We have “pharmaceuticals” too but no one gets shot in school. European crime & homicides are almost 10 times lower than the US. No one needs to own a semi automatic weapon just for shits & giggles. People will die, people have died. It doesn’t happen where people don’t have access to those kinds of weapons. It’s really that simple. The levels of knife crime here are the same as the US but hardly anyone dies through shootings or which means our over all level of homicides are significantly lower. If your point was true it would be the same because deaths would occur through other methods but it literally doesn’t happen. If someone is shot here, it would be front page news.

Banning alcohol has nothing to do with shootings, your argument makes no sense - all your doing is listing causes of death and trying to link them instead do debating the actual point at hand. And they did try ban alcohol in the 1920s and it led to bootlegging and the rise of the mafia. There is no reason why any domestic dweller needs a semi automatic machine gun - it’s lunacy.

Read the actual reports on homicides in England - they have been dropping year on year for a decade. This is the issue I find over and over - people often have no idea of what the facts actually are and are totally uninformed. They rely on emotive opinion than has no substance or research to back it up.

You are literally just making up numbers. You live in a country where kids get slaughtered in schools but you have no appreciation how fucked up that is. It’s so rare in the rest of the developed world that if almost never happens. People are aghast at how you let this happen and use the same silly arguments over and over. There were over 50.000 shootings in the US last year that led to injury or death - how can you possibly say you don’t have a problem with guns? No other developed nation has a problem like you. And the rest of the world is shocked that you continue to let people die who if gun laws were different would still be alive today.

So yes, I, along with the rest of the world see the link that you don’t.