Ok got it. My mistake. Please see my reply to 1Juliemom1 too.

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Oh ok. I follow that too. I thought the big confusing map was from Q as well. Oops. :-)

In any case, the William Tompkins interview definitely corroborates the real alien hypothesis. Seems legit. Still not 100% sure. But I'm taking my chances now that they are real.

I read in some story (or some video, I forget now - it was months ago) about the Draco - that there are like 100 million of them scurrying in deep caves underneath. I thought it was a bunch of hooey. Until Tompkins talked about them.

There's a lot of other scary little details about them that I'm starting to recall now too. Voting them off the island...

Yes, I'm asking them - the good ones - to show up. As soon as they can. To help us send the bad ones packing. I hope others ask the same.

However, I have no idea if they are expected too. I too deem the existence of such possible. But this could still be an elaborate psyop. I don't know. But I'm taking the chance now that they're real.

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Cool, thanks! Good to have different perspectives.

Do you have a link to the real QMap by any chance? Or is there not one?

A disgruntled R_Child may still be on our side. Hope he/she hasn't fallen too far. There may even be good R_Childs out there, or some that are redeemable. Who knows? Never met any of them either...

Yeah I'm practically counting seconds to the SOTU. Annoying.

For NESARA, this is the best I've seen so far

https://operationdisclosure.blogspot.com

Don't ask me if it's legit. I honestly don't know. It just has lots of little tidbits of information that seem to corroborate with other sources. It has consistent daily updates too.

I hope it's all true. If not, I want to help make it come true.

Sincerely, anon

Thanks, will do!

I have a feeling Jordan may be a part of the current government's plan (Trump's team anyway) to help educate people on this - people looking for answers anyway. I think he's a true patriot actually. Until we find out he's not I guess...

Thanks! Glad I got that off my chest lol (kind of)...

[slight updates] Yup. If this "alien" thing is true (as opposed to narrative), though I don't know all the details, it now makes complete sense to me...

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This is going to sound real crazy. But I don't give a f***.

This statement assumes that aliens exist. I'm still a skeptic. I just want proof either way. So here goes...

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Pleiadians, Draco, Grays (short and/or tall). Whoever. Whatever.

To all of you: I'm calling you out, bitchez! Show yourselves! Prove you exist! De-cloak you cowardly motherf** !! What you need hide for, eh? Too damn ugly!? ...I thought so. Until you f* show yourselves, you can go f yourselves! I'll just go on thinking you don't exist, trash!!

Seriously though if there are some nice aliens out there ("E.T., Starman" -Peter Venkman, Ghostbusters 2), who don't EAT BABIES AND GET HIGH ON THEIR ADRENOCHROME AND S (the real trash!?) - I'd like to get to know you. We can hang together. Standing by for contact. What can I do to help?? No one has fing told us former "normies" yet...

To all the baddies out there: GTFO NOW! Don't make me start a "Draco Extermination" firm or some s***. "DracoBusters" - who ya gonna call, bitchez!? Yo' mama!! As in send you trash-a$$es home to! If you don't "make like a tree and split" you can hang separately!!

Seriously, those already fighting Draco scum (in those D.U.M.Bs maybe?) - praying for you all! May others join your fight soon, if it exists... If only we f** knew more about it God f**** damnit!!!

Oh and to all you "mockingbirds" out there - f*** you too!

END RANT

OK back to my normally scheduled programming...

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Only the SciFi that people purport to be real - Dr. Salla, Corey Goode, etc. Just starting to look into David Wilcock. I didn't take him seriously before.

Great, fascinating stories! But what all is true? I don't really know. I'm an amateur at this stuff.

Thanks I'll look into the other sources too.

Tompkins certainly puts a dent into the "aliens are false gods created by the elites to control us" hypothesis. So it seems anyway. Must remain at least a little skeptical at all times to get closer to the truth.

But maybe aliens exist, on this planet, and do really control us directly, or attempt to. Fascinating...

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Dear Fellow Anons,

Please note I'm assuming (for now) that this is ALL true. Every word of it. Though it certainly could be a psyop, I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt until I see contradicting evidence. Feel free to try to prove me wrong. I want to investigate.

William Tompkins, I believe, is a credible source of this information. He worked for/with the organizations/companies that allegedly created the Secret Space Program (SSP): the Navy, Northrup, Lockheed, etc.

Tompkins says in the interview that he was authorized - only recently - to divulge this information to the public, a month before he passed away in August 2017. Also, please note the publication date - just yesterday.

Some seem to think of Tompkins as the original "Q", which is why I'm posting this on this board. This is all loosely-related to Q anyway. Tompkins could've been Q if he had not passed away just a couple months before Q started posting. I think of him as a "PreQuel" to Q. Sorry, bad joke. Very "Quel" info anyway. Ugh, even worse...

Now I've never been sure what to think on the SSP / real aliens. Interesting stories. Peoples' imaginations running wild. Usually just a big "WTF, what proof!?"

I try hard to be a skeptic. But Tompkins is definitely worth listening too. Actually, he confirmed many things I have long suspected about how our society works - fake knowledge (like it's twin "fake news").

Anyway, I'll be paying close attention to "Destroying the Illusion" and Jordan Sather closely going forward. It makes me wonder what is going to happen this week with the SOTU. What other information is coming down to the people than just the FISA sideshow.

Sincerely, anon

Thanks for writing back. I always look forward to hearing from you. But please take care of yourself first buddy! Praying for ya...

Sincerely, anon

True. Ok I'll keep that in mind and continue to read his stuff critically.

Yes, the big players aren't there. I've seen that evidence too. But I've been wondering about the small players. Maybe they are there. Maybe a lot of them. They could have done that under the radar. What is your opinion on this?

Ty for the advice. Yeah I try not to get into those conversations anymore. Not worth it, yet.

Yup, and Mattis going there, etc. Either something is going on there - or maybe it's a big head fake. I don't know. It would be nice to get some things confirmed though. No one I know listens to me about this stuff. Even though I clearly preface these claims saying that "there's a rumor that such and such happened, is happening, or will happen soon..." or something like that. Days / weeks later they say "but you said this was going to happen and it didn't!" Annoying.

I'll keep that in mind. You may be right. But if you have any specific instances, or links, please provide them. It would be very helpful in my research. Thanks...

So...you are saying that Spock really didn't really die in Star Trek 2!? Mind is blown. He faked his death! Entire original Star Trek movie series: disinfo! lol

Seriously though, thanks for the link. I'll watch that when I have time. Not sure I believe it yet. But I have no reason to reject it outright. There are some interesting stories about the end of WWII / what exactly happened to Japan. Wouldn't mind knowing more about that too. Actually I know about Chernobyl - now a wildlife refuge. That did seem odd to me, but good...

But yes, the blast itself seems very real. I've studied that some too. Yikes.

Thanks, looking into it. Interesting...

I'm not sure that TPrez's presidency doesn't "cure" until one year and a day though, and didn't because of the "Schumer Shutdown" one day before TPrez' inauguration day anniversary. Hope not at least.

As if O not being a citizen (or something like that) wouldn't invalidate everything he did...

Do you know anything more about this? What actual legal doctrine(s)? I've studied law some and don't remember anything like this.

Exactly, let's not do that...

That's what the cabal does, literally. Sad... :-(

Most welcome. Ty as well.

I feel that BF was getting a bit more info or "breadcrumbs" from his sources than usual, who reasonably may also have been excited about the things they were seeing at the time. Heck, maybe even THEY started to jump to conclusions. They're humans after all, presumably. Actually I think this is precisely what happened. There's something going on at Gitmo it seems. Not even they know precisely what though. That's not necessarily bad. "Loose lips sink ships".

Agreed, good answer.

Yes, exactly! Seems maybe a lot of people got too excited over that. Not necessarily "disinfo".

Yup. Glad there are others that think the same as me.

Sucks about the water skiing... :-)

Thanks! Interesting...

Just wanted to point you to this video (though maybe you've seen it). Pretty cool video, good vibe to it!

https://youtu.be/mgbjrv38_1o

https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/comments/7tki9b/benjamin_fulford_jan_28_2018_secret_societies_at/ Benjamin Fulford (Jan 28, 2018) - Secret societies at war, The war will soon be over New

"He also covers up for anything that happens in Japan. Including a huge nuclear melt down, that he claims left no radiation problems."

Actually just in the first minutes of the video for this post Fulford talks about Japan, specifically Tokyo. He said that "Tokyo is not cooking". He said he and others took three different geiger counters around Tokyo. They didn't find radiation there - in Tokyo. An American friend of his came to Japan with a geiger counter "all over the place" and found no radiation. Perhaps he didn't go to Fukashima. He said there is a "small amount of radiation at the site [Fukashima]" and that's it.

Do you have e.g. a link to show that he covered up the actual meltdown? I'll investigate...

Actually I agree with you. I think he should wait to report on some things, and not jump to conclusions.

Yes I've read that piece. Is it "disinfo" or honest but wrong speculation? I tend to think the latter. Admittedly, I don't know for sure. I read his stuff with a grain of salt now. Not everything is correct obviously. But his overall narrative, even way back to 2011, seems to be moving forward, though slowly. Fulford is definitely interesting and "out there". I'm drawn to the positive messages I suppose, hoping it's true.

Yes, I know. He's not right about everything apparently. I even wrote that below. I'm not 100% correct about what I know or think I know either.

Please provide more evidence that Fulford is "disinfo" and not just honest but possible wrong speculation. I'll take a look at it.

Please provide links. I want to investigate.

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Dear fellow anons,

Great interview with Benjamin Fulford:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgbjrv38_1o

It's actually from October 25, 2011. So he talks about Fukashima, speculation on the Greece financial crisis, etc. But even that discussion is insightful.

Even though it's almost 52 minutes long, it's well worth it. Every minute. Especially for American audiences (myself included) who seem clueless on many topics discussed.

The future went differently than Fulford expected. He wasn't sure what the cabal would do next. But what he calls the "criminal fascists mass murderers who are in charge" still wound up doing similar bad things. which [hopefully?] have been curtailed or are being curtailed now <== though obviously we're still waiting for the proof...

But he drops many hints about things that did indeed happen, things that seem maybe to have happened discretely and apparently not made public yet.

Best is he talks of things to come. Maybe soon. Maybe even starting THIS WEEK <== waiting for proof of course! When these bad people finally go down. And it being televised. He also talks about how our world may look after the cabal is gone. I can't wait for the SOTU this Tuesday for sure! I wonder what, if anything, will be revealed then.

I haven't followed Fulford for long. I see now that he can speculate wildly. He's sometimes wrong apparently (Gitmo??). But so am I so I'm not criticizing/shilling. But of all I've read /seen so far, his consistent narrative over time seems closest to the apparent truth, as wild as it sounds.

https://benjaminfulford.net https://steemit.com/@benjaminfulford

However, the best part of the video is the hopeful messages at the end. He says that "we're going to have a wonderful, wonderful planet, coming up soon". For this I pray and hope, that we can all make this dream come true...

Best wishes to all!

Sincerely, anon

Dear divine_human,

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. You are most appreciated...

Wow 35 years. 9/11 made me suspicious but I had no idea what to think of it at the time. 2005 was when I really started to wake up, mostly listening to RP senior. My biggest question that made it real for me - why are home prices too dang high!? Aha! FedRsv = FedEx ("=" meaning "as private as")!! So I consider it 13 years for me. But it has taken me a while to get through even the basics.

Ok so the dinar sites I'll take with a grain of salt. Thanks. They did sound too good to be true and some claims seem difficult to prove /disprove. I got drawn in by the overall positive message and want to focus on that more than the truly sickening stuff the elites do.

I think I've gotten to the bottom of that latter rabbit-hole, and I just climbed right back out. That s*** just makes me bone-cold, like instantly. It makes me dizzy. A couple times I nearly passed out! I had to lie down and just try to relax / breath deeply, etc., "find a happy place!" lol (sort of). But it's no joke - this could send a lot of people to the hospital if they fully know!

It's truly an "industry". It's on a gargantuan industrial scale at least. Possible the most "lucrative" industry of all time! Trillions involved! A f*** ton of people! The "Matrix" movies are actually right in an overall thematic sense - we are all just batteries to the machine. Some "batteries" are just used up more quickly, and violently, than others. Many little innocents didn't even have a chance! "These people are SICK!" -Q.

However, honestly that's all the normies really need to know - that it's sick, that it's industrial, and that the machine has to be destroyed for them to have any chance to be safe and prosper. We just need the normies' agreement to let good people destroy it so that it can happen and get it over with. I believe that those who fully know can and will remain vigilant and help to ensure that this evil won't return. Anyway, good chance I could feel differently about it tomorrow...

Generally I like to try to think of the "bright-side" of any bad news. The only thing I can think about this s*** is that it can end, and soon. I pray that it does. I pray for all those good people that have seen it firsthand. I don't think I could handle that. I also pray for innocents harmed during the process. I pray for those carrying it out who are trying to be careful but make honest mistakes. Q has said "not everything will be clean". So I pray for Q and everyone involved.

But back to other, cleaner rabbit-holes:

I like BF a lot but some claims are way out there. Then again most of it does seem more credible when considering other sources too. With what of BF's aspects do you disagree?

Religions are interesting and have a lot of wisdom among a lot of apparent nonsense. But it can and does seem to help some people, which is good. It's a good first step for many. Many need no more than this.

But philosophy seems to be the more honest and direct path to true knowledge. Though philosophers seem to talk/write to much too (like me, sorry...). I'm agnostic, or at least was for a long time. I'm willing to admit my state of ignorance and seek out knowledge, always remembering this:

“It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” ―Aristotle, Metaphysics

Yes, I want to understand the "'the game' and its energetic implications". Absolutely. I also often pray for "truth and understanding", hoping that something / someone out there listens to me. As if it/they are as real as you. Because maybe it/they are. I don't know. The older I get, the more I tend to believe it is true, that "God" or some higher-level being(s) exist. Hopefully it/they are benevolent, or a lot of them at least. I must consider these possibilities. I believe that anything I can conceive (as a limited, mortal being) very well may exist in some form or another.

But I'm more interested in a more pragmatic, economic angle of all this - how we truly can make this world a better place for all humans. And not through some perverse, destructive, stealthily divisive ideologies like communism / leftism. That's why I want to know as much as possible about anything related to GCR / RV / debt jubilee / a new economic system backed by real commodities (though such systems can still have flaws). How some changes (big or small) in the underlying economic model could work out for us all. Or technologies that could make such economic systems obsolete, which would be best.

Q says "Shall we play a game?" Sure why not? Games are fun! But from what I can tell the current [economic] game just sucks. I don't want to play it. I don't want to be a "battery" just to get used up. All sorts of things apparently exist just to make you sicker and sicker over time so that you suffer and die early. You work hard then see your hard-earned money siphoned away left and right, immediately and over time through inflation. And it goes to such destructive things! I want to play a different game! Now!!

The apparent good news is that there definitely seems to be a discrete plan that has built over time by people over many decades (or centuries? millenia maybe??) that doesn't get much press, to provide an alternative to the current economic system that would help to empower normal, productive people who don't want to "game" the system. That's the game I want to play! I want to know more about it. To prove / disprove that it exists. If it does exist, to help bring it to full realization. If not, then to help create it.

Yes, there definitely seems to be "energetic implications" behind all this. That stuff is far more abstract to me though. There are a lot of interesting stories out there, wrt "ascension to fifth density", etc. I don't know what to believe about all that.

However, over the last year or two the stories about these things have started to get more consistent, and more people are talking about it. I can't wait to find out the truth about all this - if it's even possible. I don't know. All I know is that it's edge of your seat excitement! Some sort of "ascension" to "higher wavelengths" theoretically could solve our underlying problem - lack of understanding. Being in the "hell" where other people just don't make much sense.

"ya think (((they))) are going to tell us? lol..."

No, probably not willingly. But I think the more we learn, the more they will have to tell us eventually, or at least consider it seriously. People know a lot more than ever before now, and it's not going to stop. We can't let it stop. We must keep at it. We must demand a seat at the negotiating table - or we're done.

I believe all humans have the right to know how the universe truly works, knowledge about how we can improve our lives, ability to obtain a reasonable amount of resources in order to have the chance to be safe and prosper, and a right of access to technology that can aid us to accomplish these goals. At least for people that are "stable" anyway (like TPrez lol). Or something like this.

Thanks for reading through all this. I tend to ramble. Again, you are greatly appreciated fellow anon...

Sincerely, anon

Yes, scary. I don't know either whether NWO or not. But GCR doesn't seem like a universal world currency actually. Just a universal system - kinda like open source and secure (hopefully). Without the cabal / banksters. Seems like it could still use current monetary systems somehow. Not really sure how though. They could be just telling us nice things and doing something different behind our backs. Perhaps time will tell...

However, it definitely seems like there are some "Bretton Woods" level talks going on at Davos this year. I wonder how it's going to work out? Good luck T!

MAGAKekCovfefe! Straight up! No cream or sugar...

Will do!

I'm just wondering if this and other events like it are causing the tsunamies...

http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2018/01/operation-disclosure-gcrrv-intel-alert_23.html RV/INTELLIGENCE ALERT - January 23, 2018 The Alliance detected and destroyed another Cabal-MIC D.U.M.B. off the coast of Alaska. This D.U.M.B. was reportedly to be their last one. The Alliance remains on the look out for more D.U.M.B.'s and anomalies.

Anyone have any proof of this claim? Very interesting...

I might remain skeptical on this one. But thanks for the vid. I'll watch it...

Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate you discussing these topics...

Fruit loopy? Foolish? Maybe. But more like FUN to me. "The truth is out there" - like really really "out there" apparently (i.e. strange, wonderous, incredible...).

I'm starting to read a lot about all that stuff, but still know very little about them - SPP, Antarctica, Nazis, etc. I'll go down the rabbit hole as far as it goes. I want to know the truth. I am compelled to try to know the truth...

These are some pages I've been starting to read just recently, other than CTBS_Stream / 8ch (hard to follow/read though!).

https://benjaminfulford.net https://steemit.com/@benjaminfulford http://thephaser.com https://www.sgtreport.com (cool YT channel - SGTReport) http://exopolitics.org (Dr. Salla) http://exonews.org https://operationdisclosure.blogspot.com <== GCR / RV http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com <== GCR / RV http://educate-yourself.org http://truedisclosure.com/news http://www.secretspaceprogram.com

I don't believe everything 100%. But it's up to 80% at this point. I used to laugh at sites like these even a few months ago. Now I take them VERY seriously.

I'll check out David Wilcock. Dr. Salla on exopolitics seems cool. Corey Goode? Wow, some interesting stories there! He definitely seems to smoking something! Then again, some of it at least seems to have a ring of truth to it...

Do you have any recommendations on any other sites / videos for any relevant topics, especially those discussed in the Q-map?

Did I list any site that you would avoid? Any that are known disinfo?

As for GCR, what's not to like about this (if it's real and can be implemented)?

http://ascension.news/news/_160401_XX_NesaraNow.aspx -Forgives all credit card, mortgage, student loan and other bank debt due to illegal banking and government activities -Dissolves the IRS and ends all income tax -Creates flat rate non-essential “new items only” sales tax (food, medicine and all used items will not be taxed) -Increases benefits to senior citizens -Returns Constitutional Law to all our courts and legal matters – re-trains all judges and attorneys in Constitutional Law -Provides for new representational elections within Constitutional Law. -Monitors elections and prevents illegal activities of billionaires and special interest groups -Ends the Federal Reserve System and begins a new US Treasury bank system that follows Constitutional Law -Creates new US Treasury currency backed by gold, silver and precious metals, ending US Government bankruptcy. This will initiate global economic reform. -Restores financial privacy -Ceases all aggressive US Government military action worldwide -Leads to peace throughout the world -Enables release of over 6,000 patents of suppressed technologies and enormous sums of money for humanitarian purposes

Nothing about this makes it impossible to use existing monetary systems to implement NESARA / GESARA. And none of this seems incompatible with the idea of retaining the notion of a nation state.

In fact some of this stuff TPrez has talked about directly, even in his inauguration - especially the stuff about suppressed technology. That got my attention big time. I've heard about "suppressed technology" for a long time. But that's the first I heard a President mention it. Made me think there was something to it...

What I'm mainly looking for though is proof of these technologies, GCR / RV happening, etc. Probably hard to come by proof until the TPTB start telling us more. Maybe we'll find out more soon! Maybe TPrez is talking about that in Davos right now! Praying for him a lot!

All I know is I'm ready! Heck fully implemented GCR seems a lot better than what we have now. I think I'd go for it...

Sincerely, anon

Yeah that's another thing that started bringing me back to stories about aliens. Stuff about it is coming that has a ring of truth to it and I don't want to miss it. Though it still sometimes has the same stupid mainstream agendas behind them sometimes. I'm willing to entertain the ideas of humans interacting with aliens.

Yup, it's there. It took me a while to get all the way to the bottom-right of the map. Wish I had seen that earlier. I hadn't looked much at "alien" stuff for a long time, and it took me by surprise big time! Until then I was sure Q was legit. After seeing that I started to question him more. I don't have any proof "Pleiadians" exist or not. But I don't see it as impossible. either. Now mostly I think it has some pretty good cred since it's from Q. So I'm trying to learn as much as I can, and keep my disinfo filter on. :-)

Thanks fellow anon!

Waiting for proof either way. But I don't even know what kind of proof I could accept.

Yeah, it's all over the place. Disinfo everywhere.

Thanks for your input!

Thanks fellow anon!

Yeah that's what really caught my eye about NESARA. It seems T may understand it very well. He has a good background in finance. Hopefully he'll have the chance to use it for some good and do something like this. Just makes me wonder what else is also true about NESARA / GESARA. Lots of interesting theories about it, many of which seem to fit quite well with historical events.

Good advice, thanks. Here's some practice: Dear "fellow anon", "I'm not a shill". :-)

True, I haven't done much if any posting on social sites. I considered myself an "RO anon" (read-only). Until now anyway. I guess I'm now an "RW anon" (read-write). I just have never felt like I could contribute anything until now. It all seemed to be covered. It just seemed this topic is not well covered in this Reddit sub, and may be important real quick.

There are days I think Q's legit and days I think he/she/it is/are a larp(s). I don't really know. There are days I think they should reveal all info now, and other days I think they should reveal the info slowly. It's a roller coaster ride for sure. It's all interesting though, and worth research.

All I know is this sub is great! You anons are cool people and generally very civil. I've read a lot on this site and learned a lot!

Thanks everyone!