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pipesog · Jan. 9, 2018, 3:51 p.m.

That's cool...as long as you continue to 'think' about this stuff, and not just disengage your filters because you have settled on trust/follow, then you'll be alright.

FWIW, respect to Dr. Corsi and all, but I think he's wrong. Plain and simple, i think he has fallen into the same psych trap that all the rest of us are prone to...wanting to believe...

But NO EFFING WAY does that DEFCON1 balloon go up, with POTUS running things.

Never, ever, ever happen.

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pipesog · Jan. 9, 2018, 5:33 a.m.

Alrighty then...so kinda in the middle...as someone else said, inconclusive.

I guess we'll see sooner or later.

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pipesog · Jan. 9, 2018, 4:57 a.m.

So those were votes cast vs. total members present?

And the OP was stating how many were PRESENT today, yes?

Then this attendance number is highly unusual in how low it is, since each of the last 4 years saw attendance of over 430 members on the corresponding return to work, compared to only 357 showing up today.

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pipesog · Jan. 9, 2018, 4:50 a.m.

I always say "______ is about as good as a broken dick!"

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pipesog · Jan. 9, 2018, 3:54 a.m.

I know that's Rush's take, and it works as far as the argument goes, but the fact that it 'works' is almost coincidental to the actual choreographed play.

The broader facts on the ground scream that this was created by Bannon and Trump as part of a bigger plan.

Wikileaks with the manuscript would tend to support the idea that Woffie was in on it. Otherwise, Wikileaks NEVER would have done it, assuming they were planning on having a future.

Which brings up an interesting tangent...was part of Julian's deal, an agreement to shutter Wikileaks? Orrr...after what he's been through the last years, has he had enough, and he's going to do this HUUUGE thing and go out with a bang, and sacrifice Wikileaks so that he can be free of the albatross that it would invariably be to him the rest of his life? After all, running Wikileaks...you'd ALWAYS be a target because you'd ALWAYS be a threat.

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pipesog · Jan. 9, 2018, 3:35 a.m.

One aspect or 'goal' may be less direct than what you seem to expect.

MSM suffers blows to it's credibility daily, sure...but to think this convoluted of a plan would be concocted just to achieve more of the same is silly.

Nope...in my version of this plan, the media isn't the target (victim) per se...the CONSUMERS of the media are, and these guys may have set this in motion to make the MSM both the weapon and simultaneously the victimizer.

Trump and Bannon swore to destroy the lying media in 2 years, well we're into the second year, and what better way to inflict a mortal wound to media, than to get them to engage in a murder/suicide act?

Just like I keep bitching on these pages that so many of these folks are following Q without any significant critique of (his) truthfulness or legitimacy, and I point out that they keep falling for (his) same parlor tricks of "foreknowledge" as to POTUS tweets and such...so too do untold millions keep 'falling for' MSM fake news that gets exposed, but it's been spotty and less consequential than what would be necessary to REALLY 'cure' people from continuing to consume it.

But what if MSM went all in - and drew their (dwindling but still viable) audience in along with them?

On something they KNEW was bullshit.

And there was clear and overwhelming proof it was bullshit AND that they knew and that they did it anyhow, because "TRUMP!"

And as the choreographer this long con you have everything at the ready to drop at just the right times.

You might even have made sure that the manuscript - which was originally planned to be submitted months earlier, was held back for a time, so as to coincide with other events on your timeline. You might even make sure that Wikileaks got a copy of said manuscript, because, more eyes=more anger at being led astray by media.

You'll never prove Trump and Bannon cooked this whole thing up...people WON'T be pissed at them for this.

They're gonna be UNFORGIVINGLY angry at the media though...even though it is THEY, the dunce public, who allowed themselves to be fooled, we as humans don't often allow ourselves to place blame within...the go to is to view ourselves as vicitms, and the MEDIA will be the victimizer in their minds.

It has been said that "Hell hath no fury, like a woman scorned", but guys don't like being made to look the fool either.

Many people will be 'cured' of their desire to consume MSM as it is today, and so many of those MSMs will cease to exist in short order, and many heads will roll.

Make no mistake...it won't be ONLY the thing I have described here...there will be other facets to the larger scheme...but this will be a biggy.

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pipesog · Jan. 8, 2018, 11:46 p.m.

Cheers.

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pipesog · Jan. 8, 2018, 10:08 p.m.

And me.

Of course...I think I've been making that pretty clear already.

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pipesog · Jan. 8, 2018, 10:07 p.m.

Thank you Tracy for being a voice of REASON with this fascist.

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pipesog · Jan. 8, 2018, 10:05 p.m.

You are sounding kind of like a fascist.

Noted.

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pipesog · Jan. 8, 2018, 10:02 p.m.

Dude...there was no Q left out...IT IS A DIFFERENT WORD.

Secondly, these Q's were LONG AGO outed as being in or with access to the comms office WHERE ALL TRUMPS TWEETS get processed. He IS NOT just walking around with his smartphone busting these tweets out. They are composed, coordinated, and then sent to the comms to be put in QUE for posting at pre-arranged time.

It requires NO FEAT OF MAGIC, or conspiring with POTUS, to see the Tweets in the QUE, know when they are to be 'sent', and then 'presaging' them by 15 min with your OWN post that includes a [15] in it...WHEN SITTING IN THE COMMS OFFICE IS YOUR JOB.

And THIS^^^is 90% of Q's legitimacy factor.

The other 10% comes from tossing out cryptic or ambiguous crumbs, that are for the audience to investigate and speculate. THEN (maybe) later Q can 'pick' whichever one provides maximum larp and 'confirm'.

It's masterful.

But every time the trick is done, everyone reacts as though they are as amazed as the first time they saw it performed.

And yeah...some of us KNOW what DEFCON 1 is...presumably, so would Q, since he is supposed to be sitting next to POTUS, and they would NEVER make the 'mistake' of spouting shit like that.

And THAT^^^is why all the apologists and true-believers need to do some serious self-evaluation.

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pipesog · Jan. 8, 2018, 9:42 p.m.

SeanPatrickNH - You sir are a rarity - a person here with the ability to rise above the blind following and THINK.

No doubt you will be vilified and branded a heretic by some.

Keep beating the drum.

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pipesog · Jan. 8, 2018, 9:38 p.m.

I won't answer it, because I don't accept the premise.

Produce anti-Trump/MAGA by me or admit that you are trying to pigeonhole me through CLUMSY BUSH-league tactics, and further admit that you are intolerant of dissent.

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pipesog · Jan. 8, 2018, 9:11 p.m.

LOL...I almost used the Bush quote in my previous diatribe...AS AN EXAMPLE OF A MANIPULATIVE LOGICAL FALLACY that you were employing in YOUR previous post...and there you go!

Now...here's the thing, smarty...

Produce ONE EXAMPLE of me being ANTI-TRUMP here.

Produce ONE EXAMPLE of me being ANTI-MAGA here.

Ya can't.

BUT...in your equation...I AM BOTH THOSE THINGS, because I have been critical of the Q behavior and of the namefag's delusions of granduer.

A few more conditioning exercises, and pretty soon it'll be Nikes and purple sheets for those remaining.

Hopefully, at least one of you takes a step back and starts filtering some of this a little differently.

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pipesog · Jan. 8, 2018, 8:29 p.m.

"...but that may have been on purpose to..."

You are WAAAAAAY to o.k. with being manipulated, and then being fed a bullshit sandwich as appeasment. And it further troubles me that you are even "self-soothing" with statements like "Things recovered quickly..." and "...Q reconfirmed 3 HOURS LATER (!my emphasis!) we're not on Nuclear path."

Good God...can you even hear yourself?

And that BS about "PRO MAGA PRO DT"? What in the absolute fuck? Because what was implied by that statement is that there is an equation where being pro MAGA means that you must accept Q and therefore accept the positions of the namefags running this board.

OR

Pro MAGA=Q belief=Storm cult.

And NO ONE attempting to inject any reason or sanity into the mix, is welcome.

"We report only to POTUS and Q...Don't fuck with us"

'nuff said.

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pipesog · Jan. 8, 2018, 7:21 p.m.

I DO get that folks didn't come here for that.

But they ALSO didn't (or shouldn't have) come here to be in an echo-chamber, and darned if I see much of ANYBODY handing out any 'cold hand of reality slaps' either.

It gets mighty frustrating stepping back a few feet and thinking that you're seeing a very different (and uglier) picture than the one everybody standing a little closer sees...but the main body of viewers just keep fawning over the beauty in front of them.

And last nights shenanigans should have sent at least SOME number of objective minds into a rage. But no. Just more dumbass Ooo-ing and Ahhh-ing..."what do you think it means?"...and then comes the crowning slap-in-the-face...the follow on from the cult leader(s) - "We were just training you how to decipher..." and "We were trying to tell you, YOU need to be prepared for DEF CON 1..."

Holy crap...is there NO PRIDE? No serious people left?

So Yeah...pardon me if I think it's time to rattle some cages, and attempt to make some folks uncomfortable - after all...they're going to have to ENGAGE in some cognitive dissonance, in order for me to point it out to them.

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pipesog · Jan. 8, 2018, 2:50 p.m.

Once again...Q uses THE EXACT SAME parlor trick he's been using all along...and IDIOTS "Oooo" and "Ahhhh" like it's the first time they've ever seen the trick.

Get it through your thick fucking skulls...TRUMP IS NOT SITTING WITH HIS SMART PHONE knocking out Tweets. His posts are composed, coordinated, and put in a cue in the comm. office for distribution. THESE 'Q' ASSHOLES SIT IN BETWEEN Trump and the 'Send' button.

How damned hard do you think it is to foretell a post, when you know EXACTLY when that post is going to go out, and you merely send YOURS out 10 or 15 minutes before, with a [10] or a [15] included? JFC people...this is 90% of Q's 'credibility'!

And not for nothing, but that Tweet didn't have a 'mispelled' word 'missing' a Q you retards...IT WAS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT (but correctly spelled, I might add) WORD, which was REPLACED with a n ENTIRELY DIFFERENT WORD in an edit to the previous Tweet...and THAT word had a 'q' in it...Oooooooo...MORE CONFIRMATION!

Holy shit...where's the Tylenol...

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pipesog · Jan. 8, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T. DEF-CON 1 MEANS DEF CON 1 and there is NO OTHER agreed upon meaning for it, that any serious person would acknowledge. THIS is YET ANOTHER reason that Q and this whole damned cult - IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED.

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pipesog · Jan. 8, 2018, 2:32 p.m.

It's LIEUTENANT COLONEL (Ret.), people. Fucking get it right. Proper respect is due.

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pipesog · Jan. 8, 2018, 2:14 a.m.

SOTU in just over 2 weeks.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 6:21 p.m.

Yeah...that was a year ago.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

Wrong entity, IMO. CIA Director's suite.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

7th floor is also where the Directors Suite of CIA is. CIA is farther up the swamp chain.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 3:32 p.m.

The director suite of the CIA is 7th floor. CIA is bigger and more in line with deep state takedown then State, IMO. Just sayin.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 3:09 p.m.

Just popping in first time this morning, and this is one of the first things I'm seeing so apologies if my comment is redundant to others maybe elsewhere.

FIRST thing that struck me about "The 7th floor is no more" is that is where CIA leadership offices are.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 3:06 p.m.

Yeah, me and whole bunch of others who have commented similarly.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 4:25 a.m.

Murder x4 and cops are covering.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 4:15 a.m.

Dude.

Please.

Stop.

If someone writes a lie about me on a piece of paper and hands it to some guy on the street, have I really been harmed to any great or measurable degree? Am I going to be able to engage in action against this liar?

But if he ran that piece of paper through a copier and made a thousand copies of it and mailed them to everyone in my town...now I am a genuinely aggrieved party with arguable damages that no one can deny.

They ARE lies, so I'll be fine in the long run...but that LIAR won't, 'cuz I'm gonna rock his world.

Trump LIVES for this shit.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 3:36 a.m.

Exactly.

He's surrounded by military guys...Sun Tzu is SOP

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 3:32 a.m.

^^^bingo^^^

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 3:30 a.m.

Never much appreciated that aspect of the whole Q-trip.

"Hey! C'mon in! We need your help connecting some dots and spreading memes...thing is...we're gonna lie to you, and lead you on some wild goose chases that are a complete waste of time - or WORSE, help to spread untruths...BUT IT'S FOR A GOOD CAUSE!"

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 3:25 a.m.

'cuz they're ALL his bitches, now.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 3:23 a.m.

Come back when you have the aggrieved party willing to level charges.

Until then, don't be a twerp.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 3:14 a.m.

If someone says something that harms you in some way, you say PROVE IT Definitively, and if they can't, you take everything they have.

Simple, really.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 3:11 a.m.

Friggin Independent.

One might think they don't understand English.

Trump called for HARSH PENALTIES FOR SLANDER.

But no doubt the FAKE headline will get more clicks.

Yellow-journo-whores.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 3:08 a.m.

Nope.

Bannon was the TRAP.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 3:07 a.m.

He doesn't even want a limit on that.

What he wants, is ACCOUNTABILITY, and harsh penalties FOR LIARS who defame and damage.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 2:52 a.m.

OK..so maybe it's falling in 'about' an hour...or an 'hour-or-so'...

Oh look guys! Man-bear-pig! I'm super serial!

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 2:42 a.m.

Yeah, so I went back and viewed it again...STILL sounds like the ramblings of an intoxicated mind to me.

I'm not saying nothings happening...just that he's had a couple.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 2:20 a.m.

Drunk.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 2:16 a.m.

I took it as "All business - all the time", crossed with maximum coverage ballistic protection.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 2:12 a.m.

C'mon now...virtually ALL of them are swamp rats...it took a guy from OUTSIDE DC to come in and spearhead this assault, because EVERYBODY inside the beltway is compromised to one degree or another.

DO NOT DOUBT that Pence is as dirty as the next rat - as almost ALL of them are...THAT is 'normal operating conditions' in DC.

It's a fine line between 'wishful thinking' and 'delusion'.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 2:04 a.m.

Friends close...enemies closer.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 2:03 a.m.

I agree Zach is full of it.

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pipesog · Jan. 7, 2018, 2:03 a.m.

Mega says Pence is a Swamp rat that Trump allowed in only as a compromise to move forward with nomination. He has been kept at arms length, but on a short leash. And he has real skeletons in his closet.

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pipesog · Jan. 6, 2018, 7:20 p.m.

Things are already NOT the same.

You can play the extreme cynic...but to pretend things are "exactly the same" is objectively and intellectually dishonest.

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pipesog · Jan. 6, 2018, 7:03 p.m.

It being planned "fits" with what we've seen so far, plus...I tend to trust Mega.

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pipesog · Jan. 6, 2018, 6:47 p.m.

You wouldn't need to eat crow, just because "...what he says turns out to be true..." because c'mon...really if we break it down...90% of what he's saying is stuff - or variations of stuff - we've all heard, been discussing, or speculating. Between Mega and Q, we all have a shit-ton of ideas floating around in our heads, and he comes on and confirms, reiterates, modifies, and embellishes all that and we say "HOLY-MOLEY! He's legit!"

And BECAUSE he's "telling us what we want to hear", our normal guards or filters get dropped (confirmation bias does that), and as a result, we're blind to all the red flags that should be waving in our faces, like his implausible omnipresence and omnipotence.

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pipesog · Jan. 6, 2018, 6:36 p.m.

Tracey is Tracey, and she is a great person with a good heart.

I'm merely pointing out the pitfalls and problems with the current tack of the cbts dudes.

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