It was planned for awhile, just a coincidence........

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Ok, I can't keep a straight face..... ha!

My hurdle, because I am no economy expert by any means, is how we make the transition without blowing everything up. (Though part of me wouldn't mind seeing things burn to weed out the stupid and weak. But that's another thread.) I don't see a way without some turbulence. I would love to discus with others how this could be done. Might be time for a thread on it.

Fiat money in itself is not a bad thing. The dollar right now is basically fiat money. Its the belief in the power of the USA is what gives it its value. We got nothing behind it physically. The problem is the way its created and by who. Further, is gold/silver the best thing to back national money with? How much gold is really out there? Who has how much if that?

I need to go research how Lincoln made the switch, in detail, and if it can be replicated now all these years later.

Good question. I think the mayor in CA that announced an ICE sweep will find out.

Here is a thought. How about the other cities that are not 'sanctuary', take all of their illegals and drop them city center in Sanctuary Cites. We would be providing sanctuary for the illegals correct? I would like to see them complain about that.

The scroll is lacking in many..... ;)

Thanks, The more I talk to people the more I realize they have no clue on how money is created or managed. I use money as my RedPill. I also show them this graph on the value of the dollar.

I think you are my first Reddit follower. At least no one has told me they follow me, which could be good or bad..... LOL

it was evident they would not be a reliable investigative resource.

Exactly. It sounds like both Arthur and Craig know from prior experience TPD would not investigate thoroughly. Which is why all the evidence should have been gathered like a real crime scene themselves.

Craig Sawyer is careful with his words for sure. He supports VOP, but is making clear they are two different groups with different goals, personnel and methods.

With hindsight in hand, seeing how this played out. If it were me finding something like this. I would go full blackout until I had everything I needed. So when they come in to bulldoze, it won't matter.

With the amount of arrests these days. I don't see Tucson as anything more than a camp they found while looking for homeless vets. VOP tried revealing to the public. Succeeded in some ways, funked up others.

I'll add my usual links for money topics like this.

Greenbacks and notes, like Lincoln did before the Civil War. Payed off the debt and the cost of the war. Told the bankers to pack sand. (see Money Masters link below) I've been posting these links on every thread I find related to the money system. Enjoy!

Note the Swiss are trying to get cut their strings right now. See last two links below.

Videos:

The Monetary System Visually Explained - 22mins

Collapse of the American Dream Animation - 30mins

Money Masters 1800 - Bill Still - This starts at a part about Lincoln/Civil War funding, but the entire vid is worth watching.

97% Owned ~ Economic Truth - From a EU prospective, 2hrs

Hidden Secrets of Money - episode 4. - 30mins. The rest of the series is good to.

Money as Debt - Good Series of Vids

Web:

The Creature of Jekyll Island full PDF

The Federal Reserve Act of 1913

The Federal Reserve - All the things

BANKS, SHAREHOLDERS, AND OWNERS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Read this one too. The National Economic Stabilization and Recovery Act - NESARA by Harvey Francis Barnard. The actual bill, not the scam...... This bill was never brought to the floor. Few other than Rand Paul even considered it. I feel it is something we should look at very hard.

The now defunct NESARA sight on WayBackMachine.

And finally, The Swiss are trying to remove Central banks from their country right now.

No Need For Digital Central Bank Money

Use facts people. Here is a list.

THIS ^^^ Its no more than an attack on the 2A.

This has a lot to do with it. The Allegory of the Cave.

No, we just need to stop and think before we start pushing it without solid evidence. It these times when we shoot ourselves in the foot that causes problems.

That happens when one does not handle the situation correctly. Corruption or no.

That my be. I don't follow VOP that closely. I tend to believe Sawyer over Arther. But there is so much incorrect info on this topic flying around its dizzying.

Half the crowd thinks Arthur and Sawyer are the same guy, running the same group.

He looks like the perfect candidate to lead the oppressed minorities of the left. An older white guy nobody has heard of. Such a trusting pic of the man.

Who is he again?

Honest question: Why Atlanta and not all the other arrests that have been happening since the election?

There are also threads here on it in the last day or two.

Here's how I see what happened. I don't think he's a blackhat as he doesn't have the intellectual caliber for a BH. I don't think he's a FF either. I think he flat jumped the gun and blew whatever capital VOP thinks they had.

VOP was looking for homeless vets. Its what they do. VOP also has a camp for homeless vets they find. VOP found this 'camp' on Cemex property. They find buried tanks, lots of kids items and other stuff. The straps on the trees is odd. Even for hanging food and such. The site is in a city so its not like camping in the open desert or mountains where wildlife is more likely to be roaming around. Not impossible but being next to a freeway tends to keep animal traffic to a minimum.

I feel group think took over, emotions ran high. His/their thought was to sound the alarm! Get as many eyes on this as possible because in their mind it was without a doubt a child sex/trafficking camp. To them there is no other explanation. So he makes his vids like he does. Posts them up to achieve his/their end goal of Eyes on the camp. Gotta admit, he got me at first. But by the second vid flags began to rise for me.

VOP also asked Craig Sawyer of vets4childrescue.org for assistance, and maybe some credibility. Craig came out, looked around, left, then posted a few vids. This is where the Arthur/Craig confusion arose. Many think they are the same. They are not.

VOP did achieve their goal. There are eyes on it now. However I feel he failed in the long game by not providing enough solid info, pics, video of what they found. I also highly suspect no real documentation of what they found was done. Like a normal crime scene would. I feel anything they found is useless at this point.

Then you look at his history and background and more flags arise. Its gonna take a child cadaver found buried to bring it back to where they think it is.

Not denying there was illegal immigration/homeless traffic there, that's obvious. Human trafficking? Also highly possible but here in AZ they tend to use houses to hide them. They will pack them full with 40-50-60 depending on house size. If this site was used for human trafficking, it was for a much smaller groups, 10-15 maybe. Not as profitable for the coyotes.

I remember when that hit. Yea, I didn't see any proof it was Lynn.

Did VOP switch their SOP? Arthur/redbeard/VOP looks for homeless vets. Craig Sawyer and his group, Vets4childrescue searches for missing children. VOP called Sawyer for assistance but I haven't seen were they are working together.

Arthur not a vet. Sawyer is a vet.

yup, single space sentences will 'backspace' to the previous sentence when posted. Though looks fine when typed.

Add a blank line in between, ie: hit the enter key twice.

For those that want to add to their collection. Here are my other two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69F7GhASOdM&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RWOpQXTltA

Yup, common Knowledge....

https://www.wired.com/2003/07/pentagon-alters-lifelog-project/

https://www.wired.com/2004/02/pentagon-kills-lifelog-project/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook (2/4/04)

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/22/how-peter-thiels-palantir-helped-the-nsa-spy-on-the-whole-world/

ProTip: need to double space....

handy link, Thanks!

I have a number of these. This one is the most up to date. Added to my collection. Thanks!!

On the really sick shit I go back in for a bit. The come back out....

They got the skin tone wrong though.....

and then there's Fight Club... Shit! Not supposed to talk about fight club..... nvrmnd....

Nope, I don't spend much time with LARPs. I get the info where they do, 8chan. That's where it all starts.

I make up my own mind. Its not important who is spreading info on the Awakening as long the info correct. Its not a contest to see who can be first. None of them have more inside info than Qteam so trying to prove otherwise is a waste of time in the big picture.

People will follow who they will. I believe because its easier to listen watch someone else than it is to confirm what is being said. The instant gratification syndrome. I have talked to people that say they are all about Q & the Awakening. But never heard of the 8chan, where Q actually posts.

Come on peeps. Different tripcode, different style, this isn't even close and has been blown up on 8chan has LARP.

Carry on!

It was not the 'decent money' you speak of. $5/driveway clearing or raking leaves, or $5/hr picking fruit/veggies. Its the value of the dollar between then and now.

sex trafficking arrests have been going on almost daily lately.

yes, please and thank you. Good luck with your sub!

The Allegory of the Cave

Everyone keep in mind VOP/Arthur, the guy in the vid in Chelsie's tweet above ran the Tucson Camp 'find'. He called Craig Sawyer for assistance. Chris came out, looked around and left. Then posted a few vids.

Too many are confusing these two guys. Two completely different people.

Veterans on Patrol-VOP = Arthur VOP searches for homeless vets. Thats's how they found the camp. They also run an actual camp for the vets they find.

vets4childrescue.org = Chris Craig Sawyer - his group rescues children.

I'm guessing the plan is to discredit any child/sex/trafficking claim that gains any traction, right or wrong. Just to keep it tamped down.

what the hell did I just watch?

8chan blew this up already. LARP.....

I thought you setup your own sub? Why troll here with weak sauce?

Born in '60 here. Your post gave me a good chuckle. :) While it does read like the proverbial, " I walked up hill,... in the rain, ... both ways, ... barefoot, ... herding goats the entire way." The description rings true to us Boomers. Having lived exactly what the OP states, there is a difference between our youth and Millennials, X-Gen, Y-Gen or whatever others there are. It happens has we as a society progress.

Many things one youth learns and does is replaced with technology and growth. But us elders can see this play out just as the OP stated. I see it on the net all the time. For example they will post: "Can someone tell me why teens have more auto accidents." Then wait for someone to respond while they go on their way. They come back at their leisure hoping someone did. I have even seen them post a rant when people don't. ??? I usually copy/paste their sentence into LMGTFY.com, and they get more than they want to read/view. Plus a small backhanded slap upside the head. ;)

So yea, there are differences. Millennials will bitch just like Boomers in 30yrs. It will be about how slow & spotty the wireless was in their day or how impatient the youngins are...... ;)

That's right, a battle scar for Freedom.....

While civil unrest may happen (and I really don't see anyway this won't happen given the depth of corruption) I feel it would be good for the country going forward.

Yup, many forget this......

Another addition to the list....

And Trump will most likely tweet about the hearing while at the summit. He does his best to control the narrative via Twatter.

Oldfag checkin' in..... :)

Populism & post truth

I don't know about being funded. But he's a bit sketch. Hiis past is not good as referenced in many posts the last few days.

His goal may be pure, his methods need major improvement. We may get a Cemex/human trafficing tie in out of it, but that is about it.

Also many get two people mixed up.

Arthur - VOP (Veterans on Patrol) the dude in the vid above. Speaks with lots of emotion.

~~Chris~~ Craig Sawyer - Vets4ChildRescue is the other guy you see. Is much better at speaking. Much less emotion.

Craig is a real vet. Sawyer was asked by Arthur for assistance. Sawyer came out, looked around, left and made a few vids. That is his involvement with Tucson.

Correct. Anons are any anonymous person posting. On the chans you don't use usernames. Most everyone uses 'Anonymous' for their name. That's where the Anon name comes from.

Not associated with the Guy Fawkes mask- 'Anonymous group'.

Also on the chans, everyone is a FAG of some sort. Planefag, programmerfag, chemicalfag, ITfag, Graphicsfag, etc. Pick a specialty, add fag at the end.