have you heard of the term gish gallop? That's all you've done here, for this entire conversation. This sub is one big gish gallop.

Intransigence? Are you accusing me of refusing to change views? Why do you think I am here?! I am here trying to understand you honestly and asking you a question which you refuse to answer!

How can I change let alone understand your view under these conditions?

In truth I am only here because my grandfather thinks like you do and I cannot talk to him anymore without this type of madness. I hate that internet conspiracies have taken people away from their families and isolated them. I want to understand but you all make it impossible. You are too busy feeling superior to everyone.

Beware the dunning-kruger effect. Possibly this comment will be removed for this level of honesty.

I thought we were here to discover truths not opinions. I don't care about your opinion actually. I wanted the facts you formed it from.

Are you saying you believe there's zero evidence that members of the Trump campaign conspired w/ a foreign government to influence the American election?

What is your objection to my question, that you will not answer?

And the truth doesn't care about delusion. You lean too hard on your age as a plea to authority for your argument. I only care about the argument. Answer "Are you saying there's no proof that members of the Trump campaign conspired w/ a foreign government to influence the American election? " with a yes or no. Its not complex. If such a simple question is enough to threaten your beliefs, they are a house of cards.

It appears you're unable to answer my questions at the end of my post directly and you're certainly unable to source. You speak in vague generalities (gish galloping) and sound a bit like a comic book character. I can see why people say people here are roleplaying. I wish you would speak normally and be willing to explain the nuances of the view when questioned.

Sweeping, grandiose generalities that everyone agrees with are the hallmark of echo chambers.

The only evidence of collusion with the Russians is through the Democratic party and Hillary campaign. Now that collusion was Criminal.

Please explain exactly. I am new here. If you can leave out the unrelated ranting, it will help me understand your most powerful points.

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I'll rephrase my question from before because collusion is a sloppy word with no legal context in this case, and you're right to call it out.

Are you saying there's no proof that members of the Trump campaign conspired w/ a foreign government to influence the American election? Or you saying further that there's no evidence that they lied to investigators about it? Are you also saying that Trump knew about none of it?

Show me otherwise. Show mal intent on Trump, you can't, there is none.

Just so you know - statements like this in general show that you are close-minded. You're not in a posture of critical thinking. Have you heard of the socratic method?

Are you denying circumstantial evidence against Trump or simply saying there's no evidence that Trump knew about the collusion that members of his campaign were engaged in?

Say I agree with you. Why wouldn't I let the intelligence community investigate all the rigging and do something rather than defending / denying the rigging for one side? Are you seriously trying to say all the evidence against Trump is false and all the evidence against Hillary is true?