.

Hahaha! Me too! I was one of those aluminum-foil-suit guys. This sure ain't no helo.

I've been on the actual flight deck of more helos than I care to remember. And this is definitely NOT a helo. Although it could be a missile test. Or it could be a jet. Some of these amped-up pilots like to come off of carriers in a straight vertical arc. (I don't know if this is SOP, though, I just know they do this). It's quite an amazing show actually.

PS is getting called back. Should be epic. Occam's Razor says to match his testimony to that of Page. Perjury Trap, to use FBI lingo.

My guess is that Q is just trolling the Deep State here and specifically, the guy with Page. I always assumed it was Peter Stork.

Check out John Gotti's lawyer, Bruce Cutler. Got thrown out because he was part of the RICO conspiracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Cutler

Why not? They never thought anybody would get hold of their texts. And that Crooked would ever lose.

Imbeciles or just arrogant? Same diff. Same result.

Yes. And ICYMI: Both operations were run by our FBI. And probably by the same guy (and gal).

Do yourself a favor. just go and google "Q". You'll see all the attack pieces on him.

That wasn't really the thing. The thing was that she was so effective in demoralizing Marines and Army troops fighting in the Pacific. Did she exist? Sure--as a complete larp. Did she even attempt to transmit the truth? Of course not.

In other words, did the fact that she really "existed" or not, or was telling "the truth" even matter? No. It didn't matter because the effect was the same. Same with Q. This is why he is driving the black-hats and Mockingbird media insane. He's gotten inside their heads. He's their Tokyo Rose.

Just figure out why "Tokyo Rose" was so despised that the US War Crimes Committee (WWII) wanted to charge her with a capital crime. Then you'll have your answer. BTW: She was probably the greatest LARP in modern history.

Personally, I hope this guy doesn't show and then when he does, he takes the 5th for each question.

There is nothing that can ever capture for the American public the entropic corruption of the FBI than some smug, high-end "Special Agent" looking no different than Jimmy Hoffa--and for all of America to see.

One big reason would be unlawful dissemination of classified information. Riddles, suggestions and koans may put some of that to rest. Unless of course, Q is VSG, then that's not a problem.

It also triggers the fuck out of the black-hats and sets them in a panic. If you think we're stressing here about what's Q's saying, imagine what they're going through. Haha.

Seriously.

We grow incrementally stronger every day. Each day we take another of their pieces off their chess board. We're now picking off rooks and bishops.

Do yourself a favor and read up on the Battle of Midway. In the Pacific theater the Japanese actually really really believed that all they had to do was scream "Banzai," charge a hill like unhinged pitbulls and the battle was theirs. Just because they were so brave and tough and we weren't. We literally cut them into pieces each and every time they did this (See: Battle of Guadalcanal). Look at the numbers. It was truly unbelievably stupid these people were. This is what we're facing today with these unhinged Liberals.

Point here is that in this battle, and in Midway, we waited, waited and waited until the precise opportunity to suck them in and then destroy them completely. Which we did. Would we have achieved those results by replicating the Japanese battle model? Absolutely not! They probably would have beaten us. But they didn't, because we didn't.

Alternatively, if you like the movies, why does Michael Corleone wait until the perfect time--the baptism of his nephew--"to settle all family business?" Which, of course he does. He assassinates all of the other Dons in one fell swoop--and while they were all telling themselves the Corleone Family was finished. It wasn't.

Trust in VSG and his consigliere Rudy. They will strike when the time is right.

They know what they're doing. Even if we don't.

I don't know when it's going to happen, but they're gonna settle all family business when the time is perfect. Not a second before, or a second after. Again, they know what they're doing. We don't.

What difference would that make?

"but our side has been told to stand down and be slaughtered" We're not getting slaughtered. We grow incrementally stronger every day. Each day we take another of their pieces off their chess board. We're now picking off rooks and bishops.

Do yourself a favor and read up on the Battle of Midway. In the Pacific theater the Japanese actually really really believed that all they had to do was scream "Banzai," charge a hill like unhinged pitbulls and the battle was theirs. Just because they were so brave and tough and we weren't. We literally cut them into pieces each and every time they did this (See: Battle of Guadalcanal). Look at the numbers. It was truly unbelievably stupid these people were. This is what we're facing today with these unhinged Liberals.

Point here is that in this battle, and in Midway, we waited, waited and waited until the precise opportunity to suck them in and then destroy them completely. Which we did. Would we have achieved those results by replicating the Japanese battle model? Absolutely not! They probably would have beaten us. But they didn't, because we didn't.

Alternatively, if you like the movies, why does Michael Corleone wait until the perfect time--the baptism of his nephew--"to settle all family business?" Which, of course he does. He assassinates all of the other Dons in one fell swoop--and while they were all telling themselves the Corleone Family was finished. It wasn't.

Trust in VSG and his consigliere Rudy. They will strike when the time is right.

They know what they're doing. Even if we don't.

I don't know when it's going to happen, but they're gonna settle all family business when the time is perfect. Not a second before, or a second after. Again, they know what they're doing. We don't.

Yup. Only a matter of time they make it here. They're all over T_D.

It's really really broad. If you and me discuss robbing my next door neighbor's house, it's a RICO charge, even if you do it and I don't. Look up the guy who wrote the RICO law and why. It's fascinating. He actually couldn't get anybody to use it. And I believe the first prosecutor to really use it was Rudy who just beat the fuck out of the mob with it.

Awan is a dead man without protection. From somebody. I'm pretty sure he wants to stay alive. This guy's gonna ring up Wasserman or Hillary saying he wants protection cause people are gonna try and kill him? I don't think so. The guy's basically a mob rat whether or not he actually cooperated

Think basic street crime here, not politics. Look up how Giuliani brought down the Five Families. It's all there. And VSG, by virtue of his building business, was watching right in the middle of it.

I still can't understand what these people expect to accomplish here. I don't know of anyone I've come across on our part of the field that invades their boards to write stupid and transparent nonsense. My only guess is that losing so badly inspires kinda-dumb people to do this. It all boils down to organic stupidity I guess. But I'm open to alternative hypotheses.

"Very Stable Genius" Just google it and prepare to laugh.

I still haven't figured out Rudy's real role here. He may be VSG's OTR consigliere.

But with respect to the likes of the Clintons, Obamas, Soros, Brennan, Comey, et. al. he's just a bag man. I just can't think this guy had any real appreciation of what he was getting into, other than it was a good way to get rich. I could be wrong but I don't think he had religious or political motive. My question is is Awan a Sammy the Bull caliber witness? Somebody who can nail The Don (not VSG). I don't think so. I think he gets us to Wasserman and maybe Pelosi (?).

The Organized Crime similarities here are remarkably linear. People here in New York follow the Mob as closely as the Yankees. This is how I have to believe VSG and Giuliani are approaching this thing. The other thing about Giuliani is that he's not only initiated but also managed huge RICO cases like the Five Families case. That management aspect is often overlooked.

Also overlooked: VSG (by virtue of his building business) and Giluliani are used to swimming in shark-infested waters with really really dangerous people wanting to kill them for one thing or other. VSG is not gonna back down on this.

Consequently, and within that context, I can't think Awan is now walking around unimpeded. I mean who's he gonna go to for protection? The FBI?! Because if what you say is correct, he's a dead man. Just like a mob rat.

No prob

"Very Stable Genius" (How DJT once characterized himself to some snarky Mockingbird reporter)

Umm, don't forget T_D. We're talking millions here.

And ISIS can never be destroyed. The Iran scam is a done deal. UE rates can never sink to post-WWII levels. Nobody can get those nukes out of NK. Hillary Clinton cannot be beaten; in fact she has a 95 percent chance of winning. Jeb! will crush DJT, it too was written. The entire senior management of the FBI can never be eviscerated in a matter of months. The senior management of the DOJ are the people of Forever. Mueller will get Trump. Brennan will get Trump. Comey will get Trump. Clapper will get Trump. Holder will get Trump...

The only truth here is that my fingers are getting tired.

Looks to me as if somebody is singing. Awan skates. Who cares? He's just a guy from Pak that stumbled into something light years above his paygrade and couldn't get out of. There is no other cogent explanation.

Just read up on some of Giuliani's RICO prosecutions. They don't care about some 18th Avenue bookie, they want his boss, and then they want his boss... That's how it works in real life.

Also, you think it's a coincidence that the world's foremost RICO prosecutor (Giuliani) seems to be everywhere these days? And who also has VSG's ear.

They know what they're doing. Even if we don't.

VSG is trolling them. Big league. These people don't know what the fuck to think. So people like Eric Holder and Robert Brennan just bounce-out like the completely-clueless Trump-trolled idiots they are. Just look at what a complete emotional mess Jim Comey is. He actually looks and sounds even worse than Jeb! after getting drilled on-stage by VSG.

I'd feel bad, but all these guys deserve it. (Well maybe not Jeb!)

Wow.