Thanks VA, I appreciate your welcome and am having fun just finding relations, I hope to solve this puzzle but I'm satisfied with what I learn here everyday.
I'm working in kind of a backwards way going column wise and row wise on the grid, and I've only been getting into the +ve side of it. I'll post what I have as soon as I finish typing it in text format, currently working on paper as I'm more used to that.
Any finding that I think would help you guys out in any way I would post, don't worry about that.