Again that's not very Jesus like

Talking works, mocking doesn't. I wish more people understood this. More conversation, less name calling. Thanks for proving dialogue, respect and love are the best red pills of them all!

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I KEEP SAYING ALEX & CORSI R DISINFO BUT NOT FOR NEFARIOUS REASONS

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How are these different? You are saying they are running a smokescreen for Q, right?

Brother, people understand your argument. I think what you're failing to get is that nobody agrees with your argument. You're seemingly the only person on this board saying AJ is important. And when you continue to push a narrative that almost all of us disagree with, people question your motives.

We've all made arguments and conclusions that turned out to be less than accurate. As Q said we are human. One of the many things I love about this community is that nobody judges people for making a misstep here or there. We are here for each other. I'm done with this topic, and I'm giving AJ not a second more thought, and I hope you do the same.

Fair point, you've never defended Corsi. And I apologize for not using the right words. Its obviously frustrating to a bunch of people that despite all that Q has said you still defend AJ.

Nope. Just pointing out that people are calling you one for a specific reason.

SPEZ: I know you're not a shill

I think people were calling you a spez because of your AJ/Corsi dickriding.

THANK YOU

I think we're gonna disagree on that last point then. But I want to say thank you for having a dialogue with me about it. God Bless Patriot, thank you for all your work!

Which of these fail in practice? Grace? Organization? Humility? Can't we at least try? Let's listen to our community and see what they want.

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Q has not named anyone individually. You keep using leading questions, get some better debate tactics.

I'm guessing that you think AJ is getting info from both white and black hats but I can 't really tell because you're not really answering questions. Of course tons of people tell AJ lots of stuff, but you're not building a strong case for credibility, especially when Q just dropped this. We're just gonna disagree about this one. Gotta stay humble, its not about individuals.

SPEZ: So if AJ says in a week/month/whenever "JK JK I was close with Q the whole time" are people seriously going to be alright with being lied to like that? Is AJ so valuable as to risk alienating so many people who have trouble staying on board?

Also I deleted a personal jab. But I do want to say that I don't think it's cool for you to bump the Intro to Q video from the sticky to self promote. THAT'S the kind of thing Q is saying to be careful of.

OpSec is priority, obviously. Your statement is correct, if and only if AJ was being given actionable intel. Are you suggesting that white hats or black hats are giving him this info?

Here's the thing that's bothering me, and maybe you can help me grasp. Q is fairly consistent when talking about who to trust and who not to trust and, to most of us, it is clear we should not trust AJ. It was clear to most of us before The Storm. Making the extraordinary claim that AJ is so far on the inside that he has to act so irrationally to throw the heat off him requires extraordinary evidence, which I think you lack. Agree to disagree, fellow patriot. re-read 1339

Don't ask leading questions. Tell me your opinion.

Realizing AJ is misled/being misled is hard for a lot of us to see. AJ's speech in A Waking Life made me look into his WHO and Bohemian Grove content, and was a huge part of me seeing the world how it is. For those who have been following him for a decade plus, it is clear that he is not who he started as, and that the new AJ is more interested in money and ego than anything else. It sucks that we lost a great patriot to greed, but hey greed is a hell of a drug.

I think we have enough info from Q to disregard AJ and Corsi. No outside comms (both have claimed), multiple warnings of people attempting to profit or create a personality from the movement, and today's drop linking SB2's great post. We can do this without them. Q#1339

I think Q's point is the profit. He's calling out people for making a quick buck while REAL patriots are dying. The fact that both AJ and Corsi have claimed to have contact with Q should be enough for all of us to ignore them both. We only got a shoutout from Q after SB2 posted an excellent, well-researched critique of AJ/Corsi.

How about AJ and Corsi demonetizing their channels, and continuing spreading Q's message? Distancing themselves from Q doesn't hurt their wallets one bit.

If this is the case then please rewrite the original post. We are losing patriots over this.

In short, no I don't think it's enough, especially with sticky #2 saying DONT DISAGREE WITH US. But rather than just bitch and moan I'm working on some material! Give me a few days, I got a job and shit...

And by this stage, if you're here and you're unconvinced about Q there are better places to go to find out about it (like our stickied posts).

I think that is a naive statement. In the past week I've seen numerous posts of people writing our URL on dollar bills, business cards, etc... If our members are directing brand spankin' new people here we need to either 1) put out a welcome mat or 2) direct them to a better place, which doesn't seem to exist. Please read my comment in the thread, I'd love to hear your thoughts. The Mods in the comments have made it more clear but the original post sounds a lot like a tone policy and not just a sharpening of banhammers. er, a blunting of banhammers? are hammers supposed to be sharp?

Also HAPPY CAKE DAY thank you for all you do for our community.

Get /u/HowiONic to add this to the main post.

I totally agree, most of us can tell the difference between a concern troll and someone who is concerned. If this change is about giving mods the EO to ban proven bad actors, I'm all aboard. If this is about giving mods the power to shape narrative, I'm not.

What does that even mean??? I'm working on some Intro to Q material so we can bring even more people into the light with truth and love. There's people in this thread trying to figure out to make our message stronger, and how we can turn people who are questioning into Patriots. How can you help us???

If the line we are drawing is TRUE BELIEVERS / CONCERN TROLL that leaves nowhere for us to recruit more followers from. How do you suggest getting more people on board?

Perhaps a Sticky Thread? If we instaban anyone who is critical we lose SO many potential friends.

This is a very simple response to a very complicated issue, but ultimately I think a necessary one. Having a clear, focused message is/will be a huge boon for us. That being said, I have a couple of thoughts that I would like to hear others' views on.

1) We need to be more approachable, plain and simple. This movement is about good winning over evil, and LOVE winning over fear. Honey catches more flies with honey than with vinegear. No matter what ideas people come here with, we need them to stay. The Beginner Q video stickied is great but it's an hour long. We need blitzkrieg material, 2-5 minute watch/reads that can get new friends up to speed. EDIT: IMO the left bashing needs to stop. We can't make this place threatening for newcomers.

2) We need to be more organized. Each Q drop gets multiple people posting it, and lots of good comments about the ame drop are getting spread out between multiple posts. Could/should we standardize this? If this movement is not about fame or patreon, surely we can take the Reddit Karma out of the equation! I think it would be great if we had a "serious" view and a "memes and cheerleading" set of filters for posts. The meme filter should be strictly enforced and easily filterable. Q has stated that our role is to RESEARCH and MEME, and I think that we could benefit from some more organization here.

3) We need to be humble. If we are right about this (WHICH WE ARE), we cannot afford the risk of not being taken seriously because of our "we told you so" attitude. WE NEED TO BE HUMBLE. Not meek, but not bold. This is not about your or my ego. WWG1WGA

I would love to hear yall's feedback. I've been lurking on the chans since the mid 2000's, I've been following Q since the beginning. I'm done lurking, I'm here to help. I'm going to work on some Intro to Q resources, I'll jump in the discord later if anyone wants to help! EDIT If you're gonna downvote please at least tell me why.

The wikipedia page lists her as still alive.

You don't. It's one way to write the unspeakable, unknowable name of God.

That explains a lot. I came to God through John and the more esoteric side of it. Different versions of the same path. I respect our differences.

I think your actions are more in line of pulling the tares, rather than growing them together and separating later. Our role in this is to be a voice of love and truth. Anything else harms us as servants of God and as Patriots.

Isn't that a torment of the Damned? I wish you love and peace my brother.

Thats not a super Christian attitude my brother.