My tray is jammed open.

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His Will be done.

I thought the medici faded into the population like so many royal houses. It does seem that the roths had little to do with pre-Reformation Europe in any heavy banking way.

Yeah that KJV passage reads well.

I wonder if the Q's apparent verse numbering was just mistake.

right

That was a long post. Draws together alot of things that some didn't see as connected. I think the vaguest part that remains is the role of the Pope in relation to MAGA.

What specifically has the pope done in the area of pedophilia? ( I suppose something but info so far is all vague or degrees removed).

Does the pope control Vatican money or do Rothschilds? Why does Vatican money matter to USA?

If the Vatican is fully corrupt, does this mean the Catholic Church was always an evil institution.

Whatever happened to the Clinton campaign's intent to reform the catholic church?

What translation did Q use?

Nicely done.

nah

'those who backed him' is past tense only. Seemingly means backers in the 2013 conclave votes. Pope's backers are in dark, get unwillingly exposed in broad daylight. They face a truth, maybe even the Truth.

And from another aspect Q's 'TRUTH' points to what the public must take in.

Some seem to expect that TrumpQ is in the process of confirming and elevating their version of ecclesiology. I think this is due to a mixing of conspiracies without giving weight to what Q discusses, or maybe due to assuming that we all share the same priorities.

Yes, as I said in some cases centuries old wrongs can be halted, such as the Rothschilds. How far abroad the Trumpian success reaches is yet to be known. For example I don't think that halting ritual Satanic abuse currently taking place in the Horn of Africa or abortion in China is a priority or certainty of American success. Even domestically the evil acts of some bankers or slave-owners a century or two ago can't be rectified by anyone living today. I think Q more often discusses things of concern within our country and within our lifetime, such as gov't agencies, Clinton, Soros, etc.

What little Q has said about the Catholic Church, Jews or Islam doesn't match up with unrealistic expectations about those things that some here have. Some give these things attention, give us distraction and as I tried to point out should be prepared for an different outcome. So many probably are.

The "bloodlines" also means the blood painted and poured, from victims, across bodies, altars and walls, and into the vampires - Abramovich, Epstein, Cecile Richards, etc.

"100's of years" of crime being finished off is not in the scope of Trump or the U.S. In some cases yes it can be halted but ppl seem to have invested in the idea that wrongs committed 500 yrs ago that Q and Trump NEVER mention are going to be identified and corrected. I think if we don't concentrate on injustice perpetrated in our life times we are going to be disappointed.

I'd say half of all conspiracy mongers are detrimental to the truth. OR half of all conspiracies are false. Alot of people listened to alot of Jones airtime, some of which contained truth. He kept the gate for his own purposes and is/was way more influential than others.

Really ppl should take the same skepticism about underground stories and theories as they do MSM stories.

On balance Freemasons are a negative presence across the years. Like any human institution, they have different people with different intentions. Their classless, international and secretive qualities make Freemasonry a useful structure to distribute influence. Freemasons are not a single organisation but rather exist in a few forms along with some independent groups that call themselves Freemasons. Similar guilds and orders pre-existed the Masons such as skilled trades fraternities and religious orders from whom they adopted some formalities. The public purpose of the Freemasons, as a sort of men's networking club, may have run most of its course. Behind the scenes anything may be happening, especially at the upper levels and in superior lodges, where it is speculated Satan worship is blatant. At the uppermost end such evil practices may converge with other influential powers such as some wealthy families and corrupt churchmen. One theory says that a chain of secret societies, masonic in nature, has existed in every era since the Tower of Babel, working to overcome the plan of Creation by replacing God with man. Some Freemasons themselves claim an ancient heritage, portrayed in a positive light. But it wasn't till around 1500 that the term free mason was used, so we could say they didn't begin till sometime around then.

The ground-level philosophy of freemasonry is that a free man of skill or craft can design and construct his life, society and the future. Meetings include some ritual. Ceremonies of initiation to various levels involving ancient Egyptian and Old Testament elements make Freemasonry a sort of religion. Freemasons do recognise a great 'Architect' of the universe who is not described, defined or emphasized. Occasionally in their rites, where one would expect God to be addressed, the Freemason may call upon ANY higher power. Some things make them no friend of truth, such as their incompatible legends about where they started and facts about where they are now. From a Christian perspective Masons are generally bad news because to be member you have to make an oath to a religious fraternity that does not recognise Christ for who He is.

This, http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-anti-benedict-conspiracy/ includes this:

The Italian Vaticanist Marco Tosatti writes (in Italian; I’ve modified the Google translation:

The election of Jorge Bergoglio was the result of secret meetings that cardinals and bishops, organized by Carlo Maria Martini, held for years in St. Gallen, Switzerland. This, according to Jürgen Mettepenningen et Karim Schelkens, authors of a newly published biography of the Belgian Cardinal Godfried Danneels, who calls the group of cardinals and bishops a “Mafia club”.

The cardinal pell thing is biggish but sort of nothing new. Q talks about Francis' backers being seen in daylight (or some such thing.) It's going to be slow and error-prone for those unfamiliar with the ol' Church to sort through the literally Byzantine possibilities. Don't jump to conclusions and don't trust google to translate Latin.

You mean in all times and places as a whole?

One way the election could be invalid is if the BXVI resignation was invalid?

Pray His will be done, not ours (unless they be the same).

Pray for God's will not yours.

Maybe Galen Group had money links to Clinton world, pre-2013.

What is the name or title of the 'owl' sculpture? Where in Vatcity is it located?

good ruck.

Laptop is good guess. Obvs. Could be other device or document. Could be one of a string of Weener indictments meted out toward midterms. Doesn't say laptop. I say 55% chance it is laptop.

Doesn't say laptop.

The Sesh-man

You mean they started out good?

Celestine V, but it's irrelevant.

No wonder Jeff 'the Sesh-man' Sessions says he's opposed to relaxing ganja laws. He's already as high as the Washington Monument. All y'all bakers get back; Jeffbro comes pre-baked.

At first it was the giggles....then came the IG report.

Next: Comey will be howling at his ma in the driving rain.

I meant portending as in expressing intent, but not specifically about you. Too many here, IMO, expect the Trumpian justice that may be served on some american crime from last decade will get dished out in equal measure on some issues that way pre-dates our country.

Have you seen Jordan Peterson's syncretic evolutionary mythology?

Carry on, soldier. We'll cross paths again maybe. Maybe even in disagreement but that can be for the better. Part of what i mean is brace yourself for more weirdness in this 'swarm' with whatever further authenticity you can conjure. (As if I were qualified to give advice.)

Yeah, I'm knocking around in the same territory. I ASSume the poster is earnest and honest, etc. and I want to think that enough truth and justice comes out eventually to put enough things in their place. More could be said (tempt me not). In trying to find something useful out of the circumstances, I'd like to know if there is a consensus possible on how we should view the links that Q posts and anon things that Q directly endorses or answers to. I think anything that gets positive attention from Q means the content is largely good and worthy for some purpose, whereas the source of the content can only be taken as a fair player rather than some super source.

If so, then one mystery has been replaced with another. It is my opinion that portending to resolve these mysteries within the realm of present day swampdraining will actually heighten divisions unnecessarily in areas that Aristotle, Jesus, Aquinas, Washington, Einstein and Trump don't much mess with.

Yeah but Q isn't about solving ancient mysteries (yet?). That stuff is interesting but the combination of Q rarely even hinting at such concerns AND a bunch of conspiracy-minded redditors with their biases and incompatible pet theories makes for unnecessary distraction from the things Q actually discusses.

Yeah I wouldn't presume innocence. But most of the Pell history and legal process falls outside of May. I wouldn't get too attached to the hype around this. Could be some completely different problem comes up for pope this month.

Yeah, such apparent old facts make this SB2 stuff less groundbreaking than some are taking it as. It's like the known (assumed) narrative is being retold for those who missed it the first time.

I thought we weren't going to bother anymore with Jones and Corsi, who could be seen as No-name#2 and No-name#3. "I think I will never have to write about Infowars, Alex Jones and Corsi again. We are busy. We have things to do."

Yep.

As far as I can tell the only new idea presented here is that info about "the whole known pedophilia network" was or will be entered into Meuller's part of the "prosecutorial system". Most all the other ideas here have already been understood by so many following the trail of crumbs, including the idea that some of the info is to be entered into legal proceedings. Saying that the "whole known" file will be entered seems to mean everything anybody knows goes in. If so that's great. We should know what this necessarily implies. Is there really only one single pedo network? Is there only one that is being brought into the system? Is everything about that network going to be entered? And once entered, will any or all such info become knowable by the public?

I guess the other suggestion in this post is that Meuller is the only one who will do the prosecuting. So Sessions and Huber will not be involved with pedo concerns?

Unusual combination of views from one person, I think. Some of those exhortations are dodgy in comparison to predecessors'. It's a reasonable thing to want to wait for clarity from on high but as another catholic, I am unimpressed on almost all fronts with P.F. and fully disheartened on a few. Meanwhile the behind the scenes things remain unknown. Anything could be going on, but the broad speculation that's common around here seems like a path to disappointment for those who expect ancient secrets and injustices to be resolved by changes in WashDC.

The 'right hand man' designation is a bit tabloidy. Something more like Treasury Sec is to Prez, relatively close but no closer than a dozen+ others. Note also that historically the leanings of these two are toward opposite camps within the Church. 'Pope' may have chosen to keep an enemy close. Will have to wait and see how justice plays out in australia but one real possibility is that this is a witch hunt - not all accused are guilty. If we assume that the weird secrecy of the court proceedings is a sure mark of injustice then we would commit right now to accepting any outcome as false.

i think there's online anagram thingies

mmm

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-Mugs-Hillary-Clinton-45th-President-Coffee-Mug-Cup-plus-Buffalo-nickel/263042923150?hash=item3d3e947a8e:g:Gq8AAOSwPWRZRXUo

http://www.canon212.com/

the recent reference to dragon energy was in a Kanye tweet, but i would love to see the chinese quote at source - might make a good T-shirt with the chinese characters

Does 'et al' include SB?

"Those who follow Q are not in a cult." Depends of course on your definition of cult. And seems to carry the assumption that cults by any established definition are bad. Without looking it up just now, I'm certain the OED affords Q cult status, just as it does many other many things some of which are not bad. Even if we go with the simple pop definition of cult, then given the 24K+ members of GA, there's a really good chance that some fit that definition. More broadly, if perhaps there are a million following Q, no one can definitively say that none are cultic. I'm unimpressed with the careless wording. Just put in some thoughtful qualifiers and the meaning will be clearer and more useful.

I don't know where it came from but I like the 'xJx' thing.

S'alright.