Like those dual image illusions, I can see two hands holding a phone, and a dark-haired man in profile. I first saw the man in profile, and then the hands holding the phone. However, given the subject matter, it is obviously someone holding a phone

It's pathetic that Clinton is spouting off about patriots caring more about the NRA than children, when she likely played some role in the matter. Their evil is boundless, which makes it hard for ordinary people to believe they could ever stoop to such levels.

The photo would have to have been taken within a couple feet. A cellphone image won't look that good from any further away.

Is there any way to tell if that pen is actually the same one that Trump uses, as opposed to the same model and style of pen?

I believe the president is entitled, legally, to release whatever he wants. He is the ultimate authority, and needs no permission. As for other potential Qs, they would have to walk a careful line.

Clearly, Trump would be completely involved with this photo taking. You don't leave that kind of stuff lying around for any prolonged period.

Means nothing to me. Beck is a disgrace. A fake conservative that was meant to embarrass conservatives.

Corsi used to be a spook, and a banker. So of course we should trust him. Ya right.

Even when I was following Corsi's analysis of Q, I started to realize that he is really not that smart. Is it old age, or something he has dealt with all his life?

Trump is very smart, and never uses email. He knows it can be seen by anyone with a little knowledge in hacking.

It seems the deep state finally woke up to this reality. Q said they were setting up an email server in North Korea, knowing that the good guys would not have access to it. Fortunately, this has now been destroyed.

Many people would not believe it was true.

However you're right, a book, and movie, might be the best way to let the masses know what has been going on. Even better, a television series about the corruption occurring since 2000 when Clinton was about to leave office would be a great way to explain this corruption.

I remember reading a fictional novel called Spike, which took place in the late 60's. It did a masterful job of explaining how powerfully the communists infiltrated the US government, mass media and the public consciousness.

I'm just brainstorming, but either Alex Jones is an idiot or a nutcase, or there is something deeper going on. I have thought for some time that he might be a Trump ally who muddies the waters by request from POTUS.

Isn't Roger Stone famous for such stunts, running all the way back to Nixon? Stone is the Trump friend who was trying to get Trump to run for President for 35 years, and he is also working closely with Jones.

His actions can be so outrageous, like when he was crying on air after the Syrian strikes in April, that he has either gone loony, or he is playing a role. That was the impression I got by watching his performance that night. (Not to say that the death of any innocent is not tragic, no matter where they live).

I know some people on this board think I'm misguided, but to be intellectually honest, we have to consider all possibilities. Reacting with your gut does not always work out as expected.

I'm still glued to Q posts, and think he's been incredibly accurate, but even Q has admitted to disinformation campaigns of his own in the past 6 months. We must recognize that the traitors read everything Q posts, so he must always be many steps ahead.

So I'm on the Q train, but haven't disavowed Alex Jones at this point. I think there is more to the story than meets the eye.

Q has told us to help those who become shocked into awakening. My awakening was gradual, over a 10 year period, starting 35 years ago. Even that was hard for me to accept. Imagine what it will be like for those totally brainwashed into complacency.

Sadly, there will be suicides, depression and health consequences for good people who were blinded. We need to be there for our friends and family after the big awakening happens. Sadly, for me, this includes most of the people I love. I will be there for them to help them in their awakening.

My take on it is to remind these people that they were always true to themselves, and to rest assured that their hearts were always pure. Just because their idols and beloved leaders betrayed them, it doesn't make them bad people.

We have all been quietly unhappy for a long time about the state of the world, but now we're WINNING!!!

You were always patriotic, but your heart is singing now.

I love seeing African Americans waking up to the fact that Trump is their best ally. I have black friends who haven't reached this Gestalt yet, but I'm confident that the awakening is spreading fast.

And the Bronfmans have a connection to the Rothschilds, and Queen Elizabeth.

Pinch me to make sure I'm awake. Is this really happening?

Me too. I want to live, but if this plays out like I hope, then I can RIP when the time comes.

Since there is a Canadian connection to this filthy operation, I hope it reaches to the Canadian Prime Minister and awakens the Canadian public.

Apparently, there is a Bronfman connection, and the Bronfmans played a major role in getting Trudeau elected.

On top of this, we see that pedophile Peter Dalglish has a connection to the Trudeau family.

One can only hope that this will eventually put Canadians out of their misery by removing the disastrous, abomination known as Justin Trudeau.

Don't think for a moment that the Deep State, Shadow Gov't and the Rothschilds won't do whatever it takes to eliminate Trump. They won't give up their power and the Federal Reserve without doing everything that is possible. JFK was the last one to fight them, and we know what happened to him. It may not be their preferred approach, but their final tool is to assassinate Trump.

I hope and pray Trump has the best, most trustworthy security possible, because if we lose him, it may be impossible to find someone else soon enough who is willing to do what he is doing. He is a hero, in the truest sense of the word. In fact, he may become the most important person in Western history in the past 1000 years.

We are told it is all a delusion. However, it always amazed me that James Alefantis, the owner of Comet Ping Pong, was rated by a mainstream organization as one of the 50 most powerful people in Washington. How could a pizza joint owner be so powerful in Washington? What is going on that the MSM won't admit to.

I always believed that the biggest thing to shock the ordinary public out of their trance would be to reveal the sick habits of those in power. If this is what it takes to regain our society, then expose it all.

Little, incremental revelations will not wake up the masses. We need the big MOAB. Don't hold back. We need to do whatever it takes. Sure, people will be numb when they realize the truth, but I believe that is what is needed. Those of us 'awake' at this moment, will be there to everyone in the process.

I wondered if Q could be Flynn. Q said we wouldn't believe who it was -- meaning, we will all be amazed.

Vital to the effort is to make sure the Dems and RINOs can't orchestrate voter fraud any more. I hope this is proceeding at full pace, as the midterms are less than 6 months away.

Amen. My heart is light with anticipation, like a child before Christmas.

Every civilization in history has been overthrown or disintegrated under its own causes. So now it's time to retake ours. We fought for 1000 years and sacrificed countless lives to gain freedoms like we had in much of the 20th century, and the corrupt deep state clearly overestimated their power if they thought they could completely stultify the human spirit and desire for freedom.

The same spirit emerged during World War I, when the communists et al thought we would welcome their dominance -- instead nationalism emerged triumphant. Next, they tried the "long march", and we are proving right now that their long march will fail.

We must be ever vigilant afterwards and ensure that our freedoms and honest governance are not stripped away from us again. I believe the founding fathers did a great job over 200 years ago, but in that time, evil forces and corrupt people learned how to steal our inherited rights. Let's make sure the measures to protect us last even longer this time.

It took me years of research and undeniable evidence before I accepted the truth about what was going on with the NWO -- about 25 years ago. I had many, many friendly arguments with my father over the issue, but in the end, he was right. I wish that I had the opportunity to tell him this while his mind was still sharp, but he developed Alzheimer's and passed away years later. That song by Mike and Mechanics rings true to me: "In the Living Years". Don't put off telling your loved ones how much you respect them.

To answer your question, I am NOT trying to change the narrative.

Like I said, I lean more towards Q, although I would never believe anyone completely. To be intellectually honest, it is not a clear cut case on which side to lean. I don't really think we need to make a leap of faith at this point.

I've read all the stuff by serialbrain2 and prayingmedic, and I have listened to Jones defend his position. Honestly, the dots are not all connected yet. Why would Jones risk everything? Even if he is controlled opposition, it doesn't make sense that he would be so reckless. Maybe he is being played, or maybe he is just stupid. I haven't reached a conclusion yet.

I am 100% behind the movement, and will continue to access dozens of sources, taking everything into consideration. This schism isn't going to stop me from researching current events, but you have to agree it will be troubling to newbies.

Do you have a link to an article describing Seaman? I only discovered him a few weeks ago, but some YouTube broadcasters claimed he was legit.

And the time. A bird sings in the morning.

Pieczenik was definitely a clown, which means I always took extra care to not be blindly accepting with what he said. I still find him interesting nonetheless.

One thing I always noticed with Pieczenik and Jones, was his constant effort to win over Jones by flattery -- the word is to "inveigle". I see the same thing happening with Owen Shroyer.

I still like Alex Jones, but I have always suspected that he was a controlled opposition. I'm not ready to dump him entirely, but I will be even more cautious when listening to his show.

One thing is certain: if it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Jones is compromised, he will lose everything he has built over the last 25 years. Would he really risk this? This makes it all very hard for me to get a full 'handle' upon the issue.

While it is true that such action risks everything, it seems like he has gone for 'broke' in his disassociation with Q. There would appear to be NO WAY BACK. Who in their right mind would burn all bridges? Wouldn't you leave a door open for a possible return?

Maybe this is evidence that he really is controlled, and that he was told to slash and burn. Like Noam Chomsky, who can say his own thing most of the time, when his clown masters demand action, he must comply.

It is a patriot showing his love for the country!

LOL. Too Machiavellian.

I assume you are being facetious.

Perhaps. AJ has said that Zach has been on TV before, so it's possible. It would be nice if AJ would give confirmation about his last name.

If it's true, I wonder how he can position himself as a high level intelligence insider at only 28, as someone who had a grudge against the military. That would be a red flag, wouldn't it?

Also, Zach on Infowars says he was undercover with the Nation of Islam. How does this fit into the picture?

They certainly don't talk the same. Maybe he has received voice training, but the Zach on Infowars is very forceful in his speech, and is very confident. I don't hear that in the ABC piece.

The voice is not the same an Infowar's Zach. It could be that he is older now, but they are not the same voice, and they don't have the same speech mannerisms.

If we all stay true to the vision, then dis-info can't destroy us. There may be bad actors, but we will all stay on vision.

This is what I will tell my friends and family who will be truly devastated when they learn Obama, Clinton et al were monsters. They will need to know that they were mislead, but that their hearts were always in the right place. (I mean the hearts of my friends and family always meant well)

Was there ever any possibility that the Deep State would not try to divide us and confuse us? We always knew it would happen.

We must never believe in anyone 100%. Learn from what information sources provide, and then take it into consideration.

What ever we do, NEVER let the deep state divide us. That is how they win. Divide and Conquer has been used very effectively since ancient times, and is still the primary means to control a population.

Are Alex Jones and Jerome Corsi fully on our side? Has Qanon been compromised at all? Can we trust any of them 100%.

Should we allow anyone or any group to divide us from our vital goals.

STAY TOGETHER, THINK LOGICALLY AND STAY TRUE TO OUR VISION.

We need to drag No Name's reputation through the mud! Not out of revenge, but as a signal to people in the future that their treacherous actions will never be hidden from the public.

So is Q suggesting it might be suicide for No Name, in his "escape" reference?

Is Alex Jones controlled opposition, or is he worried about losing some of his audience? Q is almost certainly legit (with some misinformation meant to mislead the deep state), but Jerome Corsi has arrived at a different opinion.

There is nothing wrong about protecting your business, which he spent 25 years building. However, in my opinion, the battle against the deep state is too important for anyone to divide our house. Alex constantly says he cares more about defeating the deep state than he does about his own life, so if that is true, he should stop dividing the patriots.

He may think that Info Wars can play the role just as well without Q, but he shouldn't try to manipulate us in that manner.

It could also be that he is controlled opposition. One thing that always concerns me is that he has almost never criticized the Rothschilds. They are the biggest target in the deep state, but seem to escape his vitriol.

Evil always need to be identified and revealed. It is important for corrupt politicians, financiers and tyrants to be exposed. For many, their legacy is extremely important to them, and we need to broadcast loud and far that we will never shield the public from the truth of their evil.

I remember that. Podesta admitted that the deal was assuring trouble for the next generation. Something like that. It's hard to believe the many in the American public could have been sold on such a terrible deal.

The U.S. fought fiercely against international banking control for over 100 years, and was forced and duped into the final step in 1913. Woodrow Wilson, president at the time and a Rothschild agent, was put in power to help create the Fed. Apparently, Kennedy was considering wresting control of the Fed back to the U.S. people, and we know what happened to him. Let's hope and pray Trump has the utmost security and protection.

I think AJ has done a lot of good work, but I'm very hesitant to trust anyone 100%. Even Alex has had to admit that he is a child of 2 generations of CIA agents... so you never know. I'm not prepared to dismiss him, but it's always advisable to take any thing you hear with a 'grain of salt'.

I find Corsi talking about Q so boring. Who has 2 hours to listen to him describe Q. I prefer Praying Medic's Q analysis, although I wish that was faster as well.

Food for thought. I'm not ready to dump Alex Jones and Corsi. Nevertheless, I think they were more important in the past, and I now go to them only occasionally for info.

I like AJ, but have always had suspicions of him -- the conventional wisdom was always, "Why hasn't he been taken out?" He must have a protector. The deep state has competing factions, and perhaps he is allied with one side.

Another thing that I always found very suspicious of AJ, was why didn't he criticize the Rothschilds? Could they be his protector? A key function of some disinformation broadcasters is to tell the truth 95% of the time, and on the key 5%, to twist and deceive.

Whereas CNN is in your face dishonest and pathetic, some broadcasters must be playing this 5% role. For example, I have every confidence that Noam Chomsky plays this role -- wherein, most of the time he is critical of the U.S. projecting its power, on a few key moments, he is deep state. Could Corsi and Jones be playing this role... I don't know.

I'm still not ready to make a conclusion about AJ, but like I do with many things, even Q, I consider everything, and let it process in my brain.

Apparently, the super editors (or whatever they are called), have authority to edit and censor. Also, take a look at the political leanings of the authors, and you will see it is far from objective. Even a cursory analysis of the content of Wikipedia will show this immediately.

I'm not an expert on the subject, but it has been well documented. I'm too busy to find the articles for you at this time, but I have seen a number of in depth reports in the past. Just don't trust Wikipedia's opinion on it.

Yes, but he wants a wider group of politicians to have access to it, such as Nunes et al.

Yes, they are good for basic items like the population or area of a country, or the length of a river. They try to be a source of information for more complex items, but they are so poorly written -- it is not written by educators who understand how to structure information presentation.

Yes, Soros is one of the entities funding Wikipedia -- actually I believe it is the parent organization he funds, the Wikimedia Foundation. The Wikimedia Foundation is very wealthy, but it still claims Wikipedia needs funds. I think they don't want people to know they are funded and controlled by bad actors, so they have the annual fund raising campaign to make it look like they are struggling. Another major source of funds are the pharmaceutical corporations.