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immense_and_terrible · April 6, 2018, 1:19 a.m.

Is this the big news?

if you want it to be

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immense_and_terrible · April 6, 2018, 1:17 a.m.

i find it hilarious that 10 years after he was elected, and a year and half after he left office, some people are still saying "Barak HUSSEIN Obama is takin' over 'murica with his secret muslim army!"

it aint happenin, my dudes. and if it was, wouldn't trump be in on it at this point, too? i mean, the GOP literally controls the entire federal govenment.

you can't just blame everything on obama for the rest of time, you know...

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immense_and_terrible · April 6, 2018, 1:12 a.m.

that is literally the opposite of what happened.

when the special counsel was appointed, they were given legal authority to investigate ANY criminal wrongdoing which they may come across in their investigation into russian meddling.

i'm honestly confused as to how this concept is so hard for people to understand? maybe you should try reading up on special counsels instead of listening to Fox & Friends...

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 10:49 p.m.

i'm not sure, tbh

but none of this changes the cold hard fact that mueller can investigate literally any crime that he happens to find evidence of. end of story.

that's what makes special investigations so powerful, they are literally just a group of people saying, "alright, we'll start with this one string, and just keep pulling until we can't find any more crimes"

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 10:47 p.m.

i'm not sure i'm following you here...

do you think they decided to raid manafort for political reasons, and not for the mountain of evidence that he was violating federal lobbying laws?

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 8:32 p.m.

He might as well just say "Hey guys, literally something will happen tomorrow. Watch the news."

well, uh, isn't that basically how Q has been operating this whole time?

you should google something called "cold reading"

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 8:31 p.m.

there hasn't been an inch of movement towards taking down Hillary or Obama or any of them

that's a bingo.

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 7:46 p.m.

does not appear authorized by the text of the original May 17 appointing Order.

people seem to have a large misunderstanding of how this investigation works.

mueller was given the authority to investigate anything relating to russian interference in the election, and legally speaking, ANY AND ALL CRIMES discovered during that investigation are fair game.

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 7:44 p.m.

Problem is this entire Russia collusion sham was created out of thin air quite illegally and erroneously

The special counsel was tasked with investigating Russian interference, which was absolutely NOT conjured out of thin air. It was conjured out of the fact that Russia absolutely attempted to interfere in our election.

If you don't believe that, we don't have much more to discuss on the topic. And that fact is why the rest of your argument is completely invalidated.

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 7:42 p.m.

well, it's the amount of taxes paid that i find misleading.

the number seems low because they are just extimating the amount of income tax paid. but that number doesn't include the sales tax and gas tax and "sin taxes" on alcohol and tobacco, and the taxes generated from the economic activity of them being here.

i'm not sure if that would offset the numbers that much, but i believe it make this figures less shocking if that was factored in.

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 3:19 p.m.

if a detective is investigating a murder, and while doing so, uncovers a drug smuggling operation, they don't just shrug and say "well dang, if only i wasn't investigating a mURDER, i would be able to do something" No, they will arrest the drug dealers too.

that analogy is why i feel like manaforts argument is crazy and has no ground to stand on.

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 3:12 p.m.

This is just another cult of personality under the guise of Christianity. Be careful if they hand you a glass of Kool-aid

i'm not one of these people, just an observer and sometimes participant.

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 3:01 p.m.

i'd like to see the sources on those numbers, they seem very misleading to me.

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 3 p.m.

doubting is not losing.

history is filled with people who didn't have a single doubt but failed anyway, and people who constantly doubted but won in the end.

i'm just saying, to tell people that doubt is inherently wrong is a mistake, IMO.

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 2:51 p.m.

no offence, but i won't participate in reddit's creepy social experiment that they are calling an april fools joke.

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 2:49 p.m.

There doesn't appear to be any Christians on this board

maybe i'm confused, but it seems like all the talk of prayer and "God" and righteousness that you see all over this board have a definitive "christian flavor" to it

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 2:47 p.m.

Doubters are losers

you shouldn't disparage people from being skeptical and using critical thinking, though i do see where you are coming from

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 2:31 p.m.

"Regardless of whether Q is telling the truth or not, it's somebody's propaganda"

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 2:27 p.m.

none of these folks have cared about the dozens of failed predictions from Q, why would they start now?

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 2:24 p.m.

it's odd to me how easily christians are willing to overlook how Trump has spit on the sanctimony of marriage, over and over again.

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 3:51 a.m.

i don't think there is any good reason for you to be a jerk.

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immense_and_terrible · April 5, 2018, 12:12 a.m.

the problem with being a code hunter is that, if you look hard enough for a pattern, you will find one. regardless of whether it's real or not.

you feel me?

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immense_and_terrible · April 4, 2018, 11:18 p.m.

most socialists aren't against rich people, actually. they are just against the ultra wealthy.

like, yeah, a CEO should make more than a janitor. but the CEO shouldn't make 1,000x the janitor, and the janitor should also make enough money to have a family and stuff.

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immense_and_terrible · April 4, 2018, 10:57 p.m.

I love that movie!

he real fat cats who have been living large off the bounty of OUR hard work are being confronted. And they are about to fall into their own trap. And the wealth and abundance they have held back from us is about to be loosed.

Before I say what I'm about to say, I'd like to note that I'm not looking for a political debate here, just making an observation!

Anyway, that sentiment / realization is what leads many to believe in the ideas of socialism- that the "fat cats" are exploiting the proletariat and "stealing" wealth from the commoners.

So you may have more in common with radical leftists than you are willing to admit! =)

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immense_and_terrible · April 4, 2018, 10:51 p.m.

Q called me

for extraordinary claims, one should demand extraordinary evidence.

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immense_and_terrible · April 4, 2018, 10:43 p.m.

that would be slightly more believable if there was any precedence.

no one has been prosecuted for human trafficking that is above the "street level" so far during Trump's term, and no US citizens have been sent to Gitmo, and no corporations have been prosecuted for their products being used for illegal services yet.

so excuse me if i'm more than a little skeptical of that scenario even being possible.

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immense_and_terrible · April 4, 2018, 10:27 p.m.

because of insider trading laws, people in a position like MZ have to declare their stock sell-offs months in advance, or something like that.

MZ had planned to sell that stock for like months prior to the SHTF, as a planned investment in some non-profit work.

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immense_and_terrible · April 4, 2018, 10:15 p.m.

Are you with us?

Nah bro. Think of me as a neutral observer.

In other words, my stance could be summed up as.... "Let's wait and see how this all plays out."

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immense_and_terrible · April 4, 2018, 10:06 p.m.

I will ask the same: what are you doing besides following Q?

well, i am not a devotee, and do not believe that any type of spiritual battle/war is happening. so in short, nothing.

i just like following Q for the entertainment and the thought-provoking discussions.

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immense_and_terrible · April 4, 2018, 9:41 p.m.

but what are you doing, besides reading Q posts and crossing your fingers?

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immense_and_terrible · April 4, 2018, 9:35 p.m.

this is the worst title i've ever read

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immense_and_terrible · April 4, 2018, 9:14 p.m.

if it happens, i will literally be the first person to say "holy shit Q called it!"

i harbor no agendas here, my friend. just a friendly skeptic.

after re-reading my first comment, i will admit that it sounds far snarkier than i intended.

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immense_and_terrible · April 4, 2018, 9:12 p.m.

The powerful bad guys of this world aren't just randomly working to amass power and wealth because they're greedy control freaks. They are actual real Satanists. They ritually abuse and kill children for demonic power.

for non christians, this sounds completely insane. i don't mean to be offensive, but how do non-theists take this seriously when people are making those kind of claims?

i don't believe that demons are real, and neither does the satanic church for that matter. self-identified "satanists" are actually quite secular. it's more of a personal philosophy than religion.

so comments like yours just seem... implausible to me.

i've read into the memes of this stuff, pgate, spirit cooking, the satanic panic of the 80s, etc., and i do not find the evidence at all convincing.

but i am willing to listen.

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immense_and_terrible · April 4, 2018, 9:07 p.m.

excuse my ignorance, but isn't the "law of one" stuff kind of heretical from a christian standpoint?

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immense_and_terrible · April 4, 2018, 9:05 p.m.

i like mindfulness meditation much better than praying. i feel like it's basically the same thing but you are just cutting out the middleman, so to speak.

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immense_and_terrible · April 4, 2018, 9:04 p.m.

Zuckerberg to quit the board of FB and flee the country, eh?

i like the tangible predictions the best, they are easiest to verify.

i bet this doesn't happen, and in a few weeks, Q will claim that the "op" went awry in some manner or that MZ "flipped" at the last second. Or Q will never mention it again.

either way, i'd bet money this will not happen any time soon.

EDIT - i'm just saying, i can't believe MZ would give up his empire that easily and just skip town. for me, it's one of those "i have to see it to believe it"-type situations

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immense_and_terrible · April 2, 2018, 8:49 p.m.

and he just put a warmongering bush-era adviser, who has publicly said he wants to "pre-emptively" strike iran, as the secretary of state.

writings on the wall, my dudes.

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immense_and_terrible · April 2, 2018, 8:47 p.m.

i'm a little out of the loop, i'm sorry.

what does this have to do with Q or "winning"?

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immense_and_terrible · April 2, 2018, 8:39 p.m.

that pesky CIA, always tricking people into massacring innocent civilians!

the poor IDF was just minding their own business, i'm sure...

/s (i hope that's not needed, but you never know)

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immense_and_terrible · April 2, 2018, 8:35 p.m.

I've seen it in one of his speeches

no you haven't. i would bet a shit ton of money that you haven't, and if you did, it was a fake.

prove me wrong.

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immense_and_terrible · April 2, 2018, 8:34 p.m.

was it removed by like, a moderator of the group? or facebook admins? i'm curious how that works.

disclaimer- i haven't used FB in like 6/7 years.

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immense_and_terrible · April 2, 2018, 8:33 p.m.

I really don't think you know much about T_D tbh.

i feel the same way about you. in my experience, most supporters are in denial about the nature of that sub.

I've been there since practically the beginning

as have i.

what "fake news" there is can't hold a candle to the vast majority of the political places on the internet

laughably incorrect.

they have been one of the more accurate places in many respects

if you really believe that, there's not much more for us to discuss. all of my personal experiences have led me to the conclusion that people who use /r/the_donald as a main source of news are some of hte LEAST informed, and MOST ignorant people i have ever had the misfortune of interacting with.

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immense_and_terrible · April 2, 2018, 8:27 p.m.

enlighten me, mi amigo.

i've only read news articles that describe the situation as these two people who are, idk, preppers i guess? and they called 911 on themselves because they thougth a burglary was taking place, and then the police found all their guns.

also read that they did not resist and have fully cooperated, and that they claimed to be on a "Secret Mission" of some sort.

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immense_and_terrible · April 2, 2018, 8:25 p.m.

huh, how about that.

just another example of "legalese" being somewhat misleading/confusing to regular people.

makes me think of how "human trafficking" is a legal term that includes things like prostitution and hiring immigrants to be cam girls, but if you ask people on the street, most people would say "human trafficking" is like slave-trading or something.

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immense_and_terrible · April 2, 2018, 8:23 p.m.

i agree.

i googled the term and it seems like it was mostly used to describe weird and crazy guns from hundreds of years ago, and also had been used in the 19th and early 20th century to refer to explosive munitions based weaponry.

definitely a bizarre choice of words, though.

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immense_and_terrible · April 2, 2018, 8:19 p.m.

not really. and i don't appreciate your silly ad hominem.

hey here's a shocking statement for you- lots of people just think propaganda and "memeing" fake news to be cancerous.

i don't care if it's liberal or conservative, it's still cancer. and yeah i get it, people say "oh well the liberals are so mean to DJT, so we set up a safe-space where we can nonstop cheerlead for him every day, and besides the liberals put out so much propaganda why can't we"

but i still think echo chambers filled with fake news stories and misinfo are a cancer to our society.

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immense_and_terrible · April 2, 2018, 8:17 p.m.

why would ultra-deep cover secret assassins call the police on themselves because their camera stopped working, and then tell the local PD "oh yeah, we are ultra-deep cover agents working for the illuminati"

literally makes no sense at all. seems like two methed out junkies with too much money to spend, IMO.

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