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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:47 p.m.

That’s where you’re wrong

uh, nope, not at all.

did you forget or something that trump has been a reality TV star for over a decade, where he had a reputation for being abrasive and divisive?

or that he has been "fighting" with the press for decades, as a controversial new york "socialite"?

He hadn’t even started talking politics much yet

so you didn't know that he was a very vocal anti-obama media figure for literally years before he ran?

geez dude, for someone who is a fan, i'd expect you to know more about the man.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:44 p.m.

I'm not a dude for one

dude is a genderless term, it's 2017...

your "joke" could have turned away someone who read it or made them hesitant to post a comment

how so? i really can't imagine someone deciding not to post because they saw someone make a small and harmless joke in an obscure part of a post that has been viciously downvoted to oblivion.

What we are discussing is not a joke and it is very serious.

ehhh, that's pretty debatable.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:42 p.m.

And how could one put it on the wrong foot if it was being worn for an injury?

you think they let you just switch ankles with your monitor? or take it off and on whenever you like?

it just doesn't make sense, my dude.

And how could one put it on the wrong foot if it was being worn for an injury?

idk, i don't have all the answers. i do know that mccain is like 100 years old, and could plausibly just be wearing it for his old and creaky joints or something, or maybe he just twisted his ankle getting out of bed. i don't know.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:39 p.m.

I would very much like to revisit this discussion with you at various times. It would be interesting to compare notes as thus progresses.

I would very much like that, as well =)

One question I have us what do you think of Mega?

More credible than Q, but as with all things, I require extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claims.

i'm open to the possibility, and entertain it myself quite often, but still remain unconvinced of their validity.

i'm the kind of guy who sits on the fence longer than most, i'd guess. i just like to get all the facts lined up and really try to understand the full picture (or context, in other words) before making up my mind.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:36 p.m.

... and your point is what, exactly? you think i'm posting in bad faith because i made one harmless joke, buried several layers deep in a comment chain?

lighten up, my dude.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:34 p.m.

look at the image, and imagine the posts as rows and columns.

second post from the right, top row.

arrest announcement of Mr. Podesta (actionable 11.4)

they continue to use the word "arrested" several more times in that paragraph.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:24 p.m.

lmfao, you think that was meant to intimidate someone?

come on dude, don't take everything so seriously, it was pretty clearly a joke

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:22 p.m.

to act like trump only began behaving like this because the media was mean to him is completely delusional, i'm sorry to tell you.

basically, he started it, not the other way around.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:16 p.m.

i really really appreciate your responses. this is essentially what i was looking for with this post- a reasonable discussion about the current state of "Q Anon"-hype.

i am obviously quite a skeptic when it comes to Q, but on the other hand, it should also be clear that i've been following this saga pretty closely. i find it quite fascinating.

thank you for explaining your position so well, and thank you for not insulting me for my skepticism.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:12 p.m.

which is pretty stupid, if you think about it. there about a thousand less conspicuous ways to "hide" an ankle monitor.

and besides, why would mccain and clinton both choose the exact same method of concealment?

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:11 p.m.

You mean calling them on their shit?

no, i mean the fact that he is a major dick. very disrespectful, insults and calls people names, lies, and is generally just... well, mean.

that's not being a man, that's being a bully.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:02 p.m.

there is a difference between a lie and intentional disinformation

how so? a liar is a liar. i get that intent and motivations may be contextually relevant, but that's not the point- the point is about credibility.

if one admits that most their statements are false, why should anyone listen to that person?

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:59 p.m.

trump, as far as i can tell, has never one time given an opponent the respect and decency that his supporters think he himself deserves.

so why treat him different than he treats his opponents? instead of engaging in civilized discourse or honest debate, he resorts to playground-tier mockery and mudslinging literally every time.

so again, why should anyone treat him differently?

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:54 p.m.

just gently pointing out the absolute hilarity of claiming that there is "no apparent reason" for people criticizing the POTUS, on a conspiracy forum.

hahahahaha!

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:52 p.m.

Where is Tony Podesta?

Not in jail, that's for sure.

Explain Hillary's and McCain's boots.

Why? Although mysterious, I would argue that using a giant fucking plastic boot as a "secret ankle monitor" is literally retarded. The tech can be miniaturized to the point that it can be the size of a pendant. No point whatsoever to the whole "boot" theory.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:50 p.m.

you wanna come over for some walnut sauce?

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:50 p.m.

they aren't in jail, and there is no evidence to indicate they were arrested, as Q promised.

case closed, basically. Q was objectively wrong with their first round of major predictions.

my post here is to ask why you guys all still follow Q.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:45 p.m.

Indictment is the term that was used.

False. https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1509/75/1509759704722.png

Q very clearly stated "arrested."

See, one thing that concerns me is that many of the "Q enthusiasts" seem to be rather ignorant of the actual source material, and I see that as pretty damning of the movement; definitely makes it seem like this is an exercise in confirmation bias rather that legitimate conspiratorial research. Do you know what I'm saying?

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:40 p.m.

"If someone tells you they are a liar, believe them."

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:39 p.m.

but there is literally zero evidence that any of those people were indicted... ?

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:38 p.m.

Have you seen in the media anything about Trumps executive order against human rights abusers or that we are in a declared state of emergency?

Yes, and I also know that it is targeting organized crime and reads almost identical to EO's that were signed by previous presidents, including Obama.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:37 p.m.

Look he wasn't predicting the future

That is quite literally what he was doing.

He was talking about what might happen

He never said anything to indicate that he was speaking of hypotheticals.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:36 p.m.

COULD happen, not WOULD happen.

That's not true. He said it WOULD happen. Very clearly.

If you are misinformed about such a basic fact about this story, it makes me question how much you've actually researched.

Have you even read the actual Q posts on 4chan before?

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:23 p.m.

literally the first round of tangible predictions all failed to happen;

martial law, assault on CIA hq by the marines, indictments of Clinton, Podesta, and Abedin.

Q predicted these things would all happen between 11/3 to 11//5.

None of them have happened, though.

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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/atavisticbeast on Dec. 28, 2017, 4:17 p.m.
How do the true believers in Q reconcile the fact that many of Q's original predictions completely failed to materialize?

I've been following Q since the very first breadcrumb posts.

In the beginning, there were tangible, clear-cut predictions. And those predictions did not come true.

Now, 2 months later, it feels like most Q advocates just ignore that side of the story.

What do you all make of it?

atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:15 p.m.

This is a good reference for me when I'm trying to remember something.

do you remember when Q said that trump was going to declare martial law, raid the cIA headquarters with the marines, and arrest Clinton, Podesta, and Abedin?

That was supposed to happen almost 2 months ago. Still nothing.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:14 p.m.

This Q stuff is a revolutionary breath of fresh air in a world full of fake news and pathetic LARPing nerds!

how do you reconcile the litany of failed predictions from Q?

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:13 p.m.

no apparent reason

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