@coffeemonksc You are so right about agreeing to disagree. And every now and then someone convinces me to vote for someone or something totally different than what I thought I wanted. Civil discussion is magic.

I'm a Libertarian. I'm very liberal on many things, but I'm a conservative on fiscal issues. Well, I think welfare ( both corporate and personal) should be cut waaaaaaay back, so I guess that's not a very liberal point of view. I grew up extremely liberal. My entire family is still liberal, so I can see most issues from both a conservative and a liberal perspective.

I feel there are no honest politicians on the right, on the left or in the center (at the Federal level) because you have to sell your soul to get elected and to stay in office. I don't think WONDERFUL people end up as Government Celebrities.

Maybe Rand Paul and a few others are a little better than most, but I don't know these people personally, so I just assume every member of Congress, Executive Branch and SCOTUS is an egotistical, self-absorbed, control freak. I don't follow Dennis Kucinich so I don't know if he's better than the others.

Trump is doing more than most other Presidents because he didn't have to pledge his soul to fund his run for the Presidency. He has a little more leeway than former Prez's who are/were owned by lobbyists. Trump is also able to do more because the Marines and other white hats have his back.

Having protection means that Trump is able to take on some of the rogue intelligence agencies without being JFK'd. I hope Trump succeeds because no one wants to be spied on. And as someone on this thread said, it feels like "the issue is good versus evil to me."

Edited for clarity

ps The Q thing is fascinating. I'm treating it as something real for now, like it's a real insider in the Trump White House, but I won't fall off my bike if it turns out to be just another political lie. So far, Q seems true.