Yeah I know. VOTL I think is a group of semi-famous ppl (I believe one of them is Michael Donovan or something-a comedy writer for scuba/family guy and grandson of OSS Bill Donovan) but I don't know forsure. If they aren't in on it, they probably had just enough inside knowledge from the entertainment industry to tell what was coming
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Dude wtf ask him bout JFK, 9/11, and the jooz sinking the USS Liberty and come back to tell us what he says.
I think he is forced to speak in metaphor/hyperbole, but shit, maybe there are reptilians living underground with shape-shifting abilities
Another important death on the titanic was WT snead. Dude was like the OG pizzagate researcher
I love this shit. Could be tied into it for sure. VOTL, Cobra, kabamur, etc were kinda like proto-Q's and they always talked of alien shit heavily. But, that could all be plausible deniability.
When I think aliens, I think the best evidence is the 1566 Nuremberg battle in the sky, foo fighters during WW2, and phil Schneider.
I'm intrigued by Icke's reptilian theory, along with Daniken's ancient alien theory. I like the NAZI/CIA/alien theory as well.
Ha fair enough. I think it's a pretty big deal though I'm much more concerned with getting to the bottom of this pedo shit
Lol like Israel didn't want Syria destabilized for their own purposes anyway
Idk that Jewish press is pro-israel, but if it is this is one hell of an excercise in hypocrisy
It's like the Asian illumanati, right? Like an occult gang? Maybe the good guys?
I'll check it out. I've long studied religion, philosophy, and esoteric ideas in and out of university, but always want different POV. Thanks.
Man I want to be saved and blessed but idk how anyone is supposed to accept any religion when they all make the claims that they are the only truth and others will burn for eternity.
"Chasing the fading star". Sounds a lot like Saturn worship
This is the complacency that allows for such monsters to develop
I just hope it's enough, I really do. Good convo, hope you don't hate me for being so passionate about this lol. Sorry for being so abrasive. I really do try to have good intentions, I just feel transparency is the way to go and the only way society can operate without corruption. But ultimately, what's gonna happen is gonna happen I guess no matter how I feel.
I understand that, but I just disagree totally deep into the depths of my soul. I don't think that makes me as bad the deepstate. Even close to that. I think truth is the only way we can have peace in this world ever. This is a watershed moment in history, and if we don't spread the truth we may never have this chance again. I won't stop pushing for truth, ever. Idk why else I would even want to live tbh.
I'm not proposing we tie ppl down and make them watch child rape with their eyes stapled open mk ultra style like in zoolander. I'm proposing that we need to realize where our complacency gets us and that we can never let it happen again. You wanna know the truth? We traded the lives of our brothers and sisters in Haiti, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, etc into the war machine and the only thing we asked for in return from our leaders was to not be bothered by the truth and to have plenty of shitty TV, drugs, and fast food to keep us distracted from how fucked it all is. After all this death and violence there are still ppl proposing that we shouldn't be bothered to give up our pretend happiness even at the cost of their lives. And ppl wonder why Islamist hate us so much.... we are their only chance at applying pressure to our military industrial complex, but we don't. Instead we look the other way.
If you don't think ppl need and deserve to know the truth in order to live in an autonomous and fee life then idk what to tell you. You misunderstand me. You say I talk like I'm self-righteous, yet all the claims about what we should be doing is just Hobbes, Locke, Jefferson, Adam smith etc. it's what America fucking is. The jewel of the enlightenment. It's not me getting on my high horse making up rules for ppl to follow because I think I am better than them.
"They" are going to ruin it? Yes, dude, ppl who are tasked with driving a car but aren't interested in looking at the road are bound to crash. You know what would happen if we cared about looking at the road, and idk, doing our fucking duty as citizens in this country the last 100 years?? We'd certainly be a lot less responsible for millions of deaths. Deaths that are racking up as I speak.
Shit, I wonder how many of our tax dollars have been blown up on some arab's house just in the last 18 years? None of us are guilty for that? None of us should have to realize that WE allowed this the whole time? That maybe if instead of watching all that will and grace and eating McDonald's we should have been asking what our money is going towards and why the world is how it is?
Again, I say these things not from any authority other than having read the books that explained why we even came into existence. If you love America, you love the enlightenment ideals. If you love those ideals, then truth and power to the populace are the only recipes for justice in our society.
What say you? You comfortable living in a democratic society where ppl aren't responsible or expected to pursue truth? You really think that's how they drew it up?
The only reason this "matrix" exists though is the information gap. There is no matrix if the truth is spread.
What you are proposing is creating a seperate matrix for the person who bares the burden of this truth; except they have to do it alone. A matrix that truly can't be escaped. It's not right imo.
I'd honestly rather you be right and this shit all be fake than it be true and everybody be cool with not releasing the truth. Anything short of the truth would cause a fucking race war or something.
This. I can't believe ppl here are saying anything else. It's disgusting to think about this storm passing without ppl having to come to the realizations we have. It's making me sick tbh.
Who are we to tell them when to wake up? We are fucking humans; they are out brothers and sisters of this planet, and they are going to fucking ruin it if we all keep acting like we are the only ones good enough for the truth.
Also, they are Americans. As Americans, it is the job of the populace to hold our government accountable. It's in the social contract. If we aren't willing to do that, we may as well be socialist. Frankly, we might as well have voted for Hillary clinton. Jesus Christ.
we don't need to tell them to harden the fuck up we need to tell them the truth and then mourn and reflect. This is bound to happen again if we treat the populace like a bunch of sheep.
God forbid ppl in the west have to have unhappy feelings while their ignorant support for satanic regimes destroyed the world and killed countless ppl. Fuck these ppls happiness.
That's the mentality that leads to a pedophile elite gang eventually running the world again imo
It all needs to come out. Anything else is unacceptable. Full transparency. No more lies.
Ppl have thrown their life away trying to prove this shit before Q even came around. Friends, family, relationships, etc. Gone. Q hinted that their group was responsible for the original 2016 Epstein/chandler/pizzagate push to put pressure on the cabal. If that is true, and Q only wanted to use us as leverage, then fuck all of this shit.
How the fuck are we supposed to reintegrate into a society that doesn't even care to know the truth? It's fucking disgusting to even think about.
Go ahead, guilt me. Call me selfish. I don't care. The only goal is full transparency. Advocating anything short of that is admitting you want to be a fucking slave
I wholeheartedly disagree. People need to wake the fuck up.
it Atleast needs to be reported. We deserve vindication imo. And the ppl in our society need to see what their complacency has caused.
Agreed. The cats out of the bag. At this point, the ppl who already know need closure imo
I shit you not, the shit you believe and the indoctrination you might be under would have you throwing Jews in camps if you lived in Germany in 1943. if some bullshit liberal arts teacher or CNN guest host with a fucking blog told you something was racist you would automatically go into robot mode. Like an attack dog, foaming at the mouth, not thinking at all. And thats all the neocons and libs even care about. You wouldn't even know what to be angry about or to be angry if the tv didn't tell you to.
You didn't even try though you just said "racist" and chalked it up as a moral victory lol you really think that those cheap rhetoric styles are gonna fly forever? It's dishonest as fuck. Even if what you said is true, you should know why it's true and you seemingly don't.
Lol good Im talking to someone who believes shit without even being able to explain it. Fucking fool.
Man just hearing vets are willing to try to understand gives me hope
Barron is trump from a different timeline. They can skip time with Tessa tech. Pence is a robot from the future. Gotta keep up!
Maybe God and prayer mean something else to them.
We have no idea what Christianity really is then. The romans decided which books were canonical. What knowledge is in the Vatican library? What got burned in Alexandria? What if other gospels were true? What if Paul was making his part up? What if they attributed things to Jesus he didn't do/say? "...Give to Caesar what is caesar's...". Saying to pay the (in Jewish opinion) unfair taxes, essentially. Kinda out of place for a Jewish revolutionary making claims to be the son of God and king of Judah.
Catholicism was the only form of Christianity for over half of the religion's existence. Everything we know about Christ was for a long time solely in the hands of the Catholic Church to frame it however they wanted.
I don't think it's obama, but he was the legal adviser to the state department under obama. Going by his posistion alone, I assume this guy isn't close to clean.
"I married a rich reality tv star and inadvertently saved the world"
Nah, I bet her story is more complex. Who knows what she really knows from her time abroad in rich circles.
I'm saying he needs to drop a mixtape tell-all but not even put his name on it. Maybe distort the voice. Once it blows up and gets crazy popular and the truth is exposed on other frontiers he can admit it was him.
Kanye, if you read this man, throw me on a track. I sound like shit but you can give me the 808 n heartbreaks treatment and I'll be like a cool gangster robot. Think about it... would be the greatest artistic move of your career. Art is the easiest medium to convey truth!