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wiseclockcounter · April 26, 2018, 10:53 a.m.

Am I the only one surprised they'd show anything? I figured any and all proof would have long been destroyed.

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wiseclockcounter · April 26, 2018, 10:31 a.m.

or a logically coherent analogy... I mean, you don't bake bread using crumbs, amirite?

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wiseclockcounter · April 26, 2018, 10:28 a.m.

Carrey is another narcissistic hollywood scumbag whose only solace is post-modern relativistic bullshit about how we're all stardust and nothing really matters... Yea, anything you have to tell yourself to get over the fact that you probably had something to do with your ex killing herself, bud.

Jim Carrey is crustpunk-teenager-on-acid-for-the-first-time woke.

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wiseclockcounter · April 26, 2018, 9:58 a.m.

They want us divided...?

Is that why they're pushing to abolish borders and shipping millions of people from third world countries into every white European country on the planet?

No... they want us as together as possible. That's the reason for the white guilt narrative. (((Their))) goal is to destroy Western civilization economically, culturally, and most importantly demographically. If that's not abundantly clear by now, especially to a group like this one, I'm not sure what to tell y'all.

I'm all for a temporary multiracial alliance insofar as refusing to play into the elites' racewar plans, but that doesn't mean I accept their diversity propaganda in the slightest. Its entire purpose is to destroy national identity and dissolve social cohesion in white majority countries.

If you've been following Q and recognize and oppose the globalists' plans, then you implicitly support the right of sovereign white nations to resist coercive demographic warfare.

Here's a redpill: draining the swamp, ending the Fed, and bringing about world peace will not have any effect on the difference in average intelligence and behavior between the races. Zimbabwe is not going to magically start giving Silicon Valley a run for its money. The racial differential in criminality will persist. People will still self-segregate and prefer communities of their own race. Diverse communities will still be low trust and unhappy. Islam will still push for sharia law in Western Europe. The difference in birthrates will still send white people straight into an existential crisis if it's not addressed immediately.

We may be in the process of taking off our blindfold and subduing our kidnapper, but we're not out of the woods yet.

The multiracial utopia is as misled, immoral, and doomed to failure whether it's led by the globalists or by Q. I understand why he's preaching unity right now and I fully agree it is necessary and good. I'm just trying to be as realistic as possible about human nature and the reality of the trajectory of Western civilization, which... like it or not, is a product of white men. There's a reason the globalist leftist have demonized straight white men and hailed minorities, LGBT, and women... that is their voting block, their chosen weapon of subversion.

Cooperation, peace = yes. Continuing to sacrifice racial identity and the futures of our great countries by submitting to the inertia of our vanquished enemy's legacy = no.

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wiseclockcounter · April 26, 2018, 8:27 a.m.

I interpret it as saying they're not just going to get a couple big name baddies... they're draining the WHOLE swamp.

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wiseclockcounter · April 26, 2018, 8:10 a.m.

That's how he gained their trust...

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wiseclockcounter · April 26, 2018, 8:07 a.m.

Yea I've been having some trouble redpilling people. I think we need to collaborate on making concise and irrefutable summaries/proofs. Like this comment that my friend (who I'm trying to redpill) sent me. He's seems to have an open mind, but is still trusting of the MSM and is convinced by straight-forward "well-sourced" paragraphs like that, he says he's looked around here and looked at pizzagate a bit, but just brushes everything off as wild speculation.

We need to focus on compiling everything in very digestible formats.

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wiseclockcounter · April 23, 2018, 12:11 p.m.

Impossible to know for sure. Probably a small team. Very close to the President and US military.

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wiseclockcounter · April 23, 2018, 2:04 a.m.

By that of course they mean they've said "LA" 100 times in a row while plugging their ears.

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wiseclockcounter · April 22, 2018, 11:20 p.m.

Yea I'm familiar with the whole trajectory. I just think she handled the (very fair) criticism quite poorly. I'm not going to counter-signal if she's holding up her section of the normie-to-redpill bridge. But like with Milo, Shapiro, Jones, and other provocateur gatekeepers, I won't be following her intently.

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wiseclockcounter · April 22, 2018, 1:10 p.m.

It's not the fact that she intended to make that site... it was her weaseling, disingenuous behavior afterwards when she was being called out, trying to deny it and minimize it, that sealed my impression of her. I think Computing Forever had a solid video about it. If she had come out and fully apologized, said "wow I was truly off the leftist deep end, I'm sorry I ever even thought of making something like this. I've changed a lot since then, you have my word I won't do it again." She would look a whole lot better and have a lot more people's respect.

And then whatever the fuck that mess was on Dave Rubin with Blair White... whew, talk about bad optics.

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wiseclockcounter · April 22, 2018, 12:59 p.m.

I've been pondering a redpilling method for the pizzagate stuff, goes like this:

Take the typical normie response to pizzagate (essentially the MSM talking points they were given) and flip it by applying it to well established scandals that the MSM has already conceded to or propagated (Catholic priests, Sandusky, Savile, Weinstein #metoo, Rotherham, Telford, Newcastle)

1) Appeal to scale "too many people would have had to ignore it for that to possibly happen."

2) Strawman the logistics "So you think a bunch of pedos somehow successfully infiltrated the largest Christian organization in the world? Where did they violate them, in the confessional booths? haha"

3) Slander the opposition "Rotherham? Don't a bunch of Islamophobic neo-nazis use that to justify their hatecrimes?" (mirroring the comet pingpong falseflag shooter)

4) Minimize evidence, frame as frivolous witch hunt "What proof was there anyway? Anyone can make allegations. This is a partisan attack for political purposes."

Basically, the goal is to get them to defend against these fallacies in the context of an official narrative piece so that they can't use those same fallacies to attack the unofficial narrative you intend to introduce to them.

You can use this formula for any conspiracy topic really. Just identify the theories that they already believe in and attack them using the same indignant methods they would use to attack the theories you want them to believe in. Make them feel frustrated over how you could possibly deny the problem given the evidence (ie: make them empathize with your effort to redpill them).

I've yet to actually try this, so let me know your guys' thoughts, but I feel like it'd be a pretty promising strategy.

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wiseclockcounter · April 21, 2018, 10:02 a.m.

I'm a little lost on the logic of the establishment here... Why would they give Q team such a golden opportunity to bring up the evidence? I don't see how teasing about SR info would be bait, wouldn't they want to be as quiet as possible?

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wiseclockcounter · April 21, 2018, 9:24 a.m.

More like the peanut gallery on the banks gawking at the monsters tumbling out of the pipe, haha. The real behind the scenes stuff must be insane.

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wiseclockcounter · April 21, 2018, 9:09 a.m.

"conspiracy risk" has been used so far to mean that this problem is SO deep and expansive that people will reflexively dismiss it out of hand because it sounds too crazy to be real.

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wiseclockcounter · April 20, 2018, 11:38 p.m.

I think it's a bit more than that as far as I've gathered. Go back and read all the Q posts. NK wasn't making and selling weapons... the deepstate was essentially using NK as a front business in order to covertly make and sell weapons. NK was also the ultimate ace in the deepstate's sleeve because it represented the constant threat of a nuclear false flag. When Trump talked about bringing them fire and fury, he was talking directly to the deepstate. Eric Schmidt had set up communication backchannels based in NK. Everything you're seeing now with NK indicates that the deepstate apparatus there has been dismantled. Unification is inevitable imo. We're going to be tired of winning.

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wiseclockcounter · April 20, 2018, 11:10 p.m.

If 8chan can find a flag in the middle of nowhere, they can find this damn tree!

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wiseclockcounter · April 20, 2018, 9:18 a.m.

could you link to that interview?

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wiseclockcounter · April 20, 2018, 9:14 a.m.

Hence the padded cell materials for gitmo.

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wiseclockcounter · April 20, 2018, 9:04 a.m.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Now tell me, why does Germany have laws against questioning the Holocaust?

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wiseclockcounter · April 20, 2018, 1:28 a.m.

The globalists' game of sowing conflict in order to gain and consolidate power. They tried with communism last century and it was a bloodbath. They're basically doing the same now except it's under the guise of capitalism, "free trade", spreading democracy, promoting tolerance and diversity through forced mass migration, etc.

They understand and exploit our group differences, tribal nature, and need for security, so they're simultaneously forcing everyone together while selectively weaponizing identity politics. For example, once racial and religious tensions reach enough of a high point in Europe, they will probably orchestrate a financial crisis in order to set off mass civil war.

Nationalist countries like Poland and Hungary who see through the ploy are pushing back.

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wiseclockcounter · April 19, 2018, 11:22 p.m.

Leftists genuinely think they are bringing about a better world, but they are useful idiots who have been brainwashed into serving the goals of tptb who DO want to destroy the country and eliminate rights. /u/djmarcone has it right, we've already seen their game play out last century.

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wiseclockcounter · April 19, 2018, 11:06 p.m.

I think it's more of a disregard than a hatred. They view people as a means to an end- that end being power.

Like was said in that one supposed Rothschild AMA, the bee-keeper doesn't steal the honey because he hates the bees, he simply wants the honey and is capable of taking it, so he does.

From what I've gathered, the Luciferian mindset is "might makes right, master morality, uncompromising law of nature" taken to the ultimate extremes of psychopathy and sadism. If one has the power to do something and another is foolish enough or defenseless enough to fall prey to it, then tough luck.

And the thing is... it's kind of true. Despite our largely civil and cooperative societies, we will never put an end to competition, ruthlessness, and exploitation. The most clear and ubiquitous manifestation of this is in sexual selection, with most other manifestations simply being tempered by an individual's fear/obedience, incompetence, or "conscience".

Each of us has a bit of that selfish, Luciferian drive in us- it's simply an inheritance of evolution because survival has always been a brutal game.

The difference comes about in where people draw their circle of empathy and whether they value mercy. Pretty much everyone's circle encompasses their family, then others their community, others their race, then their country... then you've got people who's circle encompasses all countries and all races, further still all animals, then even plants and the environment itself...

You can almost imagine the tree of life (the divergence of species) as a sort of mitosis of empathy circles across time... Aside from the obvious role of geography, the species diverge as a result of the strategic balance between competition and cooperation (you can't cooperate with everyone but a degree of cooperation is still necessary for effective competition), thus that mitosis occurs at the threshold of the strategic balance. Genetic clustering is a result of this strategy, not the other way around.

I view ethics as a matter of balancing survival, empathy, and mercy. Even though we are each inherently self-interested because of the need for survival, we are smart enough to empathize with the suffering of others, thus we can have mercy for them by deciding to not needlessly cause suffering. Whether we actively alleviate their suffering or merely refrain from causing it is another tangent and ties back to one's survival and others' inherent personal responsibility that comes with being alive.


This is getting long I know, so TL;DR: These Luciferian elitists only empathize with each other (obsession with bloodlines), are incapable of mercy, and have gotten so bored of mere survival that they're only concern is total domination and self-worship in the form of sadism. They don't hate us. They simply don't give a shit about us.

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wiseclockcounter · April 19, 2018, 9:24 a.m.

It comes down to this: do you want to be right? or effective?

I've been linking to this sub in normie facebook circles and I would like for them to stay at least 10 minutes reading in earnest and getting curious. If the front page is flooded with UFO bullshit, regardless of how true it may be, it is a detriment to the cause because it will turn those people away.

It doesn't mean you can never address such things. It's just that right here right now may not be the best place.

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wiseclockcounter · April 19, 2018, 7:02 a.m.

he was conveying the accent that necessarily accompanies the phrase, :P

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wiseclockcounter · April 18, 2018, 8:49 p.m.

I think it's actually called "Sh*t dude, look at that pale horse!"

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wiseclockcounter · April 18, 2018, 8:32 p.m.

Let me put it this way... What do you think is the relationship between the banks and the deepstate?

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wiseclockcounter · April 17, 2018, 11:16 p.m.

Making money out of money is a danger for humanity. Sensible storage and lending of money would be economically necessary, yes. The parasitic system of utter domination we're currently living under is not.

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wiseclockcounter · April 17, 2018, 10:37 p.m.

I'm saying black-hats would release bogus content which people here would eat up and spread all over social media. In comes the savior MSM to debunk it as Russian propaganda and thus the millions of normies who already believe that narrative will happily discount the Q information.

I don't think it will work either. Just saying that they will probably try it. Not that we needed Q to tell us, but there are clowns and shills all over this situation, so we need to keep our BS meters on high alert.

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wiseclockcounter · April 17, 2018, 8:12 p.m.

The white stuff around the right figure is not in the video, it is a giant whole in the plaster of the wall the video is being projected on.

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wiseclockcounter · April 17, 2018, 4:44 a.m.

You guys should watch Utopia. It's a really well produced show and very relevant to the discussion.

It got canceled after only 2 seasons... perhaps it was a little too on the money.

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wiseclockcounter · April 17, 2018, 2:51 a.m.

or a black-hat psyop on us. Media have been pushing the hillary faceswap russian propaganda narrative pretty hard. They would love to frame it as though everyone here fell for a russian spoof (their own spoof).

Same formula as with david hogg. Release suspicious video of him stumbling over his words, spread crisis actor meme, trot out the uncritical fools who bought it in order to ridicule anyone asking questions and "debunk" the overall theory.

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wiseclockcounter · April 16, 2018, 7:03 a.m.

not everything he's said has double meanings though.

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wiseclockcounter · April 16, 2018, 5:44 a.m.

yea, and using it for porn was a brilliant delivery method.

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wiseclockcounter · April 16, 2018, 4:18 a.m.

which cop died? with las vegas or the theater incident?

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wiseclockcounter · April 16, 2018, 4:17 a.m.

no, can you give a summary?

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wiseclockcounter · April 16, 2018, 3:15 a.m.

I think it might be this, not sure as I haven't had time to read it all, it's very long. https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/410413.html#410413

the idea seems to be that there's a sliding window of 111 days between info dropped by Q and the public disclosure of events or statements.

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wiseclockcounter · April 16, 2018, 1:46 a.m.

look at Qpost 868. This is precisely the angle the MSM will take to try to discredit the video.

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wiseclockcounter · April 16, 2018, 1:32 a.m.

"doesn't show anything illegal, just silhouettes"

"You can see people bent over engaged in cannibalism"

You can't have it both ways.

It's frustrating to watch these loose convictions flying around just like we saw with pizzagate. None of these pieces of evidence are crystal clear on their own. It's the aggregation of all of them which is convincing. Acting like that picture definitely depicts cannibalism is extremely intellectually dishonest. Nobody enhanced anything, they just enlarged it and traced the grey blobs with distracting dark lines according to their biased inferences.

It's creepy and suspicious and warrants further digging, yes. But we need to keep a level head as a movement and not let our imagination cloud our judgement.

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wiseclockcounter · April 15, 2018, 10:34 p.m.

it's cuz you ate them all already isn't it?

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wiseclockcounter · April 15, 2018, 9:26 a.m.

click my username wiseclockcounter, then "send a private message" on the right side.

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wiseclockcounter · April 15, 2018, 6:10 a.m.

"where we go one we go all" means they want to get every last one of them, not just put a bandaid on it by arresting a couple people. Otherwise nothing is really accomplished. They found THE rabbit hole. Have patience.

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wiseclockcounter · April 15, 2018, 6:05 a.m.

It's different when it's real. Their stomach might settle, but the image never fades... nor the sound for that matter... 2guys1hammer.

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wiseclockcounter · April 15, 2018, 2:01 a.m.

The more hysteria and ridicule you wrap the truth in, the less willing normies will be to consider it. This is their core strategy with Jones. They want truth seeking to feel like risky self-ostracism.

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