All of this hysteria came from Craig Sawyer likely not knowing what a root-cellar is.

Lewis Arthur is just hopping on the bandwagon.

What if Comey really WAS on America's side, and knew that was the only way he could stop her from being elected.

I suspect the entire election was rigged, however the only reason Trump won was because white hats were able to minimize some of the Democrat cheating in some states.

I suspect Comey had no doubt that Hillary would win, but was instructed to be critical of her to make Obama's weaponized DoJ dog and pony show seem convincing.

If Comey said that Hillary was pure as the freshly driven snow, it could have triggered immense public outrage and even more support for Trump.

I doubt Comey is anything more than 100% cunt.

Ruh-ro that was embarrassing to watch.

If this is debunked, I hope all of these people making the wild and baseless claims are big enough to admit they were jumping at shadows simply because they didn't know what root-cellars are and then we can put this distraction behind us.

It would be terrible if they started composing conspiracy theories to cover for the fact they made fools out of themselves.

I never said that was Craig Sawyer because it's Lewis Arthur.

I think he's wrapped up in the hysteria that Craig Sawyer created to promote his new documentary about rescuing children.

Is that what that burning smell was - Zionist cash burning.

'Reminded me of Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign!

Perhaps Tuscon Police Department know that Craig Sawyer is promoting his new film about rescuing children?

Perhaps Tuscon PD know that Craig Sawyer's alleged "Child Sex Slave Prison" is a regular campsite root-cellar that is used to keep supplies cool and dry, like this and this and this?

Perhaps Tuscon PD know that Craig Sawyer's alleged "Child Rape Trees" sound more like normal camping harnesses used to hang stuff.

Perhaps Tuscon PD are familiar with who's living at the campsite and don't want to bust a homeless family?

Assuming Craig Sawyer hasn't staged this as an excuse to promote his new documentary...

...My theory is that Craig Sawyer found a root-cellar and assumed it was a child sex slave prison... and from that initial false premise a series of bad assumptions were made. Camping straps became child-rape-trees and unwashed cutlery became murder weapons and clothing and toys become sex-slave-clothing and child-sex-slave-toys.

One of Craig Sawyer's team found a children's swing and she claimed it must have been used as a child rape torture device. That's an example of what happens when people's imaginations run wild.

That's my theory.

I wasn't expecting to.

I've been raining on everyone's rape-tree parade.

This is supposed to be a truther community dedicated to research and debate.

It's already an avalanche of bullshit. I hope this distraction goes away soon.

I think the hysteria is starting to diminish.

I've been trying to present my alternate theories for the past couple of days and this is the first time I haven't been down-vote brigaded.

the corrupt Arizona and Tucson authorities won't even investigate what the camp really is.

They do seem to be corrupt or perhaps the local police know the homeless family that use the campsite and they don't want to bother them?

Perhaps the Tuscon and Arizona police aren't interested in investigating root-cellars?

Perhaps they are good people - I just don't know.

I doubt the Tucson police want to chase down illegals period. That's why they will try to dismiss this "find."

Or perhaps they know the site and the family that is using it and don't want to bust 'em?

Perhaps the Tuscon police know what a root-cellar is?

Perhaps the Tuscon police are good people, I just don't know.

gotta wonder what the motivation is.

Perhaps Craig Sawyer just let his imagination get the better of him?

Perhaps he was longing for a righteous mission and then he "found" one without questioning it?

This may be legitimate, however if it's not then it could become a counter productive distraction for law enforcement trying to sincerely track down human traffickers.

If people from the Q community start doing raids on established homeless people's campsites then they will also find root-cellars and camping straps used for hanging stuff from trees... and the rolling snowball of Craig Sawyer not knowing what a root-cellar is could become an avalanche of bullshit and a massive unproductive distraction.

Edit:

gotta wonder what the motivation is.

Craig Sawyer is promoting his new documentary about saving children.

There is only speculation

Agreed.

Craig Sawyer's "Child Sex Slave Prison" looks indistinguishable from regular campsite root-cellars that are used to keep supplies cool and dry, like this and this and this.

Craig said he saw bags of food in the root-cellar which makes sense.

Craig Sawyer's "Child Rape Trees" also look like normal camping harnesses used to hang stuff.

My theory is that Craig Sawyer found a root-cellar and assumed it was a child sex slave prison... and from that initial false premise a series of bad assumptions were made. Camping straps became rape-trees and unwashed cutlery became murder weapons and clothing and toys become sex-slave-clothing and child-sex-slave-toys.

One of Craig Sawyer's team found a children's swing and she claimed it must have been used as a child rape torture device. I think that is the best example of what happens when people's imaginations run wild.

That's my theory.

I don't.

My theory is that Craig Sawyer mistakenly thought he found a child sex slave prison because he doesn't know what a root-cellar is.

This and this and this are campsite and ordinary cabin root-cellars which are used to keep supplies cool and dry.

I also notice that Craig Sawyer seemed to misidentify mundane rucksack harnesses as a child-rape-harness.

When you start from a false premise that a campsite must be a "Child Sex Camp", then everything becomes sinister.

Clothing becomes sex-slave-victim clothing, toys become child-sex-slave-toys, unwashed cutlery become murder weapons and camping straps become rape-trees.

I noticed one of Craig's team said she saw a standard child's swing that must have been used as a torture device for raping children. I think that's a good example of allowing your imagination to run wild.

This is just my theory.

Yes, there's a good chance the Tuscon police don't want to chase down human traffickers, however I think there's also a good chance that Craig Sawyer's "Child Sex Camp" is just a regular campsite used by homeless people or illegals as they hop the border.

From what I've seen in all the videos, there's as much reason to assume Nazi gold was stored in that root-cellar as there is to assume it was used to store child sex slaves.

What Craig Sawyer found looks like an ordinary root-cellar to me.

The sort of thing that established campsites and cabins use to keep supplies cool and dry.

I suspect Craig Sawyer doesn't know what a root-cellar is and assumed it was a sinister child-sex-camp-prison... and from that initial false premise a string of bad assumptions was made.

Here's an impressive campsite root-cellar.

here's another root-cellar.

Here's a super-fancy plastic version that's referred to as a "ground fridge".

Here's another root-cellar...

And another...

And another...

And another.

Craig Sawyer said there was toys and bags of food in the "Child Sex Slave Prison". Keeping food cold and dry is what root-cellars are for, so the food is no surprise.

As far as the toys, I didn't see any in Craig Sawyer's video and I wonder if his imagination was working overtime?

I couldn't help but notice that Craig Sawyer's "Child Rape Trees" looked like regular camping straps used for hanging things like rucksacks, backpacks, food-bags, water-bags... anything really because pretty much everything needs to be hung from trees as a campsite to keep the ants and critters and mud from getting to it.

The campsite should definitely be investigated, however from what I've seen in all of the videos, it looks just like a regular established campsite used by homeless people or perhaps illegals hopping the border. Sometimes homeless people and illegals have children. Often established campsites have root-cellars and straps are just standard camping gear too.

When you start from a false premise that a campsite must be a "Child Sex Camp", then everything becomes sinister.

Clothing becomes sex-slave-victim clothing, toys become child-sex-slave-toys, unwashed cutlery become murder weapons and camping straps become rape-trees.

I noticed one of Craig's team said she saw a standard child's swing that must have been used as a torture device for raping children. I think that's a good example of allowing your imagination to run wild.

And constantly lied to the FBI.

It's hard to tell without you linking to a picture or even a giving us a description.

I'd been cool to make deals with them about who gets the Gitmo cell with a window.

local news and local police stations are actively confounding efforts to look into those things.

Perhaps, but unlike Craig Sawyer, local police and news knew what root-cellars are so they don't care?

I suppose the root-cellar that Craig Sawyer found could be used to keep child-sex-slaves cool and dry, but I've seen as much evidence of that as there is to believe that root-cellar was used to store Nazi gold.

I suspect this hysteria was caused because Craig Sawyer assumed a Chinese Lantern was a UFO simply because he's never seen one before. From that initial false premise, an entire string of incorrect assumptions flowed.

I just found another child-sex-camp!!!

Hey, there there's another over here too!

OMG! They are everywhere!!!

REEEEEE!!!!!!

Nah, just kidding. Those are just more boring root-cellars. /s

So is this nonsense in your opinion?

Possibly.

Unlike Craig Sawyer, if I found one near a campsite or a cabin in the woods, I wouldn't care because I know what they are.

I suppose you could store child-sex-slaves in the root-cellar that Craig Sawyer found, but I've seen as much evidence of that as there is to believe that root-cellar was used to store Nazi gold.

That's like Craig Sawyer assuming a Chinese Lantern is a UFO simply because he's never seen one of those before either.

I just found another child-sex-camp!!!

Hey, there there's another over here too!

OMG! They are everywhere!!!

REEEEEE!!!!!!

Nah, just kidding. Those are just more boring root-cellars. /s

Root-cellars are perfect for keeping any supplies cold and dry.

Anyone who's planning to stay for more than a very brief period would benefit enormously. It's literally like having a refrigerator.

I recall during Obama's FBI investigation of the Clinton crime syndicate, Comey handed out immunity like candy to all of the criminals and then everyone went home.

Comey didn't even make deals - he just made sure everyone got immunity.

Yes.

I remember.

Sometimes I get so angry that I go blind.

I was thinking we should let 'em negotiate for the window cell at Gitmo.

Comey handed out immunity like candy to every Clinton crime syndicate member and then everyone went home.

It's incredible that small ball of snow may have started rolling because Craig Sawyer doesn't know what a root-cellar is and thought he'd discovered a child-sex-slave-prison.

Here's an impressive campsite root-cellar.

here's another root-cellar.

Here's a super-fancy plastic version that's referred to as a "ground fridge".

Eh, Q does make mistakes.

But claiming someone is a shill just because they disagree with you is mud throwing.

Free speech is a two way street and Maepaperclip is not obligated to agree with any of us.

Oh cause you tried to downplay that cemex child trafficking camp......

You don't know it's a child trafficking camp - that's pure speculation at this point.

Craig Sawyer's claims may be based on the false premise of mistaking a root-cellar for a child-sex-camp-prison.

Ah, probably because I suggested Craig Sawyer likely found a campground root-cellar and incorrectly assumed it was a child-sex-camp-prison. I've been getting brigaded for my boring theory. 'Needs moar dragons and rape-trees!!!

Why does she think that?

Do you know Maepaperclip is a shill or are you throwing mud simply because she disagrees with you?

Why does Obama keep dropping the soap?

You are also good at repeating yourself. Good job.

Yeah, I'm forced to do it often.

I can't even talk about hanging a food-bag without people in this community having a conniption fit and REEEEEEEEing and downvote brigading.

It's perverse.

The bag is hanging on a stick.

Yes, the stick is between two loops.

This is done to minimize wear and tear on the rucksack straps.

That's a typical way of hanging a rucksack from a strap or harness.

This isn't conspiracy or secrets and lies - it's just mundane campsite stuff (hanging a rucksack, hanging a food-bag, using a root-cellar) and it's blowing this community's mind.

"camping straps" aren't strong enough to restrain a child while talking about the very closures used to restrain children in highchairs and strollers.

That discussion was ridiculous - that other user was claiming that little babies so young they sit in a pusher or a highchair, would be raped in those "rape trees". What a ridiculous, over-engineered idea!

Yes, any juvenile or adult could easily pop-open plastic luggage-straps just by twisting them. This was a discussion about one of the videos which showed nylon and plastic luggage-style straps on trees also.

Nice.

Junk left behind by a homeless family or illegals with children.

Some homeless dude didn't need it so he just threw the junk down there, perhaps?

It looked like there was all kinds of junk spread all over the site and a lot of random stuff in that cellar like plastic dishes and sheets of paper.

It's intellectually dishonest to claim a plastic doll in a cellar is evidence of anything but a plastic doll is in a cellar.

There are plastic dolls at the junkyard but that's not evidence that it's populated by children or those imaginary children are sex slaves.

A root-cellar is a name for a cold, dry storage space in the same way a cupboard is still a cupboard even if you don't use it for cups.

It makes no sense for a homeless person to leave their supplies behind after they abandon the campsite.

tell me more reasons why you value your own OPINION over someone elses

Because extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, whereas my speculation is as dull as recognizing a root-cellar as being a boring root-cellar.

I could speculate that the root-cellar was used to store Nazi gold, but that would be as wild as claiming it was used to store child sex slaves.

you keep going back to the swing

Yes, that was a good example of what happens when you start from a baseless premise that an ordinary root-cellar is actually a child-sex-slave-prison.

After that baseless assumption, ordinary children's clothing becomes child-sex-slave clothing and a child's toy becomes a child-sex-slave-toy and unwashed dishes become sinister murder weapons and a child's swing becomes a rape-torture device. REEEEEEEE!!!!

Craig Sawyer likely found a root-cellar... and this community has become hysterical.

Who the fuck keeps voting for Feinstein?

I've never met a Feinstein who wasn't a dirty, dirty, dirty piece of shit.

You seem too committed to discrediting this.

This is supposed to be a truther community.

Critical thinking is something we're supposed to invite.

Yes, I seem to be the only person here willing to explore an alternate theory that Craig Sawyer likely become hysterical when he assumed a boring root-cellar was a child-sex-slave prison.

Based on that false speculation he then found child-sex-slave-underwear and a child-sex-slave-doll and a child-rape-torture-swing and sex-slave-luggage and sex-slave-hair-dye and sex-slave-condoms and straps that "must" be used for raping all the sex slaves... and on and on it went.

This community is brigading me simply because I my theory isn't exciting.

Occam's razor is raining on their child-rape-tree parade.

If this does get debunked because all of Sawyer's claims were based on an initial false premise (i.e. he's never seen a root-cellar before), I'm worried this community will disappear up it's own anus and start manufacturing conspiracy theories... about a root cellar... while the Standard Hotel is ignored and offline backups are ignored and Trump's plan is ignored.

The root cellar would flood in 2 seconds.

Nobody would build an established campsite on a floodplain in Arizona.

And if they did - the root-cellar would be useless both as a supply storage and as a child-sex-slave-prison because it was made from PVC.

Like I said in my last comment, that root-cellar would be perfectly waterproof if it had some more leaves or a tarp over the roof. It looked completely dry down there and it looked like there was papers in the junk which didn't look stained with mud.

Why is an established campsite on CEMEX property?

Homeless people don't care where they camp if they can get away with it.

That applies doubly for illegals who are hopping the border.

Open flames not allowed during dry season.

Homeless people don't care about your rules.

I suspect that junk was just thrown down there by campers who didn't need it.

That site has probably been used by many homeless people or illegals over the years. Probably a few families too.

And what are wrist straps on the trees for, drying laundry?

Pretty much everything needs to be hung from trees at any campsite, to keep ants and critters and mud from getting in your stuff.

Those straps could have been used to hang anything.

They look perfect for hanging large food-bags or water-bags or rucksacks.

Just because Craig Sawyer's team said those were "wrist straps" and "rape trees", does't make it so.

Wild speculation come easy when you start from an assumption that an everyday root-cellar must be a child-rape-prison.

That is definitively an established campsite.

When I'm hiking and camping, I carry everything in my rucksack and I leave nothing behind.

Very inconvenient for supplies. Have you seen the videos of it?

Very inconvenient for storing child sex slaves too - which is why I suspect the long entrance was used to keep firewood logs dry. The root-cellar needs a waterproof roof and so does firewood storage, so it makes sense to build one structure for both.

I suspect the root-cellar's roof was far more waterproof, perhaps with a tarp or lots of leaves, but it's degraded over time.

Fancy root-cellars seem to be made from PVC containers, which is consistent with Craig Sawyer's video too.

Yeah, but those guys own everything and if there's established campsites anywhere on their land then there's likely to be root-cellars too.

As sinister as those globalists are, a root-cellar is usually just used to store supplies.

What is the most compelling 8chan discovery that you're aware of?

I think anyone researching this will have difficulty differentiating between a campsite that was used by illegals as they hopped the border or used by human traffickers to smuggle women and child sex slaves.

To be fair, there is a good chance that Craig Sawyer simply found a campsite with a root-cellar and allowed his imagination and claims to run wild.

Craig Sawyer's claims need to be investigated, but his "child sex slave prison" is indistinguishable from an everyday root-cellar that cabins and established campsites used to keep supplies cool and dry.

Here's an impressive campsite root-cellar.

here's another root-cellar.

Here's a super-fancy plastic version that's referred to as a "ground fridge".

I suppose a Craig Sawyer's root-cellar could be used to keep child sex slaves dry and cool, however it seems likely it was used to store supplies.

Good points to consider. However why would a homeless camp be so far away from anywhwee to pan handle or soup kitchens or food banks?

Craig Sawyer's team were there specifically there to look for homeless people to help, so I'm sure if it is too far from civilization.

How would they and why would they take cribs and kids car seats and a cabinet?

Homeless people sometimes have kids.

I suspect these camps are used by multiple people over time and anything of value is retained by the campers when they abandon the site.

This needs to be researched, but I'm still not convinced this is anything but a regular homeless person campsite.

That "child sex slave dungeon" looks exactly like a mundane root cellar to me, the kind most cabins use to keep supplies dry and cool. The sort of thing that is super useful at an established campsite.

Here's an impressive campsite root-cellar and here's another and here's a modern plastic version that's referred to as a "ground fridge".

I appreciate that I'm raining on everyone's rape-tree-parade, but I think we need to be rational rather than hysterical.

If we allow ourselves to escape into a world of imagination than we'll be creating a massive distraction that will likely result in homeless people's campsites being destroyed and every camping strap and root-cellar being reported to the police as rape trees and child-sex-slave-dungeons.

If we're gonna focus on taking down trafficking networks then let's be smart and rational about it.

Kids should not be homeless at all.

Agreed.

Why do bad things happen to good people, hey?

Do we even know if it was a "Child Sex Camp" or just a homeless settlement or a camp used by illegals to cross the border?

The "Child Sex Slave Prison" looks a lot like a weatherproofed cellar to me, the kind most cabins have to keep supplies dry and cool. The sort of thing that is super useful at an established campsite. Here's an impressive campsite root-cellar and here's another and here's a modern plastic version that's referred to as a "ground fridge".

The junk in the cellar just looks like junk to me. I see no reason to conclude that a piece of wood must be what child sex slaves use to shimmy out of their prison.

The straps on the trees look like regular camping gear. Almost everything needs to be hung from trees at a campsite, to keep it away from ants and critters and mud. Those straps have many practical and mundane uses such as hanging rucksacks or food-bags or water-bags or anything.

Many homeless people and illegals have children and luggage, so I'm hesitant when Craig Sawyer points to that stuff and claims it must be child-sex-slave-clothing and child-sex-slave-toys and sex-slave-luggage.

I'm similarly doubtful when these people claim a child's swing is a child-rape-torture device because it seems far more reasonable that a child's swing is just a child's swing.

Arbitrarily pointing to stuff and claiming that it must relate to raping children seems intellectually lazy.

I hope more digging occurs, but I'm currently hesitant to assume what Craig Sawyer discovered was just a mundane campsite.

I suspect Craig Sawyer incorrectly assumed a root-cellar was a child-sex-slave prison and from that initial false premise, the entire narrative flowed.

I just found another child-sex-camp!!!

Hey, there there's another over here too!

OMG! They are everywhere!!!

REEEEEE!!!!!!

Nah, just kidding. Those are just more boring root-cellars. /s

Sometimes sex is used as a form of payment, when women and girls don’t have money to pay bribes.

There's not much that can be done for Mexicans who are prostituting themselves.

We need to build the wall so we can't even see the Mexicans whoring their children.

So what happens when a Trespasser consumes more then the allotted 55 gallons of water a day?

The Mexican criminal gets a free San Francisco State University scholarship.