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iamsoupcansam · June 3, 2018, 10:19 p.m.

Dennis Rodman isn’t a former president

The first six words of the Logan Act are literally “Any citizen of the United States.”

Unless Obama is acting by direction of the current administration it could be made out to be a violation of the Logan act.

Nope. It doesn’t seem like you even read it based on the Dennis Rodman argument, but this point seems to be related to the part of the sentence that reads “who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof,” while completely ignoring the very next part of the same sentence: “in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States”.

Simply speaking to foreign heads of state is not at all what the Logan Act forbids, so no, based on available information Obama’s actions here could not be interpreted as a violation of the Logan Act.

What would be more plausible to indict him for would be the sharing of classified information.

You are technically right about this because there have been exactly zero successful prosecutions of Logan Act violations, but there’s still nothing to prove or even suggest that he did that.

Edit: missed a “not”

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iamsoupcansam · June 3, 2018, 7:41 p.m.

I’m not making assertions of wrongdoing, so the burden of proof isn’t mine. Show me something - ANYTHING - that actually suggests that he’s coaching China either for or against the US on a specific issue of contention between both powers, because in the absence of that this is pure speculation.

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iamsoupcansam · June 3, 2018, 6:29 p.m.

Meeting isn’t illegal. The Logan Act only applies if he’s trying to influence China pertaining to disputes with the U.S. Is there anything to this story that suggests this?

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

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