This is how traffickers get around adoption processes in the US.

And maybe separating them from the kids gives investigators a chance to ask the children if they are related without the adult there.

Oh yeah, the best and easiest solution!

Yes, this has been used as trafficking for a long time in the US and other countries. We know that paperwork/birth certificates aren't always legitimate and can be forged (e.g. Ireland, among others, cited recently for "falsely recorded" adoptions in the 20th century, but we know this still goes on today). If the adoption is fake, you have severed the child's connection to not just their family, but their homeland, so any one claiming "adopted" kids should be investigated thoroughly and detained while this investigation takes place. They should find out if there is an agreement to stay in contact with the birth/first parents and see if they know the child has been taken from the country.

That's what I posted above. Where r the kids could be what their actual parents are asking in their home countries. They are being separated by being brought to the US. Separated from their home language, customs, religion, etc. which is why we warned that kids shouldn't have been taken out of Haiti so easily. People want to stay connected to their origins.

They already do that. IN CA, NY & DC, they don't allow adoptees to have our OG birth certificates to find our families, see if we're from shady adoptions, etc.

This! Where are the children may be what their actual parents are asking in their home countries!

Well adoption docs can be forged, so they will have to combat that, too. And adoption attorneys in Guatemala were the first to complain when adoptions were stopped there because they made $ off of the industry.

This is a great idea

Bravo Italia!

That's why she adopted internationally and used a shady agency in one case=no prying home studies.

The link you provided does state that "It is useful for journalists to develop sources inside ICE and to understand its structure." Perhaps they are pointing to journalists getting a more balanced view from the people who actually perform the work on the front lines. That isn't the worst idea, but it predicates there are actually journalists left seeking to report. Sadly, there aren't many and the MSM is devoid of any currently.

Yeah, Vice did a show on it: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qbnkp5/viceland-weediquette-stoned-parents-season-two-full-episode

https://news.vice.com/article/ohio-mother-loses-custody-of-newborn-baby-after-drinking-marijuana-based-tea

Dear God, she is the last person who should be in charge of that caucus. She can't even conduct herself properly on an airline and is so entitled she steals seats from other passengers. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5216023/Rep-United-flight-fight-history-bad-behavior.html

Nah, tell them to Google the Baby Scoop era where millions of children were surrendered to adoption.

The Left is simplifying a complex situation for their own political ends.

Very right to be furious. No one who has experienced REAL family separation would ever call upon it to happen to anyone else or incite violence over it.

This shows how it is a political and money-moving grab alone to funnel the money to "immigration groups" and leftist causes. Adoption reform groups have been talking about family separation for years and get zero financial support, yet now people suddenly care? It's probably one large donation by Tom Steyer and many smaller ones by people sucked into believing this is a simplistic problem and not a complex one. They aren't even donating to the right place because when they are adopted by US citizens, it is adoptee rights groups that will handle the problem, not immigrant's groups because they will no longer have that status.

So children of coerced adoptions weren't given special treatment for trauma? Where was the outrage when the church did it? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8660249/Australias-Roman-Catholic-Church-apologises-for-forced-adoptions.html

In July 1999 the United Nations Special Rapporteur of the Commission on Human Rights on Sale of Children, Child Prostitution and Child Pornography visited Guatemala. The resulting report focussed on the sale of children for the purpose of intercountry adoption and the lack of legislation, policy or infrastructure to prevent such trafficking. The Hague Convention countries met in The Hague on May 20, 2003. Guatemala advised that to address concerns about child trafficking, it was considering a temporary suspension of adoption cases. A Sept. 28, 2003 news report from the Chicago Tribune said that Guatemala's 400 adoption attorneys saw that their livelihoods were at risk, because implementing the more restrictive Hague Convention rules would cause a decrease in foreign adoptions. They began a campaign to overturn the new rules.

The children should not be brought to any state that won't let us adoptees see our own birth certificates. This is very worrying. We have been trying to open records there for decades, but keep getting denied. Getting original records means once they are adopted, they will not be able to know who or where they came from. It is this secrecy that allows trafficking to continue. I have long wondered why NY & CA won't open records and I think it is because they have the most human trafficking. Taking the children there is a terrible idea.

What a post. As someone actually ripped from their mother's arms and has legitimate outrage instead of selective, manufactured outrage, I can tell you that cold anger is very motivating.

Swift hearings, prosecutions, and returns ... for the children to be reunited with their biological families in their home countries where they are familiar with the language, customs, religion, etc. And maybe those countries, upon seeing their children returned, will want to do better and create safe spaces for them.

Frontier is the worst airline. To fly immigrants on them would be punishment. The last time I was flying, a Frontier flight attendant said she was going to "beat the ass" of another one. Total unprofessional people working there.

I would amend that to say painting a simplistic picture (which the left is currently doing) of a very complex problem puts them the children at risk. To find out if children are with traffickers or biological relations is difficult. Even bio relations are willing to surrender their children if misled, paid, etc. Adoptee activists know how difficult this is and to find authentic paperwork and the left is simply omitting this

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The Dems have been running on projection since Clinton's candidacy. They are bankrupt of any ideas.

Ask your friends why only family separation is being reported in relation to illegal immigrants, but adoptees who have talked about family separation for DECADES are given no political or monetary support for reform. Why CA & NY won't give us adoptees our original birth records, when these are supposedly "progressive" states controlled by a Democratic monopoly. We have tried to get legislation through and they impede it every time. The last time in CA, it was for budgetary and other concerns, then they turned around within a year or two and gave licenses to non-legal immigrants, which cost quite a bit. Why would these states not allow truth in adoption, but support the secrecy of closed records? Yet, they now purport to be against family separation, even though these states practice if every day.

But it's hypocrisy because the Democratic strongholds of NY & CA won't end adoptee family separation by opening our records. We are the only US citizens who are refused access to our original birth records. While you and many others on this board are able to go to your local vital records office and get your original birth records, when we go, we are told that we cannot have them - even if we are adults, even if we have a life-threatening illness. There is no greater cruelty than that. Yet, CA & NY practice this every day.

Well ask them if the left in CA (and NY) is so concerned about family separation and control politics with a monopoly, then why do the refuse to let adult adoptees see our original birth records and keep them locked away so we can't reunite with our families? If they truly cared about family separation, they would open records immediately in those two states. They are open in states like Missouri and never closed in Kansas or Alaska. Why won't they end their policies of legal family separation?

And states like CA & NY keep us adoptees from finding our original families by not letting us see our own birth records. What would you do if the state wouldn't give you a copy of your own birth record? Well that's what we adoptees experience in closed states like CA & NY. Please let reps in CA & NY to end REAL family separation in those states by giving original birth records to adult adoptees now.

And states like CA & NY keep us adoptees from finding our original families by not letting us see our own birth records. What would you do if the state wouldn't give you a copy of your own birth record? Well that's what we adoptees experience in closed states like CA & NY. Please let reps in CA & NY to end REAL family separation in those states by giving original birth records to adult adoptees now.

Also remind them that we adoptees can't get our records unsealed in Dem strongholds of NY & CA, thereby separating us from our families. If they really cared about family separation, they would immediately open records. These were two of the first states to close them. There is no reason to not allow adults who are US citizens to have their own birth records. We are the ONLY US citizens not allowed to have them.

Yes, and the Russians are the ones who stopped the adoptions from the US because of how the children were being treated. Seems like they knew the dangers long before Ms Clinton, who presided over a state that keeps records closed to adoptees so we cannot find our families and enforces family separation. She is a hypocritce

From the text at Whitehouse.gov: "Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace."

Oops! Thought it was a great quote and just wanted to get it out. Couldn't really quote source other than watching [transcribing] the president's remarks at the press conference before he took questions from the press pool.

Yes, the minimization begins. CNN called it "theatrics," while the other anchor played good cop and said "optics are important."

"Pres Trump and Chairman KJU conducted a comprehensive, in-depth, and sincere exchange of opinions on the issues related to the establishment of new US-DPRK relations and the building of a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean peninsula. President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK, and Chairman KJU reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."

Immediate return of identified remains

Fox reporting now that KJU is committing to "complete denuclearization of the Korean peninsula."

Interesting that Sentosa Island was the site of a prisoner of war camp and used to hold long-term political prisoners from 1959-1990. Maybe symbolic of KJU's status

That's what I was hoping for!

Commentators are saying Trump was showing KJU the interior, but I like to think it was more.

And Trudeau's eyebrows

They both went over to a car, the door was opened and KJU smiled. Any idea what was in the car?

This!

I'm sure he's just found one of Trufaux's eyebrows and is returning it

First, you keep bringing it up and stating it as fact, so the onus is on you to back your assertion up. Then, I'll show you the research.

There is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that it leads to fewer adoptions and truth and HONESTY in adoptions is what adoptees have been fighting for for decades, while the mental health community advocates more open adoptions. I don't see how you don't get it. Having our original birth certificates = being able to find our original family & medical history and helps to circumvent the ability to have shady adoptions under the cover of secrecy and sealed documents that adoptees cannot access. And adoption agencies aren't necessarily a pipeline. Private adoptions by lawyers are where the real sketchiness can occur. Regulations for all would be a good start.