Anonymous ID: edb3e0 July 28, 2019, 9:03 p.m. No.9953   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9955

>>9952

That's a good idea. I was looking at some polynomials they use for the GNFS and it dawned on me just how useful it is to represent c as a sum of powers. So when you factor d and e, it's meant to decompose the dd+e equation into (factors of dd) + (factors of e).

Anonymous ID: edb3e0 July 28, 2019, 9:07 p.m. No.9954   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9955

And decomposing dd+e further into squares is definitely leading towards calculating the i^2 - j^2 equation.

 

I believe we're making a lot of progress.

Anonymous ID: edb3e0 July 28, 2019, 9:49 p.m. No.9957   🗄️.is 🔗kun

I see a pattern in them and I'm not crazy. Something that scales with c in a way that's hidden from the algebra.

 

Chris said the remainder tree resembles the solution. Decomposing values into powers of 2 and triangles resemble the remainder tree. And if all 3 of those can solve, it must be something they all share that makes them able to do that. Plus, you can probably use a simple equation to transform each term of each sequence into the other. The grid has those sequences.

 

Maybe it's just something obvious, like if you make everything tiny then that makes the search space tiny too.

Anonymous ID: edb3e0 July 28, 2019, 9:51 p.m. No.9958   🗄️.is 🔗kun

That's what I tried to do with the infinite triangle sequences. If you remember, the end result was a number that would get pretty close to (X-x)/2 of c for some reason.

Anonymous ID: edb3e0 July 28, 2019, 9:53 p.m. No.9959   🗄️.is 🔗kun

It was easy to make the search space small enough to count on one hand, but you had to be able to traverse back up the remainders.

 

Maybe there's something that can tell us what the next remainder is

Anonymous ID: edb3e0 July 29, 2019, 1:02 a.m. No.9960   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Perhaps if we can create like a phantom c that is easy to factor but also has a self-similarity to the large one? Seems like a way to check an answer

Anonymous ID: edb3e0 July 30, 2019, 11:12 p.m. No.9980   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>9977

Which can also be thought of as different stops.

 

>>9979

Excellent work. Miller Rabin would probably be greatly enhanced by beiing put into the grid.

Anonymous ID: edb3e0 July 31, 2019, 2:06 p.m. No.9990   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0005 >>0006

>>9989

I think an overarching theme here is you can use a variety of estimates if you're actively making them relate themselves to c.

 

Kind of like the original tree being a "big picture" estimate program and the tree cells being a more "zoomed in" version since they use more information from the grid.

Anonymous ID: edb3e0 Aug. 1, 2019, 6:59 a.m. No.10035   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0037

Seems to me there is a reason n0 and the f mod stuff were given as "from arbitrary guesses" ie, differing guesses can still be adjusted to reach the factorization.

Anonymous ID: edb3e0 Aug. 1, 2019, 7:25 a.m. No.10041   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0042

>>10039

>>10040

 

Indeed, the remainder tree, this triangle estimation stuff, the "intercept course" post, and the new square estimation posts are all saying the same thing in different ways.

Anonymous ID: edb3e0 Aug. 2, 2019, 11:55 p.m. No.10055   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Here's a sample ECC key on curve nistp192. I threw away the private key.

(3869035562762729475071350689725296476315431951714456492369, 5721900778986487358975428077347210421279593804122562127173)

Anonymous ID: edb3e0 Aug. 3, 2019, 12:05 a.m. No.10056   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Efficient factoring instantly breaks discrete logs, though. So it'll be two ivory towers falling at once.

 

Discrete logs are just factoring but with the same factor to some power.

Anonymous ID: edb3e0 Aug. 4, 2019, 11:15 a.m. No.10077   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Didn't realize I'd have to bake this soon. Gives me a chance to fix the codebase. I am feeling the acceleration.

Anonymous ID: edb3e0 Aug. 4, 2019, 1:39 p.m. No.10080   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0082

I have said these things to you in figures of speech. The hour when I will no longer speak to you in figures of speech but will tell you plainly about the Father is now.

 

I and the Father are one. No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.