to strive for the perfect bake
perfect composition
perfect timing
perfect snipe
all good bakers try
but circumstances often prevent it
it is a learning process
it is very much an ongoing learning process
my 2¢
>dealing with "failure."
Quads of truth
"the cowboy way teaches us that you never fail as long as you get up, dust yourself off and get back on that horse"
growing thicker skin
learning discernment
learning editorial composition
it is a wonderful task with marvelous results
BAKING
kek, the first baking class threads had the word
<filler
and I thought to myself that instead of just a plain copy of the classic Qresearch dough these classes should have something slightly different, only slightly because the main form and wording fits here as well as links with out purpose of providing breads
kek
yes… it's everywhere
complete it and you'll have a new URL at the top and that's your new dough
if you are referring to the time 8bit was convinced to police the kitchen?
give checkmarks to anons who had baked before?
it sure seemed to me like that whole period was orchestrated
not entirely sure 8bit was in on it as it truly seems he had a group of subversive BVs that caused grief over the long term culminating in 8bit's giving FastJack control of the board due to exhaustion from attempting to herd catz while working with subversives as his lieutenants
8bit's wisdom is evident in the early structure of the board and his creation of QRB as a backup
>But still–this could never have happened if there had been better /comms/ between bakers and anons
I place the blame for that on the subversive group using the "baker's union" meme
those tactics have stopped discussion here
which could have helped in the BO - BAKERS - ANONS conversations
I'm saying this to help warn against those tactics in the future as remnants of that group are still around
Those tactics may emerge again if this baking school becomes too successful in allowing said communications
I've been watching, and I love the influx of new bakers
here goes
nearly two years ago as the qresearch board was still changing and forming into what you see now there was a debate about baking
specifically who could bake
we had bakers who either thru incompetence or malice would fuck it up
some would fuck up the dough in not so obvious ways
accusations and counter accusations
during this time a few anons suggested ways to provide ways for the regular bakers to verify which baker they were, so they and the anons could know who baked what
it's why trips are allowed and encouraged here
8bit the BO at the time compromised to satisfy both the no ID and positive ID factions by posting a checkmark by prospective bakers who had baked before, not which baker they were or if they had made numerous 'mistakes' in the past but just if they had baked before or not.
Bakers would request hand off and those anons who replied would be vetted by BO or a BV with a checkmark showing they had baked before, those who had never baked were not often allowed to bake but it did happen occasionally
the whole "baker's union" concept is that a group of bakers would take over the kitchen and not allow any outside the group to bake and thus subvert the bread to fit their agenda not Q's
this hypothetical union would use minecraft or discord to communicate on a sub chanel to coordinate their activities, would use anonymity to appear as 'new bakers' and thus excuse some of the subversion via 'mistakes'
by using this boogey-man of a "baker's union" the whole idea of bakers and anons being able to verify which one was which went out the window
you've heard bits of this theory from rainman
namefaging for authority is not well looked upon in this free speech forum because many times it leads to famefagin
that being said there are occasions where the positive verification of authorship is relevant and baking seems to me to be one of those situations
the way this whole baking thing has evolved has led to this loose confederation of anons interested in baking and helping other anons learn the mechanical techniques and the mental principles involved
and here, we are using labels to ID each other and help keep conversations that span threads clear
I'm just trying to warn against possible tactics that might be used against any type of baker organization
maybe I'm paranoid, maybe it's prudent, only time will tell
but here on /comms/ all are welcome to create a secure tripcode and use the name function to verify their authorship
because sometimes it is reassuring to know that you are communicating with the same anon today that you were communicating with in the past
that captures that bit of history fairly well, we know a bit of 8bit's side due his posting on QRB, but FJ is still opaque on the subject.
that's just it, there never was a "bakers union" just the boogey man
I think it's highly probable that there was a group of anons and possibly a baker or tow that included at least one BV that acted in a subversive fashion, but I cannot prove it and it's all past history…
but we should learn from our history
the thing about notables
IF it's truly notable it will resurface in a natural way
some notables do anyway, that is the event happens, is notabled, a few days / weeks later something relevnt to that event happens or details change or are confirmed and then it's a notable again.
I personally think you're doing fine with notables, it's good to have a little change and different viewpoints.
so…
nil illegitimi carborundum
don't let the bastards grind you down
it just occurred to me
there is one other baker I know of that still bakes from time to time who has been here since the beginning
RealGenius always used an avatar from the movie
you might ask him sometime if you're collecting history
kek, love the 'lotsa'
fun is good
when it irritates shills that's just even better
and FJ is doing OK in my book, he does actually keep up, an hour or more at least once a day without much help
been watching the qresearch board logs
https://sys.8kun.top/log.php?board=qresearch
and leafy…
ya, that's been a sad story
as a BV leafy / AFLB (Anti Fungal Leaf Bread) could see a bit more than anons can, but not much really
you don't get to see the actual IP (safety feature built in to platform) you see an IP hash that does not change unless the actual IP of the anon does, it's constant from bread to bread day to day
AFLB was seeing attacks from similar IPs, block groups etc…
no doubt it was from VPNs but paranoia fed upon itself and AFLB went ban hammer happy and banned huge numbers of IPs thinking it was government groups that had blocks of IPs
some of them were shills
most were not
I was banned mid bake in early Feb 2018 and made this board during my 3 day vacation. I have to go thru extra steps to change my IP so I don't
the uproar over the ban hammer fest and some real shilling drove AFLB to extremes and 8bit took his keys away… I think that may have been what broke the camel's back so to speak as leafy has never been the same.
I think leafy baked in the early days of 4ch and during the migration, may have been mixed up in the cause… not sure
has long used "moldy" as a pejorative and was probably the 1st to use it, it's come into common use and now is not indicative of authorship
AFLB was a big part of the early days and had very, very strong opinions and that 'obsession' along with losing the BV position only HE could save the board from the menace really took it's toll
Scott Adams is no fool
good to see you
I agree that FJ is doing a much better job now
getting a reprimand from the top dog does that
I always wondered if you were the victim of a 5th column, after the fact I see quite clearly you were
>we just gotta keeping working on good comms
>much of it based on temporary misunderstandings
>try to avoid getting triggered by every little thing, either from anons/shills or bakers
excellent advice
you weren't paying enough attention
multiple anons tried to let you know
>>>/qresearch/8662872
>>>/qresearch/8662680
>>>/qresearch/8662736
>>>/qresearch/8662786
>he finally verifies that it is him
I posted
>>>/qresearch/8663092
>>>/qresearch/8663051
>check yer links again
>04e09a
>vs
>the baker
>9fa276
>>>/qresearch/8662872
>>>/qresearch/8662431
you jumped the gun anon
no worries
double breads happen
>I don't think verifying who was actually baking and setting pastebins to private which would have seriously fucked everyone with the condition the board was in(lag) was to much to ask for.
I hear your concern
but I ask you
other than you being alarmed at the paste being private what major bread errors were committed omitted notables can always be added in a later bread that would necessitate pirating the bread? you din't get a handy and baker was clearly present
why was it so important for you to know if that was Doc or an impostor? IF no bad bread had occurred why does it matter who bakes?
I'm all for accountability
I love it when bakers use an account to sign the dough
but not all bakers feel that way
and sometimes mistakes happen
IF that baker had set the dough to private and NOT posted an unlocked version THEN ghosted… you'd be perfectly justified in doing what you did
How many of those conditions were met and how many weren't?
MANY anons cautioned you to slow down and check yerself… you seemed a tad overzealous
AND a few egged you on
who's to say what was what and who was who in an anonymous underwater basket weaving forum
> I erred on the side of the board
yes you did
nothing major
but the ammunition you gave to "clown bakers in the kitchen" bullshit must be counted in the damage
>over some non existing bakers code.
ah… now that's where we differ anon
a legit baker waits for the handoff even from a known bad baker
2 reasons
a. it's just good form
b. it gives the culprit a bit more rope to form a proper noose
Once a baker bakes a nasty moldy rotten loaf you are justified in baking a second proper bread to feed the masses
until then…
mistakes happen
IF you can prove that it's more than mistakes then you've got an advocate here, otherwise I'll call you out when I see errors
AFLB fell off the edge thinking it could save the world by eliminating shills from qresearch
ended up delusional, seriously delusional
Fellow anons and bakers since we are gathered and class is going slow shall we consider the question of Revision history?
>>9555 (cheKEKed)
pleasure to meet you
look forward to future conversatons
as for speed being a problem
I come from dial-up BBS days
started at 4800baud
I don't bake these days because I cannot keep up, not due to link speed but my machine is ancient
64 bit dual core so old it came with XP64, doesn't have full modern 64bit instruction set and I run it as a 32bit linux box
so I feel ya on the technical issues
>and agreeing with rainman while I bake.
>using rainman talking points.
implying "rainman" has zero valid points
IF "rainman" claimed the sky was blue along with his other talking points would an anon who agreed the "the sky was blue" be a shill?
>Rusty doesn't wanna talk
some of us do sleep from time to time
7 1/2 hours is too long for you
your paranoia is showing
and it has little to do with taking any class or not
for example
what does the graphic you've posted mean?
naming the baker makes me
>one of the little bitches shilling along with Rainman,
your coarse statements add nothing to qresearch
you did see the 4 other posts that ID made in that thread didn't you?
>>>/qresearch/8680832
>>>/qresearch/8680916
>>>/qresearch/8680964
>>>/qresearch/8681236
>>>/qresearch/8681323
from #11115 https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/8680543.html
>No one was accusing Doc of anything,
the implications of your statements were loud and clear, shall I collect them?
I posted this
>the ammunition you gave to "clown bakers in the kitchen" bullshit must be counted in the damage
what is the burr under your saddle anon?
seems like you're just itching for a fight most of the time.
you are a good baker but you are not that fantastic a baker, you make mistakes, we all do
but what most bakers don't do is shit post and take obvious bait and sperg out
you sperging on Doc the other day still rankles
I've tried to let it go
but
>muh style
don't fly while baking
do it /qresearch/ style if you don't wanna catch shit from all corners
the consistency and continuity of theme and tone are major factors in the diggers being comfortable
why do you bake anyway?
social credits for your shitposting rants?
>the ammunition you gave to "clown bakers in the kitchen" bullshit must be counted in the damage
are you going to be an asset to the board or just an ass?
don't usually need to
most of the decent bakers announce themselves to the observant
please answer why it's such a big deal to you
do you not want anons to know who bakes?
do you not want certain anons to know you are baking?
what specifically is the problem here
so "rainman" is taunting you and causing you grief
I cannot help that my post was used in a graphic that upsets you
I'm not happy about it
but there isn't a damn thing I can do
it is after all a free speech zone
I'm seeing a texas shit load of innuendo and bullshit insinuations about a "bakers union" etc…
you do realize this is the shit I warned you about
>but the ammunition you gave to "clown bakers in the kitchen" bullshit must be counted in the damage
and it's only getting worse, you'll be the one to keep it going or stop it
vincit omnia veritas