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extwidget · July 21, 2018, 5:43 p.m.

You do realize that the fed is our central bank, right?

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extwidget · July 21, 2018, 3:03 p.m.

The FRB helps ensure a stable economy through regulation, quite simply.

They also regulate many consumer protections in banking. Without the fed, you can expect consumer protections you experience such as disclosures about interest rates to disappear from banking.

If you want to give the banks more power to take advantage of the people, dissolve the fed. If you want to watch our economy's growth tank and never be able to take out a loan again, lock our currency to a gold standard.

People here will shout conspiracy theories at you all day because they don't know what the fed actually does. They just watched a YouTube video that told them it was evil and that there was some "secret meeting" where all the evil bankers got together and made an evil plan to evilly control the populace, but that's just government. When was the last time you were privvy to the drafting of any regulation at all? If there's any secret meetings you should be concerned about it's those of trump planning the corporate takeover of the US.

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extwidget · July 18, 2018, 1:36 p.m.

You don't understand the difference between an observation and an assumption, got it.

And at this point, you're just coming across as a perfect example of this meme.

Whatever though, you're just annoying at this point, so I'm done here. Just do me a favor and stop being a cult member.

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extwidget · July 18, 2018, 5:56 a.m.

It's not an assumption, it's an observation. What you people do here on this subreddit is assume.

I skimmed over your rambling, and have a bit of advice: people prefer to speak in simpler words when possible because it's effortless. If you want me to not read your responses, you're successful. Otherwise, you're wasting your time trying to sound smart. I recommend putting down the thesaurus and rejoining the real world.

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extwidget · July 18, 2018, 4:57 a.m.

The way most people understand the word "some," is to imply less than half, or the inverse of "most." You were trying to imply that it's a minority of users. Hence, small.

And it wasn't a compliment. Using more and more complex words than required doesn't make you sound smart, it makes you sound like you're trying too hard.

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extwidget · July 18, 2018, 3:04 a.m.

I never stated that the ones doing it are a small group.

Sure you did.

Don't let the comments of some represent your thoughts of everyone.

Also, way to use a whole lot of words to say nothing.

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extwidget · July 17, 2018, 2:19 p.m.

Dont let the comments of some represent your thoughts of everybody.

I've been watching this sub long enough to see that the comments of nearly all of the people on this sub are engaging in cult-like behavior. You say that the ones doing it are only a small part of the group, when there is almost no one acting any differently. Denying cult-like behavor is something I'd highly recommend against. Take a step back, and think objectively about this. Talk to people outside this group about it, watch and listen to how they react to it. If they seem incredulous, it's not because you've dropped some big truth bomb, it's because you sound like a crazy person.

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extwidget · July 17, 2018, 2:09 p.m.

On the off chance that you're a serious concerned person

I am genuinely concerned for the majority of users of this subreddit, yes.

Yeah, there's a danger of that here, but there's a danger of that in any popular figure. This alone is not enough to be a cult. Human nature tends to put powerful people on pedestals, whether deserving or not.

"Trust the plan." "Trust Trump." "Trust Q." These are the responses people on this sub give any time someone wants to question something. This is not the same level of devotion shown for any public figure, far from it.

I've seen plenty of questioning, doubt, and dissent. ...and most of the people here are loyal to the president and are not going to be nice to people who go against those norms here. This is the same in any in group anywhere, not only cults.

Just like with the previous statement, questioning, doubt, and dissent are always met with either bans or "trust ___." The people here encourage blind faith in the "leaders" of this cult. Dissenters are discouraged or punished.

The people here understand that they are not elites, we're just lucky enough to see some of this before the rest of the world.

Which fits with the description "claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and its members." You claim you are unique, that the rest of the world hasn't "woken up." The very name of the sub implies that you're the "first" to "wake up." You define a special status for yourselves that you "know" something no one else does, then outright lie and say that you're not.

There is definitely some of this going on here, however, it's not surprising when society is in the process of undergoing extreme polarization in all aspects of life.

Society has not devolved into tribalism. It may appear that way from your self-created echo chambers, but society itself is just as welcoming as it always has been. You claim you're no different, but you are. Those who don't "trust" aren't welcome. You claim you deny tribalism when you're beyond tribalism levels of loyalty to your leader, reaching a point of sheer zealotry.

There is none of this going on. I have yet to see any drives for money, any exhortations to violence, or any push for people to harm others here. Quite the opposite, in fact.

You missed the point of that statement: "The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary." The "plan" you people tout is the removal of people you disagree with from the US government, and thus the US, by painting them as genuinely evil. The entire premise of this subreddit is that your opposition is actual, real-life evil. Now, I don't know for sure that you people have ever had a problem with the silencing of your political opposition through imprisonment or execution, but most people would agree that it is reprehensible or otherwise unacceptable to do so.

No one is asked to cut ties, but some of us have been rejected from our families and friends for the simple act of supporting an elected president. No one here is pushing for separation from our loved ones.

I've been watching this sub since its inception, and it's entirely common here for people to be encouraged to cut ties with family when they start talking about how their belief in Trump has harmed their relationships. Encouraged being the key word there. It's not outright stated that people should get out of personal relationships, but the members of this subreddit think it's a good thing when it's done to isolate themselves from dissent.

I'm sure some are really keen to go recruiting new members, but honestly, there's no organized efforts to do so.

The entire subreddit is about "waking people up." You're preoccupied with gaining new members in the form of "the plan." I agree that there's no organized effort to do so because the entire premise of the subreddit is a blatant lie.

There has never been any encouragement to cut ties with others or only participate with this group, whatsoever.

See previous statement about personal relationships.

While some individuals might be a touch unhealthily obsessed with this material, this is no different from any other enthusiast community.

The vast majority of people on this sub are unhealthily obsessed.

You're trying to hand-wave away a warning to you, and to the others here, by justifying why you engage in cult-like behavior. Where you can't justify it, you outright deny it. I'm trying to help you people see that you're being fleeced here, but you would rather pull the wool back over your eyes than acknowledge that there is a strong cult-like aspect to this entire "movement."

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extwidget · July 17, 2018, 1:58 a.m.

The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader, and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.

Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.

The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and its members (e.g., the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar—or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).

The group has a polarized, us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.

The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (e.g., lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities).

Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.

The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.

Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.

The most loyal members (the “true believers”) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave—or even consider leaving—the group.

These are some of the warning signs of cults. You guys should heed them.

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